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  • ^The bike aint 150cc, its 165cc. That extra cc alone give it a lot more torque and bhp. Then the power and the weight and finally the gearing tops it. A super bike is over 2.5 times heavier than my contraption .
    I would not wanna talk anymore, will let the figures talk for themselves. Thats all I care!
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    • well i happened to meet joel for the 1st time and 1 thing i can assure everyone is that he knows exactly wat he's talkin about, he's very passionate about building bikes

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      • Originally posted by road_ripper View Post
        I respect all your builds from bottom of my heart bro, seriously hats off to you, But i guess this post of you claiming under 4 secs to 100 is highly highly optimistic and even if its a drag build it cannot be achieved.
        Even a stock R1 & R6 takes close to 3.5 to 3.7 secs to 100 with a good rider which belts out more than 1000bhp/ tonne and here we are talking about a 165cc setup, even if it weighs as low as 45-50 kgs the under 4 secs kinda sounds IMPOSSIBLE... I'd love to be proven wrong but....
        NO offense but read carefully, it say that its his target which he hasnt achieved yet but would want to, so why not hold our horses and wait for the final test.

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        • Originally posted by Joel View Post
          Well, to understand that you really need to start strapping a v-box on drag machines.
          Drag machines are not built like a street stock machine and they have a revised gearing unlike any road going bike. What if I tell you drag bikes, our puny 2-strokes are already doing 3-3.5secs to 100kph? I'm talking about indian RDs and the factory shaolin. Get ur facts right and then we'll speak.
          An R1 is a street stock machine from factory and is not geared to be a drag machine. I'm targetting 4 secs to 100kph and it will be the first 4-stroke in the country to crack into this territory.
          A drag bike is geared really tall in the first 2 gears. Basically u end up shifting only once to get to over 100kph. The other 3 gears are closely spaced to just do the task of carrying over the momentum.
          There are 12 secs bikes in the country which are already doing some insane timings. You might wanna visit atleast once recent race.
          I'm currently doing under 6 secs (dont wanna specify the time for obvious reasons) and I have a few more things to do before I crack into 5 sec flat in 3 weeks.
          There is a lot to tuning an engine and building a race bike, than mere logics from other stock counterparts. Remember this is a purpose built bike. A stock superbike is more lavish on its purpose.
          In the 80s, the turbo charged WRC cars were as fast as the F1 cars of those days. They were doing 2.5secs to 100kph on gravel. With a limited top-speed of around 250kph. Does that mean, the F1 car was making lesser power? Thats coz the rally cars were geared as such.
          You can build a bike which does 100kph in 3 secs with a 40bhp motor. Wanna know how? = Gearing!
          Chilll buddy, I didnt mean to offend you, I know what you are capable of.. so no need to explain till core..
          All the very best to the South Indian Burt Munro..
          Please do call me if you take your machine for a run!!
          Cheers!!
          Fun Starts at Redline!!!

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          • Joel

            This is Sriram from Chennai. I have 1997 model RX135. currently having crankshaft noise and one of ASC inchennai said it is problem with crankshaft and bore/piston needs to be changed. Since most of the ASC here are new, they dont have any experience people to service. Currently giving general ser. ro Castrol Bike Zone. Pls. let me know if you have any idea abt. good local mech. specialisingin Yamaha or likewise. You may alternately email me @ [email protected]

            Request your urgent intervention in sorting this out,


            Thanks
            Sriram

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            • Originally posted by road_ripper View Post
              Chilll buddy, I didnt mean to offend you, I know what you are capable of.. so no need to explain till core..
              All the very best to the South Indian Burt Munro..
              Please do call me if you take your machine for a run!!
              Cheers!!
              what a change in opinion! I aint any Munro and I sure wanna prove your "Impossible" term sometime. I dont know whats your trip on all this though!
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              • Originally posted by Joel View Post
                what a change in opinion! I aint any Munro and I sure wanna prove your "Impossible" term sometime. I dont know whats your trip on all this though!
                My opinion hasnt changed still , I still think even if its in an outright drag avtaar a 165cc naturally aspirated 4 Stroke with 2 valves cant do under 4 secs to 100 no matter how much u play around with the gearing.. I was encouraging your sincere efforts you put into all your machines with such a dedication. So even if your machine does an under 5 secs to 100 i'll be a happy man to see that.
                As you said, lets the machine do the talking and I dont want to comment anything till then. All the best!!

                P.S : I just got to ride a bike last week with P220 engine in a p150 chassis with extreme performance tuning and mods done.. It was just going bonkers and was doing 100 in approx 250 - 300 mts and within a km was doing more than 144 speedo read.
                Have u still not considered any pulsar for some radical changes??
                Fun Starts at Redline!!!

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                • Originally posted by road_ripper View Post
                  My opinion hasnt changed still , I still think even if its in an outright drag avtaar a 165cc naturally aspirated 4 Stroke with 2 valves cant do under 4 secs to 100 no matter how much u play around with the gearing..
                  Again, why assume dude. When did I say, it will be 2-valves only?
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                  • Hmmm so much talking? Joel has a First in more things than one can ever imagine. He has nothing to prove to anybody here. And from what I know of him, he does not commit on something till he has given it a thought and knows what the workflow would be to achieve it.

                    All the best Joel.
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                    **Work to Ride and Ride to Work**

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                    • Joel, What about the tyres.Anything special?

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                      • Originally posted by Joel View Post
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                        This is atleast fine, its a 4-valve engine. What is mighty impressive is my 164cc Fiero which runs a 2-valve set-up, stock CDI and standard CV carb and as per my most recent tests does 0-100kph in under 6 secs and does a 400mtrs dash in 14.28secs @ 145kph.
                        Originally posted by Joel View Post
                        Again, why assume dude. When did I say, it will be 2-valves only?
                        Now, Am i assuming something???
                        You didnt mention in that under 4 secs post that * Specs are subject to change without notice
                        Fun Starts at Redline!!!

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                        • Originally posted by road_ripper View Post
                          Now, Am i assuming something???
                          You didnt mention in that under 4 secs post that * Specs are subject to change without notice
                          On going mod are always subject to change ... i thought that was given.
                          My thoughts are subjected to personal experiences/internet articles. Please read my comment carefully before replying. :)

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                          • can you work on 220dtsi to make it go faster quicker too??
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                            • Originally posted by road_ripper View Post
                              Now, Am i assuming something???
                              You didnt mention in that under 4 secs post that * Specs are subject to change without notice
                              No specs remain concrete in my case, they change even overnight. I am in the business of racing and I ought to keep things privy. Most of the matters cannot be disclosed over the forum. This aint some sunday DIY build. I have my reasons to prove, publish and achieve. Take it or leave it.
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                              • joel bhaiyya joel bhaiyya meri bi R15 aap ke tarah banao na paleezzzzzz
                                Sinfully sexy, Shamlessly raw, Explicitly Powerful. I'm Da Legend

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