Better wait till 15,000 KMS.

Hey everybody,

I don't intend to disregard the personal experiences of fellow bikers here, but then I can't help wondering how this stuff i.e. Nulon which is basically PTFE do good to the engine.

The reasons for my query are that the compound in question (PTFE) is inert, has no dipole-dipole forces & has a stated melting point of approximately 327 degrees Celsius, although it has been said to start degrading well below it. Now with such properties, I do not think that it can bond with the metal in an internal combustion engine with the environment that prevails there. From what it looks, this substance just happily floats in the oil before being filtered out by the oil filter & ending up blocking it. Even if it is fine enough to be not trapped by the filter, it is after all a fine solid suspended in the oil & this is not good news. Plus PTFE is known to be mechanically weak, & hence I am almost convinced that its low Coefficient of Friction (COE) takes a back seat during high speed or high load application.

Guys, I might be wrong, but then wanted to share this as I have also been inclined towards this product in the past but then it looks more trouble than benefit.

Please share your thoughts on the above query.

Happy & safe riding,
Prakhar

I think I should not use anything doubtful in the precious engine of my bike. I am not going for any experiment with the engine. But I am already using it for last 700kms. The engine is butter smooth....... but I doubt
I am going to drain it tomorrow.

used it on 220dtsi....no change...maybe my engine became more noisy after that...

Nulon - Yes or No??

This Product is good if U R Using a mineral oil.
It makes it like a Semi-synthetic oil.
Semi-synthetic is Mineral with some Synthetic substances added.

Some Calculations -

Nulon Option -
Mineral oil for 250/- with drain periods of 2500km.
Nulon 100/- with replacement at 15000km.
Total Cost for Lubrication for 15000km -
(250x6) + (100x1) = 1600/-
Noticeable difference in the engine over normal mineral oil.

Semi-synthetic option -
Oil for 375/- with drain period of 2500km.
Total Cost for Lubrication for 15000km -
375x6 = 2250/-
U can add Nulon if U wish but U'll not notice major difference here.
The Oil already consists of the additives.

Fully Synthetic option -
Oil for 800/- with drain period of 5000km.
Total Cost for Lubrication for 15000km -
800x3 = 2400/-
There is no need to add Nulon or any additive here as this already has all the additives.

If U see the Maths here it makes sense if U use nulon + Mineral oil as it is cost effective than a semi-synthetic.
However its not as good as a semi-synthetic.

*Prices of oils & quantities are averages.

thanks for the calculation man...but costing is not that important, the important thing is which bike require this treatment...??

@prabhakar - there is a difference between the additives and nulon. Nulon supposedly protects the metal surface by giving it a mild hardening. The additives reduce friction, remove deposits and carbon, etc etc.

@scilent - I have seen nulon work on BUllet, which is a loose tolerance engine, but it should work on HH and pulsar etc as well.

@ JD666

If its Scientifically proved & if V have any user with Noticeable Difference in a newgeneration Bike then I'm ready to use it.
I really like to protect the engine.

I know Nulon as an synthetic Engine oil additive.
SO made those calculations.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

^^ i dont have any scientific proof, though i know that it worked very well on my bike!!

It is true that additives do provide extra-protection to the engine & it is proved also. I am using bardahl on my classic pulsar 150 and there is 100% improvement in the feel of the bike, the vibrations are nill, bike rev's freely upto red line. It has clocked 40000kms and i am using additive from 17000kms.

But, one should only start using additives after 15000kms, because with new engine you would never feel a huge difference.

On which Bike??
What Difference??

All this questions may make me a user of this.

my 5 year old bullet, done nearly 70,000 kms. ( Its an AVL thunderbird, ), still running original cams and rockers. I use nulon every 6-10k kms and even put it directly on the cams and rockers.

No issues till date, the cams are in great shape, and i rev the bike like mad when i ride!

Totally agreed to that....

When I read about Nulon in this thread... I straight away decided to go for but some of my office collegue said otherwise. But I still decided to go for it and believe me... the changes have been quite pleasing for my Pulsar 200. Just imagine... in this freakin winter, I thumb the starter of the bike after 5 days of straight halt and BANG she's alive without showing any signs of hitch.... she's straight away ready to take the road by storm (even though I properly warmed her up before revving her up!!)

I've also used Nulon on my friend's P150 and really he got a pleasent surprise. Currently I'm waiting for my elder brothers, HH CD Dawn to get serviced and I would be using Nulon on that too... and I'm really vey excited to see the effects.

^^ do it.. it will help prolong the life of the engine!! chalo someone else also agrees... loL!!

Nulon Works Wonder for 2 strokers too!!!

I have used Nulon on my 2 strokers too! & It works wonders the usual Knocking of the Piston fades away!!!! the difference is that the Nulon has to be added in the Petrol Tank of 2 Strokers & Not in the engine as of 4 strokers, be sure theres atleast 3 to 4 litres of petrol in the tank, the bike has run atleast 5 kms before adding that to petrol & yes after you have added Nulon to Petrol, beleive me U can twitch the Full throttle on your bike without the worry of seizing it till that Nulon mixed petrol lasts!!!!

Costs 110-120 Bucks in Mumbai.

It helps too if u add a few drops of Nulon directly in ur Carbs.