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Originally posted by Shanz
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would that cause overheating ?
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when i'm riding on a empty straight road at around 50 and i dont want to accelerate or apply brakes. if i only release the throttle then engine braking tends to slow down the bike(and make the bike feel rough), so i hold the clutch in 5th or 6th gear to keep engine free at idle rpm.
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Well, my friend, for sure that technique will not do any good to your engine, insted it will harm your clutch plate!Originally posted by thefalcon View Post
If you dont want to accelerate (i.e. increase speed) or apply brakes then just keep the throttle intact and keep it at the particular twist there, that will neither acclerate nor reduce ur speed..
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i tried not using the clutch too much and stuff.Originally posted by Shanz View Post
it works pretty well in higher gears (4,5,6).
but in slow moving traffic(like when we have to go around 10-15 speed, 1st gear the noise isnt good and 2nd gear, even a little braking and engine tends to start jerking(if clutch isnt pressed). any suggestions on how to ride in these conditions ?
note: sorry if i sound like a noob. i'm new to geared bikes.
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Use half clutch..Originally posted by thefalcon View Post
And twist the throttle a lil bit so it can still be in rev range with enuf power in that gear and will not jump forward because of half clutch engaged!!
But try not not to use the half clutch for long.
Edit - If used extensivly, then It damages the clutch plate!
So do it only when its really worth doing it..Last edited by Shanz; 10-07-2009, 08:02 PM.Comment
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Half clutch?!Originally posted by Shanz View Post
Clutch is ment to be engaged or disengaged! The transition phase between the two is supposed to be ONLY that - for transition!! Keep it there and arrange for a clutch plate change sooner rather than later. 
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AFAIK, Half clutching damages the clutch plates.Originally posted by Raccoon View PostHalf clutch?! Clutch is ment to be engaged or disengaged! The transition phase between the two is supposed to be ONLY that - for transition!! Keep it there and arrange for a clutch plate change sooner rather than later.
Yes, it works pretty well in the higher gears, and it is normal for the bike to jerk or scream when this is practised in lower gears. But according to me, the ideal practice while driving in traffic (in 1st 2 gears) is to use clutch whenever the bike starts jerking(bcoz of slow speed during deceleration), and then again releasing the clutch simultaneously while revving the engine for accelerationOriginally posted by thefalcon View Posti tried not using the clutch too much and stuff.
it works pretty well in higher gears (4,5,6).
but in slow moving traffic(like when we have to go around 10-15 speed, 1st gear the noise isnt good and 2nd gear, even a little braking and engine tends to start jerking(if clutch isnt pressed). any suggestions on how to ride in these conditions ?
Just my 2 cents.From variable Bhps to a constant 17.6 Bhp.Comment
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Thats why I have written this in BOLD letters!Originally posted by Shanz View Post
And what I have suggested goes like this..
When ur bike jerks..
Engage the clutch by 70-80% (dont pull it totally) and keep reving the engine slightly so it can stay in proper RPM range to deliver optimum power..
When you press your clutch to 70-80% extent then it engages fully(remember full clutch engagment is must) but wastes much lesser time..
And Yes! it damages the clutch plate if used OVER EXTENSIVELY.
P.S.- I have tried all that, so dont tell me that It'll burn clutch plate the moment I do it or sumthing Similar..
ShanZLast edited by Shanz; 10-07-2009, 11:45 PM.Comment
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@thefalcon, this is a late response, but I am surprised to see the theory of engine cooling down when you use clutch. Please do yourself a big favor and go to neutral, or better still switch the engine off in case you want to cool it. You are inviting trouble in the long run when you apply clutch in higher gears extensively.
In stop go traffic, stick to 1st gear. Use clutch, exactly the way as shanz has mentioned before. I dont even bother to go to 2nd gear, until I can move on comfortably, ie. when I see space where a 2nd gear cruising can go.
In snail like traffic, I move over to neutral and use my legs (yep, I am pure Desi). Occasionally switching over to first gear. In my opinion, clutch should be used only for shifting gears, and in first gear, for slow traffic. Your engine would appreciate and thank your ride.
As a rule, the first thing I try to grasp in a bike is the revving range for different gears. Also, while moving downhill, always use the gear you would if you were to move uphill on that same road. Of course, without the clutch.
Ashok.Comment
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pushing the bike isnt really an option for meOriginally posted by ashokrajagopal View Post. gs150 weighs 149kg and you can really feel the weight while pushing.
and bangalore traffic can get irritating at 15-20km/h.
in 1st gear there's too much sound. 2nd gear is ok, but every 5 sec, have to reduce the speed to 5-10 also.
(only on few roads)
so far i've managaged to reduce clutch usage while riding in 3,4,5,6 gears. 1 n 2 seems really difficult
thanks a lot.Originally posted by fast_ferocious View PostAFAIK, Half clutching damages the clutch plates.
Yes, it works pretty well in the higher gears, and it is normal for the bike to jerk or scream when this is practised in lower gears. But according to me, the ideal practice while driving in traffic (in 1st 2 gears) is to use clutch whenever the bike starts jerking(bcoz of slow speed during deceleration), and then again releasing the clutch simultaneously while revving the engine for acceleration
Just my 2 cents.
by jerking i did not mean due to slow speeds. i meant the jerk when we leave the accelerator or accelerate (twist throttle from 0 position) without using clutch.
when i've not turned the throttle(normal cruising), somehow i dont feel jerks at 20km/h and 6th gear too. so i come to 3rd only when i have to start accelerating again.
changing 3 gears at a time isnt that bad is it ??
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Insted of coming three gears down..Originally posted by thefalcon View Postpushing the bike isnt really an option for me. gs150 weighs 149kg and you can really feel the weight while pushing.
and bangalore traffic can get irritating at 15-20km/h.
in 1st gear there's too much sound. 2nd gear is ok, but every 5 sec, have to reduce the speed to 5-10 also.
(only on few roads)
so far i've managaged to reduce clutch usage while riding in 3,4,5,6 gears. 1 n 2 seems really difficult
thanks a lot.
by jerking i did not mean due to slow speeds. i meant the jerk when we leave the accelerator or accelerate (twist throttle from 0 position) without using clutch.
when i've not turned the throttle(normal cruising), somehow i dont feel jerks at 20km/h and 6th gear too. so i come to 3rd only when i have to start accelerating again.
changing 3 gears at a time isnt that bad is it ??
Do this..
Press clutch..
Shift down One gear and
Rev the engine a bit while the keeping the clutch engaged then leave the clutch
And accelerate slowly!!
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[QUOTE=thefalcon;303418]"pushing the bike isnt really an option for me. gs150 weighs 149kg and you can really feel the weight while pushing.
and bangalore traffic can get irritating at 15-20km/h.
in 1st gear there's too much sound. 2nd gear is ok, but every 5 sec, have to reduce the speed to 5-10 also.
(only on few roads)
so far i've managaged to reduce clutch usage while riding in 3,4,5,6 gears. 1 n 2 seems really difficult"
I drive a Bullet 350 CI, definitely heavier than GS150.
And I drive in Hyderabad, so traffic isnt much different either. Don't picture a giant, I am around 70 Kg only, but somehow I manage to push with my legs.
Anyways, trying to reduce your clutch usage on the whole is good.Comment
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i used to do that.Originally posted by Shanz View Post
but then i heard low rpms are really bad for engine so i try not to keep it below 3k at any time.Comment
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[QUOTE=Shanz;303448]Insted of coming three gears down..
Do this..
Press clutch..
Shift down One gear and
Rev the engine a bit while the keeping the clutch engaged then leave the clutch
And accelerate slowly!!
thats the worst thing u can do to ur bike..i still cant imagine how u do that.. bike gives all sort of noises kad gad gad and then moves as if someone is pulling it from back with great difficulty...never do that it really puts a lot of dtress on ur engine..
wats wrong if u downshift 3 gears at once but make sure u release & depress clutch for each gearshift..
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Mr.Pradeep Reddy..Originally posted by pradeep reddy View Post
Please have some Sarcasm to go through the pages before you post anything!
Either you havent read my posts or you just hadnt gone through the thread.
I have clearly mentioned that if your bike knocks(khat khat,kad kad sound u mentioned) or Screams(overstrained engine) then whatewer you are doing, you are doing it in wrong way!! so please read before you post!
And when you pull the clutch then shift down a gear while reving the engine slightly so that it will stay in enuf power band to pull you easily without engine knocking and when you accelerate slowly then it meant that you have ensured that you arn't overstraining the engine and Hence no knocking sounds!!!
And if you do it properly, then I guarantee you, your engine Will not knock!!
Thankyou!
ShanzLast edited by Shanz; 10-10-2009, 08:42 AM.Comment
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