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  • #46
    Originally posted by Shanz View Post
    if your bike knocks(khat khat,kad kad sound u mentioned) or Screams(overstrained engine) then whatewer you are doing, you are doing it in wrong way!! so please read before you post!

    And when you pull the clutch then shift down a gear while reving the engine slightly so that it will stay stay in enuf power band to pull you easily without engine knocking and when you accelerate slowly then it meant that you have ensured not you are not overstraining the engine thus no knocking sounds!!!
    it works pretty well. thanks. though i did not try accelerating the way you mentioned in 5th gear. it was ok in 4th gear, 3rd gear was the easiest to learn.

    could you explain when exactly to rev while changing to lower gear.?
    it it just before releasing the clutch after downshifting ?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by thefalcon View Post
      could you explain when exactly to rev while changing to lower gear.?


      just before releasing the clutch after downshifting?
      Downshift, immedietly rev and release!
      Answer in underlined Bold!!

      Shanz

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      • #48
        use of clutch when going downhill..

        Ok firstly im not sure if this is the right place to post this..
        Secondly im an amatuer to riding bikes so this may sound a little silly..

        All i want to know is that if we use the clutch while riding downhill for a long period of time are the clutch plates affected?
        The ride from my college to my home has a stretch of 1km which is sloping downwards.So to conserve fuel i ride with clutch depressed.Does this harm my bike's clutch plate in anyway?Or is it ok to do so?
        If this style of riding is harmful then what is the approximate distance one can ride with the clutch depressed?

        PS:I own a FZ16 which is about 700kms old..
        Last edited by pali; 10-19-2009, 06:39 PM.
        signature not found..

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        • #49
          ^^ why dont u just shift to neutral , why engage clutch, using clutch like this will surely reduce spring life of clutch. so better turn of the bike during that time .. and u have self start too.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by pali View Post
            Ok firstly im not sure if this is the right place to post this..
            Secondly im an amatuer to riding bikes so this may sound a little silly..

            All i want to know is that if we use the clutch while riding downhill for a long period of time are the clutch plates affected?
            The ride from my college to my home has a stretch of 1km which is sloping downwards.So to conserve fuel i ride with clutch depressed.Does this harm my bike's clutch plate in anyway?Or is it ok to do so?
            If this style of riding is harmful then what is the approximate distance one can ride with the clutch depressed?

            PS:I own a FZ16 which is about 700kms old..
            Do not do this
            Ur ruining ur clutch and clutch plate!!!

            Instead..
            Either Just turn the key into off..and use self start to get the engine running on slopes end!
            Or
            Go down to neutral..
            But dont press the clutch for this long..

            Shanz

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            • #51
              Originally posted by pali View Post
              Ok firstly im not sure if this is the right place to post this..
              Secondly im an amatuer to riding bikes so this may sound a little silly..

              All i want to know is that if we use the clutch while riding downhill for a long period of time are the clutch plates affected?
              The ride from my college to my home has a stretch of 1km which is sloping downwards.So to conserve fuel i ride with clutch depressed.Does this harm my bike's clutch plate in anyway?Or is it ok to do so?
              If this style of riding is harmful then what is the approximate distance one can ride with the clutch depressed?

              PS:I own a FZ16 which is about 700kms old..

              never use your clutch while comin downhill, or switch off ur bike,
              instead keep it in fourth gear the RPM will hover around 3000-4000, and that way you'll be in speeds in ur control as you'll have the engine braking, and when you want you can immediately go down gears and gun ur machine when in need....

              dude frankly speaking how much of a petrol you'll save for that downhill stretch of 1km....
              The Magician"

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              • #52
                Always, always ride in gear when you are coming downhill. Closing the clutch would do all sorts of damage, long term and short term.
                Rule of thumb that I use, (and almost all people I know who had been riding for years) is to use the same gear as you would use to move up.

                A 1 km long stretch definitely would not require 1st gear, but a steeper slope would need you to go into first or second gear, rather than top gear, clutch pressed.

                You can go into neutral (it's harmless for the engine), but would nt it be harder to brake when you are in neutral ??
                Saving petrol, I think you would not save anything with the use of clutch, but I am not sure (technical explanations).

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by viv.nomad View Post
                  ^^ why dont u just shift to neutral ,
                  Originally posted by Shanz View Post
                  Do not do this
                  Go down to neutral..
                  But dont press the clutch for this long..

                  Shanz
                  Originally posted by ashokrajagopal View Post

                  You can go into neutral (it's harmless for the engine), but would nt it be harder to brake when you are in neutral ??
                  Saving petrol, I think you would not save anything with the use of clutch, but I am not sure (technical explanations).
                  thanks for the reply guys.. and yeah i did try shifting the gears into neutral but when i want to shift to a higher gear(for eg from neutral to second or even the first)after the downhill part of road ends and if my bike is still in motion(usually at around 25kmph or more) the gearbox makes a very loud noise(almost a 'thud') as if it is being shifted w/o the clutch being depressed..(i do use the clutch while changing the gears at that point of time!)
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by pali View Post
                    thanks for the reply guys.. and yeah i did try shifting the gears into neutral but when i want to shift to a higher gear(for eg from neutral to second or even the first)after the downhill part of road ends and if my bike is still in motion(usually at around 25kmph or more) the gearbox makes a very loud noise(almost a 'thud') as if it is being shifted w/o the clutch being depressed..(i do use the clutch while changing the gears at that point of time!)
                    Which bike you own?

                    THUD sound meant ur forcefully engaging the gear instead of freely shifting it!!

                    You can do the following if you want..

                    *get down to a lower gear but dont accelerate..just let the engine pull you!
                    Make sure ur engine dosnt knocks.

                    *after the end of slope, slow down to 10-20kmph and then shift to 2nd from neutral.
                    Make sure u dont shift to first at running speed.

                    *stay at 25kmph, rev the engine a bit in neutral so that the gear shift rotater attains as much speed as the engine shift rotator.[am missing the precise term names]
                    Then shift to second.. This shouldnt make the THUD noice. Because the 2nd gear will easily shift.

                    Shanz

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Shanz View Post
                      Which bike you own?

                      THUD sound meant ur forcefully engaging the gear instead of freely shifting it!!

                      You can do the following if you want..

                      *get down to a lower gear but dont accelerate..just let the engine pull you!
                      Make sure ur engine dosnt knocks.

                      *after the end of slope, slow down to 10-20kmph and then shift to 2nd from neutral.
                      Make sure u dont shift to first at running speed.

                      *stay at 25kmph, rev the engine a bit in neutral so that the gear shift rotater attains as much speed as the engine shift rotator.[am missing the precise term names]
                      Then shift to second.. This shouldnt make the THUD noice. Because the 2nd gear will easily shift.

                      Shanz
                      ^^ This will help in reducing the thud. But always ride in proper gear while riding downhill, else your brakes may fade dangerously.

                      OT: HH Street had centrifugal clutch. As rpm increases, clutch bite increases. So, you can never up shift at say 5k rpm! First release the throttle, let rpms drop, (max 2sec), then shift.
                      Last edited by abhijeet080808; 10-20-2009, 10:40 PM.
                      Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                        OT: HH Street had centrifugal clutch. As rpm increases, clutch bite increases. So, you can never up shift at say 5k rpm! First release the throttle, let rpms drop, (max 2sec), then shift.
                        Drop in speed + Drop in RPM Or just Drop in RPM?
                        I had rode the Street.,it was easy to ride.,and learn the shifting!
                        Though what I recollect brings me to the fact that Every time I shifted to lower or upper gear I had to leave the throttle a bit!!
                        AFAIK it has centrifugal clutch so ideally The clutch bite play rotator should run parallel with the engine bite at any given RPM irrespective of gears.
                        Isnt it.?
                        Then why decrease the RPMS?

                        Shanz

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Shanz View Post
                          Drop in speed + Drop in RPM Or just Drop in RPM?
                          I had rode the Street.,it was easy to ride.,and learn the shifting!
                          Though what I recollect brings me to the fact that Every time I shifted to lower or upper gear I had to leave the throttle a bit!!
                          AFAIK it has centrifugal clutch so ideally The clutch bite play rotator should run parallel with the engine bite at any given RPM irrespective of gears.
                          Isnt it.?
                          Then why decrease the RPMS?

                          Shanz
                          You have to leave the throttle just as you said, to drop the rpm a little to decrease this clutch bite.. this makes gear shift easier. Else it is like clutch-less shifting.

                          And at idle rpm, clutch bite is zero in any gear on this bike.
                          Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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