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**onlinesatish** · 12-10-2008, 12:50 AM

@killer

Awesome conoring bro!

in the second pic....it looks as if u were counter steering.....were u?

**chetanpulsar** · 12-10-2008, 01:16 AM

@Killer: Awesome man... its same like those MotoGP/WSBK guys riding .... really amazing... keep it up !!

**niranjanvaidya** · 12-10-2008, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by Technocrat View Post

There was this R15 rider who was leaning(body shifting with knees scraping the road) amazingly but after a few runs of his we figured he was going slower than me & my knee was hardly any close to the road.

This was the exact comment that I made to Nitro when we stopped for tea...
I do not remember passin you or seein you as I was too busy with my 220...being quite new and still in runnin in meant that I could not take corners at the speed that I usually do...

**Killer** · 12-10-2008, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post

@killer

Awesome conoring bro!

in the second pic....it looks as if u were counter steering.....were u?

Thanks, and yes if you want a bike to steer into a turn you have to countersteer, everyone does it, most people just dont realize they do it.

**Killer** · 12-10-2008, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post

This was the exact comment that I made to Nitro when we stopped for tea...

That was probably some beginner learning the technique. Initially a rider who tries hanging off will be slow because most of his attention is focussed on his body than anything else, however once a rider gains experience with the right body posture and provided he knows how to ride, he WILL be faster than the guy who sits plonk in the middle of his seat through a corner. Ofcourse, like i always say, be very careful while trying any of that on the road.

**Aparajith** · 12-10-2008, 11:44 AM

Killer:: *OUT OF WORDS* A bit more and I guess you would have scraped the frame sliders!!

**Technocrat** · 12-10-2008, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Killer View Post

That was probably some beginner learning the technique. Initially a rider who tries hanging off will be slow because most of his attention is focussed on his body than anything else, however once a rider gains experience with the right body posture and provided he knows how to ride, he WILL be faster than the guy who sits plonk in the middle of his seat through a corner. Ofcourse, like i always say, be very careful while trying any of that on the road.

Killer that chap was scraping knees at speed atleast 15 kph lesser than mine, I shifting body weight but hardly needed as hang as he was doing.

Also this was a wide curve on a level surface I really wonder how fast he would be with all that lean than some one who is not leaning as much

p.s. unable to see your images as its blocked in office

**Aryan** · 12-10-2008, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Technocrat View Post

p.s. unable to see your images as its blocked in office

@Techno: Can you see the images now?

**mithun.08** · 12-10-2008, 02:45 PM

@killer: awesome pics

**Killer** · 12-10-2008, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Technocrat View Post

Killer that chap was scraping knees at speed atleast 15 kph lesser than mine, I shifting body weight but hardly needed as hang as he was doing.

Also this was a wide curve on a level surface I really wonder how fast he would be with all that lean than some one who is not leaning as much

Yup i dont dispute that, it simply means that neither of you were travelling fast enough to benefit from hanging off the bike. Riders learning how to hang off tend to overdo it and exagerate their body position, ofcourse they generally arent travelling very fast while doing so. However top riding schools who teach the technique on the race track, encourage newbie riders to exagerate their body position so as to get used to it and then eventually build on speed. If you do not learn the technique early on, you will be fast up to a point and then going beyond that point will become a problem. At that point it will be even harder to unlearn the old habit and learn a new one.

**Aryan** · 12-10-2008, 03:04 PM

@Killer: I would love to know the correct toe position while hanging off the machine (leaning/cornering). Kindly post some information regarding the same, please.

**Killer** · 12-10-2008, 03:42 PM

^ There are various points on a bike that a rider uses to 'lock-on' so the speak while going through corner. The idea is to remove pressure from the handlebars while still managing to hang on to the bike and the legs and feet play a large role here. I mention this because it has a direct relation to how /where a rider places his feet. The rider should make a habit of riding with the the balls of his feet on the pegs, this is particularly for the inner foot. Some riders like to let the outer foot slide forward a bit and lock onto the outer footpeg with the step in the heel of the boot (rossi is a prime example). Other riders just leave both legs on the balls of their feet. The bottom line is the inner leg needs to be on the balls of the feet inorder to facilitate ground clearance. Another advantage is the foot is also in a neutral position this way and its easier to switch between upshifting and downshifting.

**Aryan** · 12-10-2008, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Killer View Post

^ There are various points on a bike that a rider uses to 'lock-on' so the speak while going through corner. The idea is to remove pressure from the handlebars while still managing to hang on to the bike and the legs and feet play a large role here. I mention this because it has a direct relation to how /where a rider places his feet. The rider should make a habit of riding with the the balls of his feet on the pegs, this is particularly for the inner foot. Some riders like to let the outer foot slide forward a bit and lock onto the outer footpeg with the step in the heel of the boot (rossi is a prime example). Other riders just leave both legs on the balls of their feet. The bottom line is the inner leg needs to be on the balls of the feet inorder to facilitate ground clearance. Another advantage is the foot is also in a neutral position this way and its easier to switch between upshifting and downshifting.

So, basically while we corner, the weight should be distributed more on the legs/thigh section rather than onto the handle-bar, is it?

**Killer** · 12-10-2008, 04:28 PM

Yes, most of it.

**Aryan** · 12-10-2008, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Killer View Post

Yes, most of it.

Thanks!

Glad that I generally do it the right way, provided I get to "corner" here, in Delhi!

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