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  • emm
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    Tips and tricks to tackle corners effectively and safely

    Hi all,

    I have been more of a tourer right from the beginning. Let it be a driving or riding. Its been around 10 years since i started riding and have enjoyed every bit of the time feeling the air in your face through the open gap of helmet like a dog with its face outside the car window.

    Most of the tourings that i have done on 2 wheels is on plains and all the tours that i have done on hills have been on 4 wheels. So, I have never been a corner craver nor there have been any incidents for testing my cornering skills. But recently it changed.

    Two months ago, I had taken a trip to Yercaud from chennai on HH CBZ Xtreme. This was the first time i am going to a hill station on 2 wheels. The ride from chennai to salem was as usual with stretches of wonderfully laid roads with me crusing at 80-90 having a relaxing time. But as i started climbing the roads to yercaud from salem, I started enjoying the curves like never before. I know the curves on the way are not as legendary as many other places. Since it was my first ride on curves i had an amazing time. I had found a new ecstasy when bending the bike and going around corners, which has opened a zeal to learn a new style of riding.

    Ever since i have been back from the trip, I have been trying to learn how to tackle corners. I would like to get tips and learn from experts on handing the ride through corners. I have searched the forum for a thread which will give tips on how to tips to corner more effective and safely, with no luck. I had come across few discussion as in, there is an entry speed and exit speed, but it has been deeply explained. May be i have not been searching properly.

    So, I have started a thread for discussions on cornering, so that, guys like me can try and harness new side of riding and open a new potential which might not have been tested.

    Note to Mods: I didn't know which section this belongs to. If it doesn't belong here, I request you to move it accordingly.

    Cheers
    emm

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  • itsmevini123
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    Re: Bending and LeaningThread

    Understood lot, very informative thread

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  • sp33dfr33k
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    Re: Bending and LeaningThread

    Having gone thru this thread and lapping up advice by all the pros...all i can say is WOW i have a lot to learn and experiment on....thanks to this full blooded discussion I have now understood so many dynamics of biking guys...

    Helmet's off to all of You

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  • Raneet
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    ok, i almost read the entire thread and learnt quite a few things theoritically, but to practice them practically, i would need to remove the main stand in my ride.

    However, had a question.

    Anybody tried power-slide (anti-steering)?? any inputs on those??

    i have tried cornering several times and i guess most of the time i did it right (after reading the mentioned procedures which matches mine to a good extent) but have never tried power-slide.

    Inputs awaited.

    Thanks in advance.

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  • REAPER
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    Originally posted by kedar3223 View Post
    guys i can corner fine... but can anyone tell me how to over come the fear of unexpected things around the corner. im mean cars coming from opposite direction, animals running off the road, bad road patch. how can this be avoided. also when i lean my bike i find it quite difficult to make mid corner corrections. have had many a close shaves.


    suppose the road in this case was narrower, the bend was tighter such that i wouldn't see the car before im committed to the corner what is the correct braking technique to be used
    Better safe than sorry, i myself am a cornering junkie but ,i only try cornering on bends which i am familiar with, and have a clear view of oncoming traffic (if any, but dont try cornering on any busy places). Forget about mid corner correction and shifting weight etc.. Just know this, one stupid scorpio in middle of cornering BAM!! And U are ketchup..

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  • nin
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    ^^+1 to that...in such cases shifting back weight,braking,lowering gears all without losing traction and balance is all in all a tedious yet a skillful task....mastering it needs practice and good luck ! only a few can do it successfully and come out safe !

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  • kartikpai
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    Originally posted by kedar3223 View Post
    guys i can corner fine... but can anyone tell me how to over come the fear of unexpected things around the corner. im mean cars coming from opposite direction, animals running off the road, bad road patch. how can this be avoided. also when i lean my bike i find it quite difficult to make mid corner corrections. have had many a close shaves.


    suppose the road in this case was narrower, the bend was tighter such that i wouldn't see the car before im committed to the corner what is the correct braking technique to be used
    Well I am not much of a cornering person . But my best bet would be to avoid cornering on corners where you can encounter such surprises. Some times, for getting rid of your fear you need to face it . But face it responsibly. When you are cornering , you will have a split second to straighten your machine and take a detour to avoid an obstacle . But trust me , we humans are not accurate to a split second all the times.So best thing is to avoid corners when you doubt an obstacle.

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  • kedar3223
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    guys i can corner fine... but can anyone tell me how to over come the fear of unexpected things around the corner. im mean cars coming from opposite direction, animals running off the road, bad road patch. how can this be avoided. also when i lean my bike i find it quite difficult to make mid corner corrections. have had many a close shaves.


    suppose the road in this case was narrower, the bend was tighter such that i wouldn't see the car before im committed to the corner what is the correct braking technique to be used
    Last edited by kedar3223; 02-21-2011, 10:35 AM.

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  • csgup1
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    They are all very very common issues. Were they posted up after you did the CSS??

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  • TenHut
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    Have you all gurus experienced this frustrating phase ?

    One of the fun challenges of riding on the track is learning to focus amidst

    1. Am I carrying the right corner entry speed ?
    1.1 Am I carrying the right speed is a direct result of have you braked right? To be able to brake right you need to hit the proper braking markers. It has happened to me countless no of times where I have braked and released the brake lever only to be surged ahead unexpectedly as I had not brushed off enough speed. Seeing myself unexpectedly surged ahead right when I needed to turn in a corner fooked my corner right then and there.

    2. At what rate should I turn in ?
    2.1 At what rate should I turn in is something that comes with experience I guess. But it will most certainly depend on the turning point that you have decided for a particular corner. If you have an early turn point you are basically encouraging a bad habit for most corners. With an early turn point I will have to turn in slow; with a later turn point I have to quick turn. I will also need good reference points for this if I want any consistency in turn points.
    3. Am I gonna hit the apex ?
    3.1 Am I gonna hit the apex depends largely on whether I have got the first two thingies right! If I have braked well I can focus better on the turn points and focus on looking through the turn. I think vision plays the biggest role in hitting the apex. When on track I developed this habit of saying 'HIT' to myself if I hit the apex I made out to be in a corner. If I didnt hit it, I murmured a slight 'MISS' to myself. This game made me focus more on the apex itself and not indulge in the common error of letting the apex out of the sight too soon in pursuit of looking through the turn. Even today its a gamble..I hit some apexes I miss some.
    4. Will I get a good drive out ?
    4.1 After the apex has been hit or missed you cant be arsed to be bothered about anything but the drive out of a corner. You try and salvage whatever damage that had been done by fooking up the corner by getting a good drive. Sometimes everything falls in its place and you are comfortable with a freaking good drive. Other times you are constantly battling to open that throttle but cant cause u arent done cornering yet and the bike cannot be stood up yet.

    Now these are the thoughts that my brain is being overwhelmed with when cornering. Amidst all this my head explodes sometimes and then I am compelled to pull over and rest for a while. There isnt much of any consistency nor do I find myself going any faster. I just cant gather/muster up the courage of increasing my corner speeds cause I am never done with the calculations well before taking a corner and I always seem running out of time. All this results in cornering in a rush and as well all know if you arent smooth and rythmic in cornering you arent fast!

    So do I just need more practice or am I doing something fundamentally wrong ? How can I grow the balls to go faster in a corner ?

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  • anants_220
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    i don't know if you guys know this but i read somewhere that spreading some talcum powder on the seat would help you move your ass left and right easily.hope itt helps


    PS-This is not a joke.

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  • sheelpriye
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    with so many track-days taking place, no updates here:|

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  • csgup1
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    yes it is. a stripped down 675. Interesting you noticed it coz almost nothing on it is left stock.

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  • Nio
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    Originally posted by csgup1 View Post
    its just past healsville . great piece of road...
    amazing bikes and pics Csgup.. Pardon my ignorance but is that naked bike a Triumph?

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