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**caravans** · 09-15-2010, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by anandbj76 View Post

Thanks cschoudhary! Which one would you suggest if not Goldstar?

The Short-bottle is your best choice, both in regards to sound & engine health. But change only the dome, not the bent pipe. This-way, it would be a nice compromise between descent beat & better low end torque. Makes available are as follows;

1. RE Original for Standard models. Superior chrome quality, but hard to source, atleast here in Bangalore, since the Factory make SB's are for Twinsparks only, not for Standards. Internals are well the same. But an extra external fitting comes on these models for the thunderbirds, which is not required in standard. You can fit it if you are hell-bent on originals, but looks odd somehow to me.

2. Any other make Short-bottles; eg; Laxmi-Udyog, Paramount etc. Price wise cheaper, so is the decreased chrome quality (but still ok if you maintain good). You can try them in a shop & decide which sound you love better. Models come with direct fit on your bent pipe, so dont go for gas-cutting/weldings etc. if you dont find direct fit. Search.

And, if the sound isn't still making you happy, fit a Truck-size mudflap. Helps to give a better distinct beat.

**anandbj76** · 09-16-2010, 01:01 PM

Thanks caravans!

Originally posted by caravans View Post

The
RE Original for Standard models. Superior chrome quality, but hard to source, atleast here in Bangalore, since the Factory make SB's are for Twinsparks only, not for Standards. Internals are well the same. But an extra external fitting comes on these models for the thunderbirds, which is not required in standard. You can fit it if you are hell-bent on originals, but looks odd somehow to me.

Thanks caravans!

Are you referring to Standard CI? I am slightly confused.... I am purchasing a Bullet 350 UCE i.e. twinspark only, and not the standard Cast Iron one.

I am hoping to get the delivery in next few days!

Cheers!
Anand

**caravans** · 09-16-2010, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by anandbj76 View Post

Thanks caravans!

Are you referring to Standard CI? I am slightly confused.... I am purchasing a Bullet 350 UCE i.e. twinspark only, and not the standard Cast Iron one.

I am hoping to get the delivery in next few days!

Cheers!
Anand

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant Thunderbird by "twinspark" (the extra fitting is for T'bird SB only, not for your Std UCE). You can still check this for yourself in the parts store.

And actually chassis wise, your STD UCE & the older CI isn't different. It's only the engine part & it's subsidiaries that has changed. The exhaust part shall also be the same; i.e, Long Bottle factory fit.

Functionally the SB's of T'bird & Std are the same. Only, the external fitting is the difference.

I hope I am clear now. But, do wait for the run-in. It's vital for your engine. I know guys change to after market silencers on delivery; but giving the bike two to three months before the change won't hurt that much; isn't it.

**ROCKRZ** · 09-16-2010, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by caravans View Post

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant Thunderbird by "twinspark" (the extra fitting is for T'bird SB only, not for your Std UCE). You can still check this for yourself in the parts store.

And actually chassis wise, your STD UCE & the older CI isn't different. It's only the engine part & it's subsidiaries that has changed. The exhaust part shall also be the same; i.e, Long Bottle factory fit.

Functionally the SB's of T'bird & Std are the same. Only, the external fitting is the difference.

I hope I am clear now. But, do wait for the run-in. It's vital for your engine. I know guys change to after market silencers on delivery; but giving the bike two to three months before the change won't hurt that much; isn't it.

what about the goldie silencer??

what effect does it have on the engine???
also, whats the approximate cost for the silencer.

the model number is electra 5s, 2008 model. 6000 kms done
is this silencer suited for this model???

Please reply at the earliest cos I need to get the silencer before this weekend.

**anandbj76** · 09-16-2010, 08:25 PM

Check out at Shree Auto Parts in Bhavani Peth

Originally posted by ROCKRZ View Post

what about the goldie silencer??

what effect does it have on the engine???
also, whats the approximate cost for the silencer.

the model number is electra 5s, 2008 model. 6000 kms done
is this silencer suited for this model???

Please reply at the earliest cos I need to get the silencer before this weekend.

If you fit a free flowing exhaust like the megaphone or goldstar, the engine breathes freely. If you do NOT upjet ur carb, essentially it will run too lean (i.e. more air with less fuel). This will result in reduced back-pressure and in general in overheating the engine.

My suggestion - go with short bottle silencer - also referred as 'Indore' type silencer. You can buy it at Shree auto spares in bhavani peth. You can get the contact details at the road shakres web site.

Let me know the results when you fit it

Cheers!
Anand

**caravans** · 09-17-2010, 12:40 PM

YES anandbj76, you are correct. However, technically if one is obsessed with the melody of the Goldstar (plus its killer looks), upjetting knowledgably won't be too bad for his engine. But that correct upjetting is vital for good engine health, otherwise you said what it does. Whereas for short bottles, a slight richer carb is enough; many times even that isn't necessary.

Originally posted by anandbj76 View Post

If you fit a free flowing exhaust like the megaphone or goldstar, the engine breathes freely. If you do NOT upjet ur carb, essentially it will run too lean (i.e. more air with less fuel). This will result in reduced back-pressure and in general in overheating the engine.

Anand

Actually back pressure doesn't reduce because of running lean. It's the other way round.
Reduced back-pressure is purely the reason what we call a free-flow; a freeflow. In other words, it lets the exhaust pulses pass clearly without much staying back. And, hence, running lean is because of the reason you gave above; i.e too much air ( but less fuel comparatively ).

**anandbj76** · 09-17-2010, 03:13 PM

Thanks Caravans

Thanks Caravans for the inputs !

somehow, I personally like the look and feel of the short bottle one more than that of goldstar.

Goldstar at times sounds too loud (at least to me).

Anyways, thanks again for the inputs!

**caravans** · 09-23-2010, 05:30 PM

Mate, when is your Bullet due ? Waiting to hear your experience.

**anandbj76** · 09-24-2010, 12:03 PM

Thanks Caravans for showing interest

Hi Caravans,

It is overdue already

.....

The dealer had promised to delivery by 22-Sep-10, but when I called for follow up, I was told that there is some delay in production and it will arrive by this month end.

With the shraadhha days going on now, I am also not too keen in taking the delivery sooner. I will ask to deliver the vehicle in Navaratri i.e. in 2nd week of Oct-10.

A review and the pics will follow as soon as I get hold of my bull :-)

Cheers!
Anand

**gonlyg** · 09-25-2010, 11:08 AM

electra 5s 2.5 years old bulllllll

1. Done 6000 km till date

i have problem in silincer -- comapny stock total rusted out
i want to replace --

which silincer is good for electra 5s ? & cost ( did i required to upjet carb or what i i changes to indore or goldie silincer )
a-goldie ( m.s metal or s.s )

b-indore
c-company stock
d-short bottle

please give suggestion regarding good silincer

**gonlyg** · 09-25-2010, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by caravans View Post

the short-bottle is your best choice, both in regards to sound & engine health. But change only the dome, not the bent pipe. This-way, it would be a nice compromise between descent beat & better low end torque. Makes available are as follows;

1. re original for standard models. Superior chrome quality, but hard to source, atleast here in bangalore, since the factory make sb's are for twinsparks only, not for standards. Internals are well the same. But an extra external fitting comes on these models for the thunderbirds, which is not required in standard. You can fit it if you are hell-bent on originals, but looks odd somehow to me.

2. Any other make short-bottles; eg; laxmi-udyog, paramount etc. Price wise cheaper, so is the decreased chrome quality (but still ok if you maintain good). You can try them in a shop & decide which sound you love better. Models come with direct fit on your bent pipe, so dont go for gas-cutting/weldings etc. If you dont find direct fit. Search.

And, if the sound isn't still making you happy, fit a truck-size mudflap. Helps to give a better distinct beat.

electra 5s 2.5 years old bulllllll

1. Done 6000 km till date

i have problem in silincer -- comapny stock total rusted out
i want to replace --

which silincer is good for electra 5s ? & cost ( did i required to upjet carb or what i i changes to indore or goldie silincer )
a-goldie ( m.s metal or s.s )

b-indore
c-company stock
d-short bottle

please give suggestion regarding good silincer

**caravans** · 09-25-2010, 01:37 PM

What silencer do you have as stock; short bottle or long one ?
All silencers ( read long or short ) are good, depends on your taste.

Upjetting only necessary if you are shifting to a free- flow.

Remaining informations are the same as above.

Take care. Drive safe.

**sans** · 10-04-2010, 12:07 AM

Introduction-Sans Inc.

Hi fellow members
Greeting from Sans Inc,New Delhi.

Its brings me a great sense of joy to see interest from fellow members of Xbhp.
I would like to introduce Sans Inc. as one largest manufacturers of Goldstar and Megafone siilencers in India.
We are the only manufacturers who have been able to create an exact replica of the BSA model DBD34 Goldstar silencer.
Our exhaust are being used by more than 2000 people across India and have been respected for quite a long time.

About company :-

Started in year 2008 as a small venture into RE spare parts and Exhaust systems.
We have been able to maintain utmost quality standards for all our products.
we deal in RE exhaust system and other leather accessories like seats ,Saddle bags etc.

Regards
Saurabh katar
Sans Inc.

**anandbj76** · 10-04-2010, 12:41 PM

To Sans Inc.

Are your goldstar silencers 'free flow' ones, or not ?

Does it need carb re-jetting?

Do your silencers fit readily to the new UCE bullets? Does it need the bend pipe change as well? What about the catcon - will it have to be removed?

I will get my bullet 350 UCE (standard with twinspark engine) soon and hence the question :-)

Cheers!
Anand

**sans** · 10-05-2010, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by anandbj76 View Post

Are your goldstar silencers 'free flow' ones, or not ?

Does it need carb re-jetting?

Do your silencers fit readily to the new UCE bullets? Does it need the bend pipe change as well? What about the catcon - will it have to be removed?

I will get my bullet 350 UCE (standard with twinspark engine) soon and hence the question :-)

Cheers!
Anand

Hi Anand
1.Our Goldstars are not free flow.They are equipped with conical shaped baffles.

2. No,Up jetting is not mandatory as the chamber has been designed keeping in mind the RE engine.

3. yes,its a direct fit on new UCE.
No change in bent pipe is required.
You can remove the cat cone for louder notes.

4. Video of Goldstar on UCE engine
YouTube - GOLDSTAR ON A THUNDERBIRD TWINSPARK by Sans Inc,New Delhi.

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