Blah! Doesn Antz work for a fuel company now! #JustAsking

That asides, Utsav you had a thread long ago on engine breaking... and there too you had the same problem (and its posisble solutions)

PS: I have ridden your bike and had told you about 3 issues that it has
1. The valve settings are incorrect, while they would seem cool in terms of acceleration, but in the long run they f*ck up the bike
2. The clutch plates are badly worn out, and there is a play in the clutch bell
3. The oil seal is busted (possible reason could also include a non standard spec oil)

@antz: Tolurene is past man.. Iftex is present (SVC recommendation)
Well the fuel was drained and there was a bit little change I felt... couldn't gift it to an enemy as of yet :P
Never really read any 'instructions' from swingarm or the manual yet (SVC lost the manual 4 months back)
I started commuting a little slow in city traffic (home-office) and way back is in normal speed which is lower than usual.
Good idea of selling the bike. I personally felt the same after calculating all the expenses till now including fuel. Total expenses till date Rs. 61,800 (bike price=71k)

A friend of mine posses such a device. You can test it any weekend just inform me beforehand
The 10kgs deduction : My Office's antique laptop (around 5kgs+) and I lost a few pounds.

P.S.:I cant ever get those figures with my machine.



@Satyen bhai,

Gonna Change Clutch plates tomorrow.

how to determine the correct settings of the valve? I wont be trusting the SVC guys blindly (and I know nothing actually in valves)

will get the oil seal changed along.

buddy, your bike isnt that bad. We (I and kshitij) had ridden your bike during the kaas lake ride and found it to be in good condition with good acceleration.

also, during the last ride for windmill farm (about 2 months back), you overtook me at 110 kmph. considering the way your bike has been (ab)used, I do believe that it is still holding good...

as for the additives, i personally did not feel any difference in smoothness/mileage/pickup/roughness of the engine, most of them have proven useless for my bike hence i feel it might be the same for your bike too...

stop dreaming if you want a 0-60 figure of sub 3 secs from a 160 cc bike. sell it off and spend a cool 4-5 lakhs for a ninja...

if you still want own the same bike, get and post the v-box acceleration graph mentioning the bhp, torque v/s rpm. and then I could get it analysed for the exact symptom and then suggest a remedy but as you would be knowing the cost of the v-box setup and the testing charges, i think it is wiser to simply own a cbr250 for that cost and be happy with a 25 bhp bike

best is just go to the nearest service station, offer them for free $@x and if they are able to rectify the bike, sue them for improper servicing.

I guess the valve clearances&worn out clutch plates are the culprits here.
In addition, I would like to mention that you are overdosing the bike with Iftex-the recommended quantity is only 1ml. per litre&you are filling one sachet per litre which is 5ml.

r u sure 0-60 is taking 11 secs? even a dumb service center guy will be able to understand that there is some problem. have u tried visiting some other service center?

You are mixing Iftex in wrong quantity. Please read the instructions written on the pouch/bottle for correct measures (unless the ratio has changed in last 8years).

Other issues, can't say anything unless I see/hear the bike.

PS: Also share the rpm, gear, speed info - to deduce any variance from normal behavior.

PS: From where did you bought Iftex? Do they sell in bottles as well?

dude , there are some basic issues popping inmy mind when i go throygh ur problems,eve i own a hyper-edge , done 10k and i use only "shell" fully synthetic oil form the begining, and the oil which comes from tvs ,servo,veedol, and some other brands are not up to the mark for the performance and the capability of the engine, and there is an another problem "clutch plates", when the clutch slippin arises ur bike will instantly come to half performance, it will demand rpm but will not move, and drink fuel, simple, change the clutch plates if thats not satisfying change the friction plates too, and check for even proper chain lubrication, coz even that creates a hell a lot of issues with this bike, and if ur bike is pushing even a small bit of smoke just change to a new bore piston kit....... simple...... make all this perfect and still if it is bad check ur timing chain or the rocker , this bike gets a great problem in these sections dont mix any additive, just use speed petrol and use fully synthetic oil ,and ull find the difference

my bike did 4.3 sec 0-60..... but at that time no plastics where there, and intentionally tried a perfect race start procedure for checking this timing........ but mine is in a condition where its done 10k but, its as new as 1000kms

I suppose it is the Compression leak. Happened to me on a new Pulsar 150. Do you find any engine oil leakage either on top or bottom of the bore?

Also Check for the free movement of Front and rear tyres as mentioned by someone, it can be the front disc or the Axels playing the fool.

Check the Spark Plug.

You have mentioned 24KPML means examine if you have any hole beneath your fuel tank.

Do you have a Flex Capacitor on your RTR 160????

Ew!! I never read the instructions. Just did whatever the SVC guy had told me.. a sachet for every litre.

Well Clutch plates was creating issues. Just lubed the chain, now tis dripping oil.

Well I am not sure on this and have not checked this. But yes, the engine used to stay kinda oilish-dirt wet all the time. But there was never an engine oil leakage. There is no hole in the tank.


Aree who is asking the bike to do 0-60 under 3 sec? I would be happy even if it does 0-60 in 6 secs. But it was taking 11 secs to reach 60!! Then the bike was little better than what its condition was till yesterday. Well about additives, I too have started feeling the same; useless they are.


about Valves, I still dont have any idea. about the clutch plates they were damaged. I had over dosed the bike with iftex it seems then. Now no iftex only Petrol.


Well I visit Jai TVS near my home only.


Well, I used to buy iftex from the petrol pump. Once they had tried to sell a green liquid in a tiny bottle saying it was iftex. I din't even check it. Probably iftex might be sold in bottles too.


Used normal TVS oil again this time. Changed the Clutch plates and lot of other items.



@Satyen:
As you had told me, I had the clutch plates checked.
Then found the clutch plates, pressure plates were damaged.
Was suggested to changed the spark plugs and its cover after covering 19343kms on the ODO.


@All

Well Problems are quite fixed. Acceleration has reverted to normal (not like before, the acceleration was more than normal).
Still a problem remains, inspite of me trying to cross 100 mark on 2 complete empty stretches of 5kms it din't cross 93..
Possibly it might be due to the engine was cold or something like that, I will again test it today.

EDIT: I tested it and when it did not go beyond the 90 mark I took it back to the SVC and got to know that after clutch change it takes a week atleast to normalize.
Tested the mileage; which has gone up to 41kmpl. The SVC fellows said, that as the clutch plates gets adjusted, the mileage will gradually increase.

So now you now,additive was the culprit.These svc guys are hell bent on using these additives just lend them the last surviving ear!That was the reason I asked you about the additive whether you found any noticeable difference after using it.And I suspect incorrect valve clearance there,as Satyen said the tappets are tight.It will lead to serious damage of the engine in time.Get it adjusted with the help of feeler guage to the co. specs i.e.0.07mm(intake) and 0.1mm(exhaust).Check out the top speed after this and revert back.Also use a good quality engine oil next time!

112 is the max speed I could reach as of yet after the valve settings and changing the BOSCH plug to Iridium one. Truly speaking, I did not get the roads to test the top speed. Will test and let you know this weekend.

if nothing is working out , simple , its ur IDI(Induction discharge unit) that is what controlls the electicity output to the spark plg, if that mistakes u loose power.......

and the apache run with a DOHC so dont worry its not the tappets, it might be a tightly adjusted timingchain