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  • ^^ Both of you annas, can have a re-look at the ZMA rear disk mod job picture !!
    Its the bolt on ABS thingy, which as Joel said, maybe its imported from Thailand !!
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    • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
      Caesar anna, we know that ABS is anti-lock braking system. What we need to know here is whether prabhakar is offering the true ABS or the bolt ABS.
      exactly !!!!!!!!thankz anna . this guy thought that i didnt know ABS

      i dont think that prabhakar anna is selling the whole system [dont know if thats even available or not]

      i bet its that small bolt thing
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      • Originally posted by ceasar View Post
        i know what u meant ravi anna..i was just joking

        and plz don't call me "ANNA" anna ..iam still 18
        I did not really mean 'anna', take it easy.

        Originally posted by sukant08 View Post
        ^^ Both of you annas, can have a re-look at the ZMA rear disk mod job picture !!
        Its the bolt on ABS thingy, which as Joel said, maybe its imported from Thailand !!
        Oh! We missed it, concentrated on rear disc. Thanks for showing us 'anna'
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        • @ prabakar..do u have ane kind of polishing materials..turtle wax,f1 wax???
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          • Originally posted by ceasar View Post
            @ prabakar..do u have ane kind of polishing materials..turtle wax,f1 wax???
            You get all these in any car accessories shop.
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            • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
              You get all these in any car accessories shop.
              oh ....thanks very much
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              • Originally posted by sam92 View Post
                exactly !!!!!!!!thankz anna . this guy thought that i didnt know ABS

                i dont think that prabhakar anna is selling the whole system [dont know if thats even available or not]

                i bet its that small bolt thing
                seriously speaking i didn't meant that.......u mistook me bro

                however...ajkal ABS ka matlab kaun nahi janta hai
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                • Originally posted by Joel View Post
                  Now whats this ABS that you guys talking about?

                  I hope we all know how an ABS works. Considering that, are we talking about a small thingy that is attached on the banjo bolt before the caliper?
                  I've seen these Thai Import thingies.
                  You are spot on Joel!!
                  The thing is the Small bolt on from India & not from Thailand!!

                  Originally posted by ceasar View Post
                  @prabakar....where in dilsukh nagar i would like to meet u...very good start man..keep on going..things wwill start catching u p .
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                  Originally posted by sam92 View Post
                  i dont think that prabhakar anna is selling the whole system [dont know if thats even available or not]

                  i bet its that small bolt thing
                  The Full ABS which works with ECU is not avail as an after market fitment as far as I Know.

                  Its the Bolt on ABS.
                  So no electricals involved.

                  Working well with my Rear Brake.

                  Will post the Pics after my trip from Araku!!!
                  I'll recheck its effectiveness & full ride report after the 1800km High speed highway runs!!
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                  • I fail to understand, what can a small mechanical pressure release mechanism do to improve braking?
                    FYI, a properly developed ABS system will cost you a good 10-15k and with the electronics. And without electronics, this system is pretty much useless.
                    TVS girling is the first in India to develop this system and track tested on a TVS Shaolin Group C bike. They had plans of making it a production reality on the upcoming TVS models but cost was a concern.

                    Anything, non-electronic is baseless and offers no substantial advantage. Its more of a show stuff than of any serious benefit.
                    "You know what dude, my karizma has ABS"....."Oh wow!"

                    @Prabhakar - Care to show a pic and explain how it made a difference?
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                    • Ok second review!!!

                      I checked it real time!!!
                      The Rear tire is locking up very rarely!!!
                      I went on till a speed of 110+ & Applied the brake fully!!!
                      There is a screeching sound but the tail did not loose traction & the vehicle came to a stand still in slightly shorter distance.
                      The Major advantage is THERE IS NO MOVEMENT for the rear of the vehicle.
                      Also if my senses worked properly the Brake is not the same as before.

                      During medak ride I braked hard at 120+ & the rear stepped out of line.
                      I released the brake & re-applied the brake to Avoid a Stupid Car fellow.

                      Tried same today & The Vehicle's rear Never stepped out.
                      But at 110.

                      As far as I understood by the slow & fast brakings My conclusion is -
                      The Device is actually giving the pressure in a continous breaks!!!!!
                      It does not have brain!!!!!
                      Normal braking or hard braking it does not know - it knows only 1 thing simply PUMPING the brake.
                      So if U hit the brakes hard U'll notice the Pulsating ABS.

                      If U just casually hit the brakes U may not notice it but it mechanically pulsates that also!!

                      Its not a rocket science involved in this.
                      But the marketing terms it as ABS.
                      This is not ABS - its a PUMP.
                      The way U do pumping to make effective sudden braking.
                      So from now on lets call it Brake AID or Pump.

                      But what it does in effect is what we require under hard braking - Pumping.

                      The Sound which was coming from the rear was not from this Device as reported earlier.
                      It was from the Tire - There was a nail in it!!!

                      @ Joel

                      Lets keep the debate open.
                      I know the distance reduced.
                      I also know that the rear is not stepping out!!!

                      I removed the device & tested it near my home.

                      At most I can post the pics of the tire marks!!
                      The 1 with this device was shorter & lighter.
                      The 1 without the device was longer & darker.

                      But that cannot prove the point!!!

                      Please let me know how we can test it properly???
                      Bike India tested it & said it works good.
                      But let us test ourselves!!!
                      Please suggest something which can prove whether it is actually working or not.

                      please PM ur Number I'll explain what is happening so that we can test it further!!!
                      Last edited by Prabhakar; 05-29-2009, 05:28 PM.
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                      • Ok a few points.
                        Rear stepping out is coz of,
                        Bad tarmac conditions
                        Bad tyre condition
                        Bad tyre profile/pattern. Hard compoud etc
                        Brake too sharp and improper weight distribution

                        The right method to test a braking device is by using a data logging device such as V-BOX etc and then measuring back to back. It has to be tested extensively on a race/test track and not on public roads which will not provide consistent feedback.
                        When you try as an individual, the results tend to become more psychological than reality. if you slam the rear at 100+ or 120 and notice lesser skid mark etc....thats not testing!
                        What does an ABS do and how does it perform?
                        An ABS system sends varying fluid forces to the calipers to change the braking bite as per the demand of the road conditions. Which means, you cant over lock a rear alone and vice versa coz the system will distribute the fluid force evenly based on traction conditions.
                        Now on a mechanical system, its impossible to work to give any improvement. Coz there is no brains to control the fluid force and a system without brains is merely a basic mechanical contracption.

                        So you said it, its not ABS, its a pump. So why call it ABS? There is not even 5% of the actual ABS tech invloved I bet.
                        If its a pump, it can only improve the braking bite by amplifying the fluid pressure and probably giving pulsations. Nothing else.

                        Just read about the new 09 CBR with ABS and you'll get a new dimension of a well designed working ABS on a motorcycle.
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                        • @Probiker

                          Why not post a pic of the "ABS" installed on your bike while u can post the pics of the tyre marks?

                          We would get an idea!
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                          • OT: I dont have ABS, but have flABS, any ideas on where and how to shed it....


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                            • maybe testing 2 220's, one with and the other one without abs,
                              and applying only the rear brake,i guess we can see the diff..
                              this abs thingy even has a website ( Saferide ABS ) costing 1k per peice and was rewied in the recent bike india mag...
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                              • I wont trust these magazines, instead would do my own tests.
                                And these are for sure not made here in india
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