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**MaSh** · 10-05-2009, 03:09 PM

Well, my bike's RPM meter is in my head. I kick start it with zero acceleration, idle for about 5 seconds and then accelerate very very slightly, just about lifting it from idle. Now, not sure about other bikes, but in mine, after about 30-40 seconds on the same acceleration, the engine revs a bit more and that's my indication that its good to go. I engage First gear and roll on keeping revs low and changing gears early(at the speed at which i am sure, engine will not knock when i move to the next gear) and maintaining a speed of about 40-45km/h for about a KM or so. I then build up speed as per the traffic condition.

My bike is over 8 years old now and this method I guess works for it, as I have had absolutely no issues.

Bikes are never too demanding, they just require little amount of understanding and care from the rider.

**Shanz** · 10-05-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by MaSh View Post

Bikes are never too demanding, they just require little amount of understanding and care from the rider.

I second you!
That very true..

Shanz

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**jd666** · 10-06-2009, 03:36 AM

@abhijeet - i dont think stressing the engine for the first minute is good. and you cant waste much fuel in 30 seconds of idling. Not to nit pick, but its always better to go easy on your engine ( car or bike ) the first few mins. Everyone eventually develops a way that suits them best. Cheers and happy riding!

**prakash_mvpa** · 10-06-2009, 04:27 AM

What about Kicking the kick lever for some 4-5 times and start the Engine?Idle for about 1 minute and Ride off under 4K rpm?This is what I follow.

**animeher** · 10-06-2009, 11:16 AM

^^That's a good habbit. Stick with it. This is the same what I follow.

**abhijeet080808** · 10-06-2009, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by jd666 View Post

@abhijeet - i dont think stressing the engine for the first minute is good. and you cant waste much fuel in 30 seconds of idling. Not to nit pick, but its always better to go easy on your engine ( car or bike ) the first few mins. Everyone eventually develops a way that suits them best. Cheers and happy riding!

Fuel wasting is secondary. Primarily, idling when the engine is cold means that idle rpm will be below optimum. It will be at like 800-900rpm. This affects the engine. Secondly, at low temperature, fuel does not get burned fully.This fuel sticks to the cylinder head forming carbon and also dilutes the engine oil. So, it is desirable to get the temperature up as quickly as possible. Keeping rpm below 3k is sufficient to ensure that no damage results due to lubrication issues and gets the temperature up quickly too.

Edit : Pulling the clutch and kicking a few times is a good idea.

**RanjithMN** · 10-06-2009, 11:22 AM

what i do is...start the bike WITHOUT choke and idle it for almost 1 min...then ride it smooth for couple of mins and then GO BABY GO!

**psycho 98** · 10-06-2009, 12:26 PM

Ignition off 4 kicks, ignition on no choke 1 min idling, keeep revs under 3 k rpm for the first 3 to 4 kms.

**vipin_s** · 10-06-2009, 12:44 PM

Morning start plus warm up.
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> Put bike on center stand and neutral gear.
> Depress and release clutch 2/3 times
> Without ignition in on position crank the engine 3-4 times using kick
> Repeat depressing of clutch 2/3 times.
> On the Choke, put key in ignition 'ON' Position.
> Use kick to start, the bike will attain 2-3K RPM for first few secs (10-20 secs).
> Turn off the choke (gradually) when it reaches idle rpm (if the morning is warm it takes few seconds, if very cold it can take even 30 secs to reach idle rpm) of 1200 to 1400.
> leave the bike to idle for 10 secs or so.
> You are all set to 'take off' !!!
> All this procedure takes just over a minute.

**psycho 98** · 10-06-2009, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by Shivanshu View Post

another question i have is how does the self start works on a chilly morning with bikes which doesnt have a start kick....like FZ, R15,P200, P220, etc....

Ignition off engage to first gear push the bike some 100 meters

its called warming up for the owner, nice excersice for the owner. LOL kidding man

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there is nothing much you can do rather than self start and idle it for few mins and keep revs lesser than 3k rpm for first 3kms.

**Raccoon** · 10-06-2009, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

Fuel wasting is secondary. Primarily, idling when the engine is cold means that idle rpm will be below optimum. It will be at like 800-900rpm. This affects the engine. Secondly, at low temperature, fuel does not get burned fully.This fuel sticks to the cylinder head forming carbon and also dilutes the engine oil. So, it is desirable to get the temperature up as quickly as possible. Keeping rpm below 3k is sufficient to ensure that no damage results due to lubrication issues and gets the temperature up quickly too.

Edit : Pulling the clutch and kicking a few times is a good idea.

Getting the temp up "as quickly as possible" is actually not the best idea. Very rapid heating up is bad for the metals. This is one of the main reasons its not recommended to blast off without letting the engine warm up in reasonable time (neither too slow nor too rapid).

When doing a cold start, its normal for the idling RPM to drop below the optimal. Its a good idea to hold it at idle RPM (around 1500 for most bikes) or a bit higher, using the throttle. Personally, I idle this way for about 45 - 60 seconds, before starting to ride off and keep the speed/RPM low for first few mins.

**abhijeet080808** · 10-06-2009, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Raccoon View Post

Getting the temp up "as quickly as possible" is actually not the best idea. Very rapid heating up is bad for the metals. This is one of the main reasons its not recommended to blast off without letting the engine warm up in reasonable time (neither too slow nor too rapid).

When doing a cold start, its normal for the idling RPM to drop below the optimal. Its a good idea to hold it at idle RPM (around 1500 for most bikes) or a bit higher, using the throttle. Personally, I idle this way for about 45 - 60 seconds, before starting to ride off and keep the speed/RPM low for first few mins.

Yeah, as quickly as possible without any side effect like you have mentioned. That is why I have said that rpm needs to be kept below 3k. Else, don't you think blasting the engine to 10k would have provided even faster warm up!

**vinoob** · 10-06-2009, 08:13 PM

once i faced a problem starting my fz early morning tried the choke also but it failed to start. had to leave my bike home and catch a bus...thn got it started by evening...dont know what was the problem,,,,thank god didn't face any such issue till date...any idea abt starting those kinds of bikes without kicker,,

**prakash_mvpa** · 10-06-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

Yeah, as quickly as possible without any side effect like you have mentioned. That is why I have said that rpm needs to be kept below 3k. Else, don't you think blasting the engine to 10k would have provided even faster warm up!

So,Consensus is that: Start the Engine with RPM(For RTR/Fiero) at 1500 Kept with the help of Light throttle?Is that the Way?

For Morning Starts also?

**avinrichards** · 10-06-2009, 08:35 PM

I was suggested by my mech to actually before starting the bike to depress and release the clutch couple of time to get the oil flowing between the clutch plates and then start the bike in neutral and do the same.
The rest same as what the guys have told here. Keep it below 3-4K RPM's for the first couple of Kms..

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