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  • #46
    abhijeet080808 and my mechanic, I've decided to do the following changes on my bike.
    H4 100/140W halogen bulb
    Pipe air horns (the one which comes with 3 bright red pipes and a motor)
    Stator coil rewinding with 17 AWG wire
    APE RR unit
    Ok, so now I have procured items 1, 2 and 4. As for the rewinding part, I got hold of a mechanic for this purpose.

    What are the common pitfalls that I need to look out for? What would be the change in wiring required and where?

    The battery I use is an amaron 12v 9ah battery. Would there be any effects on the battery? If so what?

    PS: I've already installed the auto pal headlamp.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by undefineme3 View Post
      abhijeet080808 and my mechanic, I've decided to do the following changes on my bike.
      H4 100/140W halogen bulb
      Pipe air horns (the one which comes with 3 bright red pipes and a motor)
      Stator coil rewinding with 17 AWG wire
      APE RR unit
      Ok, so now I have procured items 1, 2 and 4. As for the rewinding part, I got hold of a mechanic for this purpose.

      What are the common pitfalls that I need to look out for? What would be the change in wiring required and where?

      The battery I use is an amaron 12v 9ah battery. Would there be any effects on the battery? If so what?

      PS: I've already installed the auto pal headlamp.
      Gonna use 100/140W on a bike? 100/130W only heard about I dont think u'll get the full brightness though u can try. I hope ur sealed beam is a metal reflector else, keep a tray to collect the molten reflector drops. Need to change the supply wires, route the whole tru relays. Why do u want to change the RR for a halo? AC+DC setup will keep ur batt in good health due to min usage. Go for the RR swap only if want to alter the charging rate. 3 pipe airhorn will easily support from a 9AH.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by sajanjosepht View Post
        Gonna use 100/140W on a bike? 100/130W only heard about I dont think u'll get the full brightness though u can try. I hope ur sealed beam is a metal reflector else, keep a tray to collect the molten reflector drops. Need to change the supply wires, route the whole tru relays. Why do u want to change the RR for a halo? AC+DC setup will keep ur batt in good health due to min usage. Go for the RR swap only if want to alter the charging rate. 3 pipe airhorn will easily support from a 9AH.
        Oh, yes. Its a H4 100/130W lispart bulb. typo. Yes, the sealed beam is a metal reflector(straight from the amby) and what did you mean by keeping a tray? Didn't get you there.

        The supply wires: you mean the one going to the headlight only right? or from the stator?

        RR is for the future prospects. not fitting it right now. will be fitting it when i plug in two 55w HIDs(single beam, one hi, one lo) when i would be requiring a full DC output.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by undefineme3 View Post
          Oh, yes. Its a H4 100/130W lispart bulb. typo. Yes, the sealed beam is a metal reflector(straight from the amby) and what did you mean by keeping a tray? Didn't get you there.

          The supply wires: you mean the one going to the headlight only right? or from the stator?

          RR is for the future prospects. not fitting it right now. will be fitting it when i plug in two 55w HIDs(single beam, one hi, one lo) when i would be requiring a full DC output.
          If u keep the 100/130 on a plastic relfector it wont withstand the heat thatz all I meant.

          Supply wires from the RR as the stock wires are thin.

          Man, if u put a 35W HID on a sealed beam you will get nice greets from oncomers if u adjust to your convenient height. so imagine the welcome notes from them if u put a 55W. Thing is u wont get an impressive beams spread from an HID on a sealed beam and the visibiity improves only the surroundings as the light throw distance is shorter than the Halos due to the focussing issues. For an oncomer ur light is as good as a 1000W plasma and they couldnt resist staring on it. But for u its as good as a mean lighting beyond some distance. Instead u need to go for projectors for better results. All HID conversion kits for sealed beams are fakes as there's no sealed beams have the HID capability as its focal positioning and optical design methods are totally different for a halogen and an HID.
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          • #50
            Ok. Just now Wikied about sealed beams and i'd got it all wrong. So what i understood is that, in a sealed beam, the reflector and the filament(the bulb) are one component.

            So i've got this autopal H4 assembly, wherein i can change the bulb. So it is not a sealed beam right?

            @sajanjosepht: So having one bi-xenon 55W would still be a problem for oncoming traffic? And for the twin HIDs I was thinking of installing two of avengers headlamps(do they come with a metal reflector?) and not into the autopal. Please give your opinion in this matter too.

            One more thing, if I go ahead with the 100/130W bulb with the stock RR unit, the headlight would be on AC and would there be any drawbacks?

            My main intention of doing this mod is because I would be frequenting the highways(involving many night trips) for the coming 6 months and the currently available 35/35W is just not enough.!

            In comparison, is a 55W HID more powerful than a 100/130W halogen?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by undefineme3 View Post
              Ok. Just now Wikied about sealed beams and i'd got it all wrong. So what i understood is that, in a sealed beam, the reflector and the filament(the bulb) are one component.

              So i've got this autopal H4 assembly, wherein i can change the bulb. So it is not a sealed beam right?

              @sajanjosepht: So having one bi-xenon 55W would still be a problem for oncoming traffic? And for the twin HIDs I was thinking of installing two of avengers headlamps(do they come with a metal reflector?) and not into the autopal. Please give your opinion in this matter too.

              One more thing, if I go ahead with the 100/130W bulb with the stock RR unit, the headlight would be on AC and would there be any drawbacks?

              My main intention of doing this mod is because I would be frequenting the highways(involving many night trips) for the coming 6 months and the currently available 35/35W is just not enough.!

              In comparison, is a 55W HID more powerful than a 100/130W halogen?
              Ok so here it is something Which I wanted to share..

              If u want to go for HID then U need battery to be charged perfectly to feed them, if you are using AC+DC bikes then its gona be a problem..

              I have CBZ Classic & I have done Coil rewinding which has helped me put 90/100W but believe me the charging rate to battery has'nt much effected.

              2nd point - After putting 90/100W my bike is taking nearly up to 5.5k Rpm for the bulb to glow in its full brightness.. so considering this I do not advice you to go for 100/130W because simply it puts Unneccesary load on Wires & no point having it to get full brightness @ 7 or 7.5k RPM

              Just go for 90/100W Philips Rally vision best in Business..
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              • #52
                Originally posted by undefineme3 View Post
                Oh, yes. Its a H4 100/130W lispart bulb. typo. Yes, the sealed beam is a metal reflector(straight from the amby) and what did you mean by keeping a tray? Didn't get you there.

                The supply wires: you mean the one going to the headlight only right? or from the stator?

                RR is for the future prospects. not fitting it right now. will be fitting it when i plug in two 55w HIDs(single beam, one hi, one lo) when i would be requiring a full DC output.
                Dude, better don't use LISPART. They are hopeless! And use thicker wires everywhere.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by undefineme3 View Post
                  Ok. Just now Wikied about sealed beams and i'd got it all wrong. So what i understood is that, in a sealed beam, the reflector and the filament(the bulb) are one component.

                  So i've got this autopal H4 assembly, wherein i can change the bulb. So it is not a sealed beam right?

                  @sajanjosepht: So having one bi-xenon 55W would still be a problem for oncoming traffic? And for the twin HIDs I was thinking of installing two of avengers headlamps(do they come with a metal reflector?) and not into the autopal. Please give your opinion in this matter too.

                  One more thing, if I go ahead with the 100/130W bulb with the stock RR unit, the headlight would be on AC and would there be any drawbacks?

                  My main intention of doing this mod is because I would be frequenting the highways(involving many night trips) for the coming 6 months and the currently available 35/35W is just not enough.!

                  In comparison, is a 55W HID more powerful than a 100/130W halogen?
                  Here's defn for Sealed beam from Wiki:
                  A sealed beam is a type of lamp that includes a reflector and filament as a single assembly, over which a front cover (lens) of clear glass, is permanently attached. Previously, automotive headlamps used a separate small bulb and reflector covered with a ribbed lens to avoid glare from the filament. This cover would be clamped on with a grommet to seal it. The method's deficiencies prompted the invention of the sealed beam system.

                  So still having confusion about ur Autopal dome? Its a sealed beam dude.

                  I dont know about Avy's reflectors, Avy owners can comment, but putting a 55W HID is something like you are aiming with hundreds of stray glares to the oncomers as its not designed for an HID bulb. Just think about a 35W HID, its producing enough glares with that power, so what could be the result with a 55W? Whats ur batt AH? 55W will take 13-14A at first, so ur batt should be able to provide that. And so is ur batt charging rate too. If u still have the urge to go with that just go ahead and mind that being with much brighter HL, u r being cop magnet too.

                  That part is already answered, 130W its hard to support from a coil, or you may have to sacrifice other loads. Mine is 130W coil, but when I tried to light a 130W I didnt get the desired brightness. But u can use a 90/100 without any issues provided thicker wires with a relay. But all that depends on the skills of ur electrician, as a neat winding will give correct no of turns with a thicker guage, else, less turns and in effective, you will get better output only on higher rpms. Normally, u should get the optimum @ 3K, beyond that no change as the RR takes care of it.

                  As per some comparision, a 55W halo is equal to 35W HID, now u do some math
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by sajanjosepht View Post
                    Here's defn for Sealed beam from Wiki:
                    A sealed beam is a type of lamp that includes a reflector and filament as a single assembly, over which a front cover (lens) of clear glass, is permanently attached. Previously, automotive headlamps used a separate small bulb and reflector covered with a ribbed lens to avoid glare from the filament. This cover would be clamped on with a grommet to seal it. The method's deficiencies prompted the invention of the sealed beam system.

                    So still having confusion about ur Autopal dome? Its a sealed beam dude.

                    I dont know about Avy's reflectors, Avy owners can comment, but putting a 55W HID is something like you are aiming with hundreds of stray glares to the oncomers as its not designed for an HID bulb. Just think about a 35W HID, its producing enough glares with that power, so what could be the result with a 55W? Whats ur batt AH? 55W will take 13-14A at first, so ur batt should be able to provide that. And so is ur batt charging rate too. If u still have the urge to go with that just go ahead and mind that being with much brighter HL, u r being cop magnet too.

                    That part is already answered, 130W its hard to support from a coil, or you may have to sacrifice other loads. Mine is 130W coil, but when I tried to light a 130W I didnt get the desired brightness. But u can use a 90/100 without any issues provided thicker wires with a relay. But all that depends on the skills of ur electrician, as a neat winding will give correct no of turns with a thicker guage, else, less turns and in effective, you will get better output only on higher rpms. Normally, u should get the optimum @ 3K, beyond that no change as the RR takes care of it.

                    As per some comparision, a 55W halo is equal to 35W HID, now u do some math
                    Wow, r u runnng any mod shop in Cochin?

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                    • #55
                      Any good electrician in mumbai who can do coil rewinding on a RX.
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                      • #56
                        Coil Rewinding in ZMA

                        Hi Guyz,
                        I m using Nov09 ZMA, clocked 9k kms...
                        Recently I ve changed my bulb to 55wt Phillips and horn to dual bosch horns..
                        Problem is, when I switch on the HL, the horn becomes very feabble
                        The light is also not that impressive...

                        Can rewinding the coil will solve my problem???
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                        • #57
                          i am finally going to rewind my coil with 19awg wires should i go for more thicher guage or 19 is enough
                          i am thinking of rewinding just 4poles which supply power to headlamp..
                          as my bike is pulsar 200dtsi it has BCU and contactless switches so i am not making my bike DC just want to plonk 90w bulb on AC
                          i am going to use AMBYs reflector
                          so could u please tell me that which for poles are used for supplying power to headlamp
                          and do i need to change any type of wires as 90w halogen takes lot of power so would it damage my wiring or not???
                          please help me
                          any suggestions
                          Regards

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                          • #58
                            please help
                            as the wires from stator goes through rectifier....so would it damage anything as i am going to plonk 90w halogen....

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                            • #59
                              plz ask in dedicated thread in universal threads section.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                                I know many people who have rewinded their coil on UNICORN and successfully running 55/60w or 90/100w since a year or 2 without any problem. In Bangalore the place is Ruby Electricals, he charges 950rs for rewinding with custom RR Unit.

                                Sajan - Now its u r turn to go thru previous posts as I have told this many times - My fren is running a 90/100w on stock reflector on his Unicorn after rewinding.
                                you mean to say they've'nt cahnged setup to DC. only coil rewinding and 55/60 bulb would suffice?

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