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**aargee** · 03-19-2010, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by rossiter View Post

That's a lovely link. I might just buy something now

I'm glad you liked it

Originally posted by nfsnfs View Post

Any one gettting this from US , let me know I am also in for one .

Powerbuilt Digital Torque Adapter

Amazon.com: Alltrade 940759 Powerbuilt Digital Torque Adaptor for 1/2-Inch Driver: Home Improvement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EeQeH5YAcA

Check out 20north, they'll probably ship this for you

**Ayson** · 03-19-2010, 09:25 PM

My search has led me to one that sells for 1.8k. Torque range: 0 - 150lb f.ft, 203Nm, 20 kg f.m. I asked for brand, he said just Taiwan. It's out of stock, more details 2nd week of april. Meanwhile i'll keep looking.

The adaptor posted by nfsnfs is very nice, price and utility, but the torque range is not mentioned. I will search more of this type too.

EDIT: From the user reviews, the range of that adapter starts from 19.5 lb f.ft, 2.7 kg f.m, 26.4 Nm. If that is correct, it is above the lower limit for me.

P180 UG3 service manual listed torque range is : Kg f.m 0.5-10.0 ~ Nm 5-100 ~ lb f.ft 3.6-72

EDIT 2. That adapter is available in India!!!!!

That too for different torque ranges. Will post details soon.

**rossiter** · 03-19-2010, 10:21 PM

Anyone buying from Sears, please be prepared to pay customs duty. I don't know what the duty is, but it should be around 5-10% I suppose.

@Ayson: 0-150 lb.ft seems too much for what you want to do. Buy something with a smaller range. 100 lb.ft and above will be for larger diameter nuts like the wheel axle nuts.

For engine oil drain bolts, spark plugs, and bolts for these kind of points, 0-50 should be enough. Will be slightly more expensive, and more accurate as well.

**aargee** · 03-21-2010, 09:18 AM

It was really itching to post my tools & ofcourse ask you a suggestion too since Friday (damn internet); here you go on the pics of my collection...

Objective - To open up my RX & little bit of my WagonR (not engine)
Question
1. What additional tools should I be looking to buy?
2. I'm planning to buy a set of pliers, would that be helpful?
3. Will that 2XX or 3XX odd mechanic tool set from Craftsman be of some help in addition to these tools?

**aargee** · 03-24-2010, 01:02 PM

Check this Wuerth Tools that are sold in India; don't know about the prices; but they're from Germany & needn't say about their quality, precision & engineering

Best part is they've offices in India & the tools can be procured from them; anybody has experience from them?

**aargee** · 03-27-2010, 04:40 PM

Found out from Wurth - They're way too expensive & good part is that they're Made in Germany

**jayprashanth** · 03-30-2010, 06:49 PM

For Taparia tools in Bangalore, a good place to buy would be Jairam Das company near the City Market. It is right next to Ekambaram and Company(a famous sanitary fittings store). I bought my Taparia Socket set at Jairam Das company for about INR 2800(after haggling). Allen key set costs about INR 140. The Taparia open ended spanner set is about INR 140-150. These tools should be enough for regular maintenance by an amateur DIYer. Using a torque wrench for fastening stuff like the the spark plug IMHO is a bit of an overkill. That said, a torque wrench is a great tool to hae for engine drain bolts. For spark plugs, the socket that comes in the bike's toolkit would do. You just need to tighten it till it stops turning with mild pressure and the cylinder once warm/hot will do the rest for you.

When it comes to tools, please be very cautious while buying anything from China. Indian tool brands like Taparia and Everest, though slightly pricey, are way better than most cheap Chinese imports.

Cheers,

Jay

**rossiter** · 03-30-2010, 06:58 PM

Thanks for that info Jay!

**nfsnfs** · 03-30-2010, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by jayprashanth View Post

For Taparia tools in Bangalore, a good place to buy would be Jairam Das company near the City Market. It is right next to Ekambaram and Company(a famous sanitary fittings store). I bought my Taparia Socket set at Jairam Das company for about INR 2800(after haggling). Allen key set costs about INR 140. The Taparia open ended spanner set is about INR 140-150. These tools should be enough for regular maintenance by an amateur DIYer. Using a torque wrench for fastening stuff like the the spark plug IMHO is a bit of an overkill. That said, a torque wrench is a great tool to hae for engine drain bolts. For spark plugs, the socket that comes in the bike's toolkit would do. You just need to tighten it till it stops turning with mild pressure and the cylinder once warm/hot will do the rest for you.

When it comes to tools, please be very cautious while buying anything from China. Indian tool brands like Taparia and Everest, though slightly pricey, are way better than most cheap Chinese imports.

Cheers,

Jay

2800 Rs for just that ?

.Its very costly .
I got this following for 1700 .

.Very very good .

**aargee** · 03-30-2010, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by jayprashanth View Post

When it comes to tools, please be very cautious while buying anything from China. Indian tool brands like Taparia and Everest, though slightly pricey, are way better than most cheap Chinese imports.

But why may I ask?

@nfsnfs - Yours looks good in quality. What brand is that? Is it a Chinese import? Could you share details pls?

**jayprashanth** · 03-30-2010, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by nfsnfs View Post

2800 Rs for just that ?

.Its very costly .
I got this following for 1700 .

.Very very good .

Which brand is your socket kit may I ask? About the cost, Taparia tools are costly, but well worth it.

Cheers,

Jay

**jayprashanth** · 03-30-2010, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by rossiter View Post

Thanks for that info Jay!

My pleasure sir.

Originally posted by aargee View Post

But why may I ask?

Most Chinese tools skimp on quality to meet the lowest price. For example, last week, I bought a bunch of fasteners for my Bullet from a well known fastener dealer in the Bangalore city market area. Each TVS-Girling(the best in the market) 1.5inch allen bolt for the timing case came at no less than 9 rupees while the same allen key from China was about 4 rupees. The Chinese allen bolts get rounded if screwed and unscrewed twice while the TVS-Girling stuff lasts for much longer. Same case with a lot of tools coming in from China. Chinese socket sets can be had for as low as 1200 rupees but the quality usually suffers. And they look much better packaged than Indian tools but looks definitely are secondary when it comes to tools. IMHO, using inferior tools damages not just itself, but also the component it is meant to work on.

Cheers,

Jay

**iamvik** · 03-30-2010, 10:55 PM

You are right about the quality of Chinese tools. But consider the price difference between 30% to 70% and consider the usage of most DIY users. I think the compromise in quality is acceptable for some infrequently used tools. But sometimes even lower cost Indian tools are of better quality than Chinese tools of almost equal cost. The difference is that the finish of Indian tools is poor but the durability is higher.

**jayprashanth** · 03-31-2010, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by iamvik View Post

You are right about the quality of Chinese tools. But consider the price difference between 30% to 70% and consider the usage of most DIY users. I think the compromise in quality is acceptable for some infrequently used tools. But sometimes even lower cost Indian tools are of better quality than Chinese tools of almost equal cost. The difference is that the finish of Indian tools is poor but the durability is higher.

Skimping on good quality tools will more often than not result in the tool damaging the part which it works on and this applies to infrequently used tools too. For novices, a couple of broken or warped nuts/bolts usually means the end of DIYing since most people stop fiddling around once they break/warp something. That's why, top quality tools always are better than the cheaper stuff. For example the pathetic allen key that came with my LB500s toolkit almost ended in rounding a critical allen bolt on my timing case. I was lucky to get some good advise before things got bad, but such things most often don't have happy endings. Hence the continued emphasis on good quality tools. Just my two cents.

Cheers,

Jay

**Ayson** · 03-31-2010, 01:29 PM

Any updates on the torque wrench? I did not get any new info. And that digital torque adapter is from Taiwan. Thats all the extra info i know.

As a DIY-er, i need the torque wrench for more than just the spark plug, as of now i have already felt its absence while working on the front calliper mount, axle and sleve, handlebar holder, torque rod.

I'm thinking, i would have been a much happier person if i just didn't know about torque wrenches and torque settings for fasteners.

And its a bad thing that Bajaj mentions the torques for only 49 fasteners. The R-15 manual probably has the torques for every possible one and even a generic list. The schematics are so awesome, while bajaj has blurry b&w photos.

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