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  • guys,
    if i put up a 35w hid in the p220's reflector for high beam, will i have to face any battery issues??

    my coil is perfectly winded.
    i use a 9 amp battery.
    will it work well if i use it only on highways??

    tell me.
    as i am thinking of ordering a h7 hid too.
    Giving a lot to a fiero.
    Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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    • Hi All,

      I have a Pulsar 180 UG - IV. I have few queries,though you might help.

      Below are the specifications from the manual and bajaj web site.

      Electrical System12 V Full DCHeadlamp (Low/High Beam- Watts)35/35 W with 2 pilot lamps

      1.Can i install H4 bulbs of the rating 60/55 as a direct fit with out changes to wiring ?

      2.If Yes,What might be impact on the battary and do i need to change the alternator wiring ?

      3.Do any after market LEDS can be fitted in the tails lamps or pilot lamps ?

      Thanks.

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      • Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
        AFAIK the lens is designed for the heat of HID. And 100w heat is damn high. Forget the battery part, you lens will go for a toss first along with battery. Lens and Battery will be doing party in hell
        Let them party, Where's the HID pics man?
        Do it Yourself, what so ever, if Possible
        -----------------------------------------
        sigpic
        After Market HID Projector Mod for Pulsar 150
        Flasher Enabled Head Light Flash for Just Rs.1/-

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        • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
          guys,
          if i put up a 35w hid in the p220's reflector for high beam, will i have to face any battery issues??

          my coil is perfectly winded.
          i use a 9 amp battery.
          will it work well if i use it only on highways??

          tell me.
          as i am thinking of ordering a h7 hid too.
          Go ahead !!

          Originally posted by sajjt View Post
          Let them party, Where's the HID pics man?
          At your best in missing out the posts I have got the kit in my hand, yet to fix them. Will be up tomorrow.

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          • Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
            Go ahead !!


            At your best in missing out the posts I have got the kit in my hand, yet to fix them. Will be up tomorrow.
            I read that, am asking the real HID package in flesh
            Do it Yourself, what so ever, if Possible
            -----------------------------------------
            sigpic
            After Market HID Projector Mod for Pulsar 150
            Flasher Enabled Head Light Flash for Just Rs.1/-

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            • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
              guys,
              if i put up a 35w hid in the p220's reflector for high beam, will i have to face any battery issues??

              my coil is perfectly winded.
              i use a 9 amp battery.
              will it work well if i use it only on highways??

              tell me.
              as i am thinking of ordering a h7 hid too.
              yes -if you want to use one hid at a time.

              no -if you want to use both hids at a time.
              sigpic
              RIDE AND DRIVE SAFE AND PLEASE CHANGE THE PICTURE ON INDIAN ROADS.
              my thoughts,my area,my game....
              http://vmtm.blogspot.com/
              IF YOU LOVE MAINTAINING YOUR RIDE..http://nexgenbikes.com/site/

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              • Originally posted by vasu.dc View Post
                Hi All,
                I have a Pulsar 180 UG - IV. I have few queries,though you might help.

                Electrical System12 V Full DCHeadlamp (Low/High Beam- Watts)35/35 W with 2 pilot lamps

                1.Can i install H4 bulbs of the rating 60/55 as a direct fit with out changes to wiring ?

                2.If Yes,What might be impact on the battary and do i need to change the alternator wiring ?

                3.Do any after market LEDS can be fitted in the tails lamps or pilot lamps ?

                Thanks.
                yes a h4 55 w will be direct replacement as bike is full dc . should be no trouble for battery unless too much low rpm riding .

                tail is already led based in pulsar but you can go for leds in pilot lamps .

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                • Originally posted by vasu.dc View Post
                  Hi All,

                  I have a Pulsar 180 UG - IV. I have few queries,though you might help.

                  Below are the specifications from the manual and bajaj web site.

                  Electrical System12 V Full DCHeadlamp (Low/High Beam- Watts)35/35 W with 2 pilot lamps

                  1.Can i install H4 bulbs of the rating 60/55 as a direct fit with out changes to wiring ?

                  2.If Yes,What might be impact on the battary and do i need to change the alternator wiring ?

                  3.Do any after market LEDS can be fitted in the tails lamps or pilot lamps ?

                  Thanks.
                  no dude,dont do it.
                  charging is low,dc wont help.if ride continuously your battery will down within a hour.
                  sorry punnet,you are wrong in this thing.
                  sigpic
                  RIDE AND DRIVE SAFE AND PLEASE CHANGE THE PICTURE ON INDIAN ROADS.
                  my thoughts,my area,my game....
                  http://vmtm.blogspot.com/
                  IF YOU LOVE MAINTAINING YOUR RIDE..http://nexgenbikes.com/site/

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                  • Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
                    yes -if you want to use one hid at a time.

                    no -if you want to use both hids at a time.
                    doc.
                    okay i agree, but i want to know why...
                    its 12 feet per pole...

                    why not, is it falling short?
                    if in case i do need both on, what's the remedy??
                    Giving a lot to a fiero.
                    Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                    • Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
                      no dude,dont do it.
                      charging is low,dc wont help.if ride continuously your battery will down within a hour.
                      sorry punnet,you are wrong in this thing.
                      even if one changes pilots to leds and rides at avg 4k rpm ?

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                      • worst thing ever

                        guys
                        same battery issues started again.
                        rode 20kms today with headlamp off..


                        i used only low beam all the time
                        didn't need headlight from 2 days too...

                        19 gauge wire --------------check

                        12 feet per pole ------------check

                        fresh 9 amp battery --------check..

                        what the hell can be wrong now ?????????
                        Giving a lot to a fiero.
                        Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                        • earlier you posted this - the output of my ape rr gives 8 volts at 2000 rpm, and 34 volts at 7500 rpm
                          Isn't this too much voltage?

                          19 gauge wire --------------check

                          12 feet per pole ------------check

                          Stator voltage at RR input(raw) --------------????????
                          RR O/P voltage(rectified, regulated) -----------------??????
                          Any short circuits that are leading to battery drainage -------------???????

                          fresh 9 amp battery --------check

                          A regulator should regulate voltage Isn't it? 8v~34v is too much variation and definitely not acceptable. I never has any experience with APE RR regarding its output w/o load but please check for error in RR. Please ask people here in xbhp who use APE RR to post measurements of the output voltage without load and compare. The battery can be checked at the final stage.

                          If you wish to double check the battery, take out the battery, charge the battery for a night/full day using any >12v1A DC adapter(best option is laptop charger, it produces decent amperage~3 or 4 at 19v only charge for few hours if you use this- 3~4hours) and after the battery is fully charged, connect a load(35/55w bulb) and measure the amperage and time. by this you can assess the health of the battery. saves arguments and headache with the dealer if there is no fault in the battery.

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                          • Originally posted by sandeepcf View Post
                            Isn't this too much voltage?

                            19 gauge wire --------------check

                            12 feet per pole ------------check

                            Stator voltage at RR input(raw) --------------????????
                            RR O/P voltage(rectified, regulated) -----------------??????
                            Any short circuits that are leading to battery drainage -------------???????

                            fresh 9 amp battery --------check

                            A regulator should regulate voltage Isn't it? 8v~34v is too much variation and definitely not acceptable. I never has any experience with APE RR regarding its output w/o load but please check for error in RR. Please ask people here in xbhp who use APE RR to post measurements of the output voltage without load and compare. The battery can be checked at the final stage.

                            If you wish to double check the battery, take out the battery, charge the battery for a night/full day using any >12v1A DC adapter(best option is laptop charger, it produces decent amperage~3 or 4 at 19v only charge for few hours if you use this- 3~4hours) and after the battery is fully charged, connect a load(35/55w bulb) and measure the amperage and time. by this you can assess the health of the battery. saves arguments and headache with the dealer if there is no fault in the battery.

                            stator output raw ?? ------ didn't check as was worried that the multimeter would be spoilt..

                            rr output voltage without load ?? ------ as i mentioned earlier..
                            dude 35v is too less.
                            it was 35 volts when the coil was not properly re-winded.
                            i re-rewinded my coil with minimum 12-12.5 feet per pole and with exact no of turns on each and every pole...

                            now its giving 90 volts at higher revs...
                            remember its rr's output that i am talking about, without load... (without battery)

                            regarding battery, i would like to let you know that when my battery is already charged, it shows healthy voltages across the revv range..
                            for instance 12.6 at engine off
                            13.9 after starting the bike and revving

                            when my battery is almost dead, it doesn't charge well with this ape rr (current and previous setup)...
                            for instance 11.4 at engine off
                            11.4-11.5-11.6 max at higher revs..

                            rightly mentioned...
                            PLEASE people whoever have converted their bike to full dc, post your rr voltages, rr's output without any load, at so and so rpm,
                            do let me know red line output too...
                            would be very very helpful...

                            and its no big deal if its just an rr issue, i'll buy a new one..
                            anyways it doesn't have a warranty as much as i know..

                            1 more thing i strongly feel...
                            i think 9 amp battery is too much
                            guys do let me know that all you hid people, which battery are you using?
                            5 amp or 9 amp??

                            the reason i asked you this question is because, when i checked amps with my puny 2.5 amp battery it showed 7 amps pumping in (not properly re-winded coil)

                            but now 2.5 amp battery is history,
                            and this new battery can't show me amps..
                            i set the multimeter in amp mode and it ranges between 0.3 to 1.1 max...

                            i cross checked with my friend's 9 amp exide
                            it was same...

                            i double checked this with 9 amp battery's amps on a gs 150 r with everything stock, and the bike never started as the battery poles were not connected...

                            i think that a 2.5 amp battery if gets more than 2.5, will send as output.
                            but a 9 amp battery is not actually getting more than 9 amps, so its not showing!

                            correct me where i am wrong !!!
                            Giving a lot to a fiero.
                            Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                            • stator output raw ?? ------ didn't check as was worried that the multimeter would be spoilt..
                              Stator Output is AC; typically less than 200v max(depends on no. of turns), MM can read upto 750volts of AC
                              rr output voltage without load ?? ------ as i mentioned earlier..
                              dude 35v is too less.
                              it was 35 volts when the coil was not properly re-winded.
                              now its giving 90 volts at higher revs...
                              remember its rr's output that i am talking about, without load... (without battery)
                              Voltage has almost nothing to do with coil rewinding if the same no. of turns are rewinded as far as I know. Ive read somewhere that it is the guage of the wire that determines the current and the no. of turns that determine the voltage; the ignition coil is winded with very large no. of turns with a thin wire because ignition needs high voltage to produce spark and not high current.
                              The voltage at output of RR 35~90 indicates failure(regulation is not done). even if there is no load the voltage should not be that high. example if you take any DC adapter of 12v1A rating it gives 14~15 volts at no load and when load is connected it gives 12v. but 90v at no load to 13v at load.. naah(from my knowledge)




                              regarding battery, i would like to let you know that when my battery is already charged, it shows healthy voltages across the revv range..
                              for instance 12.6 at engine off
                              13.9 after starting the bike and revving

                              when my battery is almost dead, it doesn't charge well with this ape rr (current and previous setup)...
                              for instance 11.4 at engine off
                              11.4-11.5-11.6 max at higher revs..
                              So please takeoff your battery from bike and do as I said(laptop charger DC adapter etc

                              rightly mentioned...
                              PLEASE people whoever have converted their bike to full dc, post your rr voltages, rr's output without any load, at so and so rpm,
                              do let me know red line output too...
                              would be very very helpful...

                              and its no big deal if its just an rr issue, i'll buy a new one..
                              anyways it doesn't have a warranty as much as i know..

                              1 more thing i strongly feel...
                              i think 9 amp battery is too much
                              guys do let me know that all you hid people, which battery are you using?
                              5 amp or 9 amp??

                              the reason i asked you this question is because, when i checked amps with my puny 2.5 amp battery it showed 7 amps pumping in (not properly re-winded coil)
                              Battery is just for storage like an overhead watertank. no matter ur tank is half filled or filled upto the brim you get water from your tap(ofcourse the pressure drops depending up on the height, shape of the tank so dont worry.

                              but now 2.5 amp battery is history,
                              and this new battery can't show me amps..
                              i set the multimeter in amp mode and it ranges between 0.3 to 1.1 max...
                              so your old battery also got damaged by the high voltage from RR I think

                              i cross checked with my friend's 9 amp exide
                              it was same...what was same

                              i double checked this with 9 amp battery's amps on a gs 150 r with everything stock, and the bike never started as the battery poles were not connected...
                              Again please check your battery in the way I mentioned

                              i think that a 2.5 amp battery if gets more than 2.5, will send as output.
                              but a 9 amp battery is not actually getting more than 9 amps, so its not showing!
                              if more than 2.5 for a 2.5A is produced the unused current goesback to the coils/source after damaging the battery

                              correct me where i am wrong !!!
                              These are all my assumptions based on basic electronics and not bike electronics.

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                              • Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
                                yes -if you want to use one hid at a time.

                                no -if you want to use both hids at a time.
                                Why won't the battery support 35w X 2 HID's when you can have 35W X 3?? Or do u mean that using single HID will cause problem and dual won't cause problem.

                                Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                                doc.
                                okay i agree, but i want to know why...
                                its 12 feet per pole...

                                why not, is it falling short?
                                if in case i do need both on, what's the remedy??
                                Bro, I donno others experience but IMO your RR unit is not functioning as it is supposed to work. Without the load of battery also it is not supposed to cross 14v, that is the work of regulator.

                                Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
                                no dude,dont do it.
                                charging is low,dc wont help.if ride continuously your battery will down within a hour.
                                sorry punnet,you are wrong in this thing.
                                To my knowledge any DC ready bike can easily with stand 55/60w Halogen without any hassles. He can anyway remove the parking bulbs and replace them with LED's. There is no hard and fast rule that only a modded bike will take load of 55/60w. My Unicorn was a AC bike which I had converted to DC without any wiring mods, which could sustain the load for 3-4 hours even in B2B traffic conditions. So a DC bike will ofcourse have better charging ability. I have saw lots of FZ's, P150 UG4, ZMA, R15 running on 55/60w without any hassles.

                                Nano & Sandeep - Haven't read ur lengthy posts, if u have posted the same above then sorry for repeating.

                                Sajjit - My dual barrels are up but these rains Didn't let me click, nor even do the focusing.

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