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  • #16
    Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

    Originally posted by Pancham Hegishte View Post
    Mate, I just shared my experience as I have seen this leopard bag and have used Rynox for years. Leopard is a Knock-off of Rynox.
    This Leopard has no other product. They have just 1 product and it is EXACTLY the same as the Rynox Optimus bag. This is not taking inspiration. This is knocking off!
    Who are you to tell me to not talk about Viaterra? I am using Viaterra bag for 3 years and just like this leopard bag, I came across EMD which has copied Viaterra so I posted it here.
    And I have used Rynox in past, knock off copies of IXS designs.
    Can't trust a knock off brand like Rynox to make something original. Cheers mate !
    Rynox Storm is EXACTLY the same as IXIS jacket. This is knocking off !

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    • #17
      Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

      Guys, Lets not unnecessarily bash brands to satisfy our egos!
      As customers, we should look for the products that give us the best value for money. As far as this current thread is concerned, if you remove the leopard branding and the rynox branding from both their tankbags there is absolutely no difference in both the products. So much so that the colour of threads used at certain areas is exactly the same. As a customer i would probably refrain from buying a product thats a copy/ripoff. But then again i have not seen the bag so someone who likes the bag for the price can definitely go and buy as midnight has done so.

      We can also post reviews of the products that we buy. But i dont understand why we have to bash these brands and fight amongst ourselves. Judging a product basis of it being manufactured in china is crazy. Lets not forget that the entire world is manufactured in China. The keyboard that i am currently using to reply here is manufactured in china and the screen that you are using to read my reply is also manufactured in china!

      Just because having manufactured product in a factory in India doesnt make a product superior and similarly having it manufactured in a chinese factory does not make it inferior.

      Please remember that these brands are making products to make our lives safer and better. If you like the product you buy it.. but please dont fight amongst ourselves.

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      • #18
        Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

        Originally posted by madNS View Post
        Guys, Lets not unnecessarily bash brands to satisfy our egos!
        As customers, we should look for the products that give us the best value for money. As far as this current thread is concerned, if you remove the leopard branding and the rynox branding from both their tankbags there is absolutely no difference in both the products. So much so that the colour of threads used at certain areas is exactly the same. As a customer i would probably refrain from buying a product thats a copy/ripoff. But then again i have not seen the bag so someone who likes the bag for the price can definitely go and buy as midnight has done so.

        We can also post reviews of the products that we buy. But i dont understand why we have to bash these brands and fight amongst ourselves. Judging a product basis of it being manufactured in china is crazy. Lets not forget that the entire world is manufactured in China. The keyboard that i am currently using to reply here is manufactured in china and the screen that you are using to read my reply is also manufactured in china!

        Just because having manufactured product in a factory in India doesnt make a product superior and similarly having it manufactured in a chinese factory does not make it inferior.

        Please remember that these brands are making products to make our lives safer and better. If you like the product you buy it.. but please dont fight amongst ourselves.
        First, I never started the bashing. This was a review thread and I already published the bags look alike.

        Second, I never implied making in China reduces quality or anything like that, if you find me saying this, please prove it.

        Thirdly, you are right about brand bashing thing. I am not here to bash any brand, this is just a review of the bag I use.

        Lastly, I meant this design is from a Chinese bag manufacturer over AliExpress.

        Not looking for a boring brand bashing here.

        And about refraining from buying a look-alike, Rynox products viz jackets and pants look alike many international brands especially IXS, mere carbon copies. Still the customer buys what he wants. That is what I did with the tank bag. Simple as that.

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        • #19
          Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

          Originally posted by madNS View Post
          As a customer i would probably refrain from buying a product thats a copy/ripoff. But then again i have not seen the bag so someone who likes the bag for the price can definitely go and buy as midnight has done so.

          We can also post reviews of the products that we buy. But i dont understand why we have to bash these brands and fight amongst ourselves. Judging a product basis of it being manufactured in china is crazy. Lets not forget that the entire world is manufactured in China. The keyboard that i am currently using to reply here is manufactured in china and the screen that you are using to read my reply is also manufactured in china!

          Just because having manufactured product in a factory in India doesnt make a product superior and similarly having it manufactured in a chinese factory does not make it inferior.

          Please remember that these brands are making products to make our lives safer and better. If you like the product you buy it.. but please dont fight amongst ourselves.
          Exactly my point. All brands making good products and everyone should have a choice of opinion. I have been using Rynox Optimus and Viaterra Claw for 3 years saw this review and felt that people who read this review should also know about the fact that it is a rip off of the Rynox Optimus bag and also about other rips off products. After which they can choose to go for whatever they want.

          I don't know why midnight got IXS and other stuff which are not even relevant to this Leopard bag here. So the Rynox Storm jacket (I was not even aware of it), I just saw it on their website now and also the IXS jacket which resembles with Storm (as claimed by Midnight), but then there is a jacket by Revit and Dainese also which are similar too, so now IXS also copied from Revit and Revit from Dainese is it?
          That's what I meant by inspiration and ripping off! Even the thread color, the inner liner is the same and the features too (but not the quality)

          You can check for yourself, too and have your own conclusion.

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          • #20
            Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

            Originally posted by Pancham Hegishte View Post
            Exactly my point. All brands making good products and everyone should have a choice of opinion. I have been using Rynox Optimus and Viaterra Claw for 3 years saw this review and felt that people who read this review should also know about the fact that it is a rip off of the Rynox Optimus bag and also about other rips off products. After which they can choose to go for whatever they want.

            I don't know why midnight got IXS and other stuff which are not even relevant to this Leopard bag here. So the Rynox Storm jacket (I was not even aware of it), I just saw it on their website now and also the IXS jacket which resembles with Storm (as claimed by Midnight), but then there is a jacket by Revit and Dainese also which are similar too, so now IXS also copied from Revit and Revit from Dainese is it?
            That's what I meant by inspiration and ripping off! Even the thread color, the inner liner is the same and the features too (but not the quality)

            You can check for yourself, too and have your own conclusion.
            No time to entertain your parrot points anymore.
            It is not a ripoff product and I would stand to my claim. I own the bag and I know the quality very well.
            Yeah now pull Rev'it and Dainese to the talk since Rynox is inspired and others are copycats. 🤣
            Your argument is way too skewed mate.

            That design is a copy that rynox copied from chinese bags and leopard did the same jingle. Does it ring a bell ?
            Inner liner is red on most tank bags if you did not know this. Thread colour ? So you think they should have gone for a rather pink shade mate ?

            Quality is just great, I am using it and I know.
            Also, about quality, we know Rynox can't supply a decent back protector. We will talk about quality when it does.

            Nomore bickering please. You did not run your customer enlightenment agenda when Rynox claimed their sub 5000 jacket has cordura, which has long been changed.

            Bye

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            • #21
              Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

              Originally posted by Pancham Hegishte View Post
              I agree. One of my friends has also visited their factory for some repair work. They do own a factory.

              Rynox and Viaterra (I have both their products from past 3 years) and they both make superb products. Both of them take inspiration from design available in the foreign market eg: Claw is like the Giant Loop, Wolfman and many more. Similarly, Optimus is inspired by foreign brands too like Cortech, Touratech, etc. But that's only taking inspiration not copying.

              There is a difference between taking inspiration from another product and ripping off a product. I bought the Optimus bag years back and still using it.
              This Leopard and EMD guy has clearly ripped off Rynox products, even the place of the red line passing on the side is the same, logo placement, the inner elastic band, inner liner color (red). That is a rip off! No doubt about it. As I mentioned I have seen the product and the quality is not even close to the Original Optimus bag.

              I have used Rynox Optimus bag and Viaterra Claw for 3 years almost and the products are still holding up well even now and this one is nowhere close to the Optimus bag.
              True that. About this fellow. Read his past posts and you would clearly know his agenda to be on xbhp. Bashing Rynox and propagating Solace in particular.

              Having a conversation here is pointless, whatever facts you quote, he will deny and will never put across facts.

              While most of us have had experience with various brands some good some bad. This fellow seems to have had all his imaginary friends and himselves having only bad experience with Rynox and that too with all products. I hope you got my point.

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              • #22
                Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

                Originally posted by Astrix View Post
                True that. About this fellow. Read his past posts and you would clearly know his agenda to be on xbhp. Bashing Rynox and propagating Solace in particular.

                Having a conversation here is pointless, whatever facts you quote, he will deny and will never put across facts.

                While most of us have had experience with various brands some good some bad. This fellow seems to have had all his imaginary friends and himselves having only bad experience with Rynox and that too with all products. I hope you got my point.
                I can read your past history and see your Rynox agenda too.
                I am not biased and I repeat you can check any lab tests or internationally acclaimed magazines like Motardinn. Are they biased too ?
                Stop making lame arguments now.

                We clearly know you are biased to Rynox and you denied the facts. I also remember Rynox changing website information after I had arguments with you, everyone knows this.
                Imaginary friends ? 😂 Just like imaginary quality of Rynox ?

                If you do not know me, come visit Nainital, we shall meet and you shall come to know me better. Don't act smart around on a forum.
                And about bad experience, just open Google, type and search, not just my friends, many have had terrible experience with Rynox. Speaks volumes for the quality of that brand.

                And as I said, we will talk when Rynox can provide a decent back protector, maybe in 2025 ? 😂

                Also, I am here on xbhp since a much longer time than you, everyone knows what I do and what I have been doing.
                I do not stay only on riding gear threads and do propagation of brands like you do.

                Nomore arguments with someone who has denied facts in past too and Rynox had to change website information. I remember the last piece of debate I had with you. 😂
                Last edited by MidnightEvil Parth; 03-10-2018, 02:23 PM.

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                • #23
                  Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

                  Originally posted by MidnightEvil Parth View Post
                  I can read your past history and see your Rynox agenda too.
                  I am not biased and I repeat you can check any lab tests or internationally acclaimed magazines like Motardinn. Are they biased too ?
                  Stop making lame arguments now.

                  We clearly know you are biased to Rynox and you denied the facts. I also remember Rynox changing website information after I had arguments with you, everyone knows this.
                  Imaginary friends ? [emoji23] Just like imaginary quality of Rynox ?

                  If you do not know me, come visit Nainital, we shall meet and you shall come to know me better. Don't act smart around on a forum.
                  And about bad experience, just open Google, type and search, not just my friends, many have had terrible experience with Rynox. Speaks volumes for the quality of that brand.

                  And as I said, we will talk when Rynox can provide a decent back protector, maybe in 2025 ? [emoji23]

                  Also, I am here on xbhp since a much longer time than you, everyone knows what I do and what I have been doing.
                  I do not stay only on riding gear threads and do propagation of brands like you do.

                  Nomore arguments with someone who has denied facts in past too and Rynox had to change website information. I remember the last piece of debate I had with you. [emoji23]
                  Hey buddy. Just relax. This is just a review. Everyone have their own experiences.

                  I am more interested in learning what website information Rynox changed?

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                  • #24
                    Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

                    Originally posted by jatinpatel8 View Post
                    Hey buddy. Just relax. This is just a review. Everyone have their own experiences.

                    I am more interested in learning what website information Rynox changed?
                    They changed from Dupont cordura to it's real name. Invista.
                    Also, they had declared air gt uses cordura, which was changed to the fabric denier later.
                    Exactly sir this is a review and I had no idea how many people would hate me just for reviewing a product.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

                      Originally posted by MidnightEvil Parth View Post
                      They changed from Dupont cordura to it's real name. Invista.
                      Also, they had declared air gt uses cordura, which was changed to the fabric denier later.
                      Exactly sir this is a review and I had no idea how many people would hate me just for reviewing a product.
                      That's bad of Rynox really.

                      As they say there are always haters no matter what you do or say.[emoji52]

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                      • #26
                        Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

                        Originally posted by jatinpatel8 View Post
                        That's bad of Rynox really.

                        As they say there are always haters no matter what you do or say.[emoji52]
                        I do not hate Rynox on the other side. They are good, but bashing other brands for copying while you yourself copy things is a bad trade practice.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

                          Originally posted by jatinpatel8 View Post
                          That's bad of Rynox really.

                          As they say there are always haters no matter what you do or say.[emoji52]
                          They did not change any information. Basically Cordura is brand which was invented by Du Pont and then sold to Invista.

                          Rynox had mentioned Du Pont Cordura and now they mention Invista Cordura. The material still continues to be the same.
                          Calling Aishwarya Rai or (after marriage) Aishwarya rai Bacchan (Still the person is the same right)

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                          Originally posted by MidnightEvil Parth View Post
                          I do not hate Rynox on the other side. They are good, but bashing other brands for copying while you yourself copy things is a bad trade practice.
                          You don’t bash Rynox (for whatever agenda), really ?
                          Show me 1 past comment of yours talking good about Rynox and not convincing people to buy Solace over Rynox.
                          I can understand you promoting one product of Solace against a Rynox product. I also agree not all products by Rynox are good and that’s true with Solace too or any other brand for that matter.

                          But you seem to just blatantly promote every product of Solace as against every product of Rynox.

                          And you say, you are not a Rynox hater. Iol.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

                            Originally posted by Astrix View Post
                            They did not change any information. Basically Cordura is brand which was invented by Du Pont and then sold to Invista.

                            Rynox had mentioned Du Pont Cordura and now they mention Invista Cordura. The material still continues to be the same.
                            Calling Aishwarya Rai or (after marriage) Aishwarya rai Bacchan (Still the person is the same right)

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                            You don’t bash Rynox (for whatever agenda), really ?
                            Show me 1 past comment of yours talking good about Rynox and not convincing people to buy Solace over Rynox.
                            I can understand you promoting one product of Solace against a Rynox product. I also agree not all products by Rynox are good and that’s true with Solace too or any other brand for that matter.

                            But you seem to just blatantly promote every product of Solace as against every product of Rynox.

                            And you say, you are not a Rynox hater. Iol.
                            First about Cordura, rynox mentioned cordura on Air GT which is not the case. They use simple 600D polyester. Changing this matters. It is like saying Apache is Yamaha and Yamaha is Ducati. 😂😂

                            Every single post of yours promotes Rynox, mine doesn't promote Solace singly. Do check all my replies, I am here since a much longer time and also have added much more to the community than you.

                            Search it nicely, I had recommended Tornado Pro to quite a few people on forums. Go sit back and search into my replies.

                            I do not promote solace anyways, but yes I do promote sastec armour jackets, be it from ANY brand. They are clearly better than their counterparts.

                            I repeat, I am not a Rynox hater, nor a rynox fan. They make low quality products from my experience, why would I recommend them ? I simply won't.
                            I am done here.

                            Also, I don't need to convince people with a little knowledge to buy sastec over any other armour brand, they will do it themselves.

                            Again, TBG, Held, BMW, Klim, Scorpion EXO, Solace and a lot of other brands stick to sastec.

                            Also, Rynox can't even sell a knox back protector, so at last I have to buy a sastec to get a better protector for the back, so why not ditch knox and rynox altogether.

                            Lastly, chest protectors of sastec are also available in India. Why would I even recommend Rynox jackets or pants that sell foam / unbranded chest protectors on a mesh jacket 😂.

                            I find no reason in doing so.

                            You must have seen me recommending RE, Solace, TBG due to the same factor - SASTEC. If you can't get this, you won't get this.

                            Check my old posts though, I used to recommend Rynox when I was new to riding gears and had limited knowledge.

                            Cheers !

                            Also when it comes to Knox, I would recommend Leiidor over Rynox anyday. They have much better fit and finish and quality.

                            Have a nice day !
                            Last edited by MidnightEvil Parth; 03-10-2018, 06:18 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

                              Originally posted by jatinpatel8 View Post
                              That's bad of Rynox really.

                              As they say there are always haters no matter what you do or say.[emoji52]
                              Check Midnight’s last reply. I am sure you would have your answer. He has used all his “knowledge” to talk again about how Rynox is bad. And he does not bash brands. Hahaha

                              P.S: Earlier he said Du Pont to Invista and now he changed the material itself. As I say again, he will refrain from it.

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                              Originally posted by MidnightEvil Parth View Post
                              First about Cordura, rynox mentioned cordura on Air GT which is not the case. They use simple 600D polyester. Changing this matters. It is like saying Apache is Yamaha and Yamaha is Ducati. 😂😂

                              Every single post of yours promotes Rynox, mine doesn't promote Solace singly. Do check all my replies, I am here since a much longer time and also have added much more to the community than you.

                              Search it nicely, I had recommended Tornado Pro to quite a few people on forums. Go sit back and search into my replies.

                              I do not promote solace anyways, but yes I do promote sastec armour jackets, be it from ANY brand. They are clearly better than their counterparts.

                              I repeat, I am not a Rynox hater, nor a rynox fan. They make low quality products from my experience, why would I recommend them ? I simply won't.
                              I am done here.

                              Also, I don't need to convince people with a little knowledge to buy sastec over any other armour brand, they will do it themselves.

                              Again, TBG, Held, BMW, Klim, Scorpion EXO, Solace and a lot of other brands stick to sastec.

                              Also, Rynox can't even sell a knox back protector, so at last I have to buy a sastec to get a better protector for the back, so why not ditch knox and rynox altogether.

                              Lastly, chest protectors of sastec are also available in India. Why would I even recommend Rynox jackets or pants that sell foam / unbranded chest protectors on a mesh jacket 😂.

                              I find no reason in doing so.

                              You must have seen me recommending RE, Solace, TBG due to the same factor - SASTEC. If you can't get this, you won't get this.

                              Check my old posts though, I used to recommend Rynox when I was new to riding gears and had limited knowledge.

                              Cheers !

                              Also when it comes to Knox, I would recommend Leiidor over Rynox anyday. They have much better fit and finish and quality.

                              Have a nice day !
                              Your knowledge is too good.. hahahah.. its entertaining.

                              First you say Sastec over Knox and thus you recommend all Sastec brands then you say if I have to recommend Knox, I will still not recommend Rynox and some another lame ass thing.

                              Just for your knowledge, Rynox is the only brand on Knox’s website and God know what brand are you talking about using Knox. Anyway you just prove my point with every reply of yours. Hahaha

                              P.S: Sastec does not even pass all 4 test of CE approvals. They “officially” do not have T+ and T- of CE approval. While Knox Level 2 pass all these test. This is by lab reports and email by Sastec who themselves agreed. Please don’t force me to post that screen shot of Sastec again.

                              I still say Sastec back protector is a very good protector but not their should/elbow/knee protector (Just like I said earlier) and the reason is because they do not pass 2 test of CE approvals. (no assumptions or some magazine paid article) this is by lab report which is accepted by Sastec too.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Leopard Luggage tank bag review

                                Originally posted by Astrix View Post
                                Check Midnight’s last reply. I am sure you would have your answer. He has used all his “knowledge” to talk again about how Rynox is bad. And he does not bash brands. Hahaha

                                P.S: Earlier he said Du Pont to Invista and now he changed the material itself. As I say again, he will refrain from it.

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                                Your knowledge is too good.. hahahah.. its entertaining.

                                First you say Sastec over Knox and thus you recommend all Sastec brands then you say if I have to recommend Knox, I will still not recommend Rynox and some another lame ass thing.

                                Just for your knowledge, Rynox is the only brand on Knox’s website and God know what brand are you talking about using Knox. Anyway you just prove my point with every reply of yours. Hahaha

                                P.S: Sastec does not even pass all 4 test of CE approvals. They “officially” do not have T+ and T- of CE approval. While Knox Level 2 pass all these test. This is by lab reports and email by Sastec who themselves agreed. Please don’t force me to post that screen shot of Sastec again.

                                I still say Sastec back protector is a very good protector but not their should/elbow/knee protector (Just like I said earlier) and the reason is because they do not pass 2 test of CE approvals. (no assumptions or some magazine paid article) this is by lab report which is accepted by Sastec too.
                                😂 Amusing.
                                I don't need to say anything more. Keep picking Knox, I keep picking Sastec.
                                Sastec says the material used is same, the mail never said they fail the tests.

                                But at the end of the day, Knox supplies nothing microlock for the back here, no point buying it.

                                Also, I repeat, I said I will buy Leiidor since they are better on quality, as simple as that.
                                Do show me the T+ and T- markings on Knox shoulder and elbow protectors though, just wanting to see it. Nothing outrageous in asking for this.

                                Also, keep using knox haha. I bet they will fail in lab tests just like d3o did since they are end to end VPD armours, just like D3o.

                                Remember d3o also claims they are level 2.

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