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Using the same material does not count. The amount of material used to make a protector which adds to the thickness of the protectors also matters. This is the reason their shoulder and Elbow "are not officially certified" for the 2 test of CE approval. That is why they do not even mention it on their website.



Knox, on the other hand, is authentic Level 2 protectors which are certified to all 4 test of CE certification (unlike Sastec)
What "WILL" happen, we will talk about it when it happens. Beside's lab tests are you talking about? CE certifications lab tests show that Knox is certified for T+ and T- Level 2, while Sastec is not "officially certified" to these lab test of CE certification. So let's talk about what current lab reports say, rather than talking about your assumptions of what "WILL" happen.

I cannot stop you from choosing anything, you can choose whatever you like .

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I talked about independent lab tests, D3o also 'passed' CE level 2 but failed in most independent tests.
This was a 'will' happen situation.

Also, the thing is, sadly no one bothers about Knox.
Open YouTube, no one but knox is itself seen showing microlock. Open magazines, very few look at knox itself, let alone knox microlock. Open bigger YouTube channels like Fortnine, again, no one considers Knox. Sad reality.

Hopefully Microlock gets them the needed advantage of T+ and T-. Maybe in 2025.

Again, Rynox doesn't supply a microlock back protector for now, this is why, if I had the mood of picking Knox, it won't be a half baked product from Rynox. It would rather be a better brand or Knox itself. I am not interested in half baked products at all, that can't even be upgraded, I mean that's total dumb.

On one side you know Rynox doesn't supply microlock for back, on the other side you know only Rynox is lite plus supplier for Knox in India.

Makes me sad.

Also, I asked for CE badging with T+ and T- on Knox shoulder armour just to 'see' it. I did not ask for documentation. 😂
Must have the badging right ?

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d3o has some protectors which do not have t+ CE approval.

I am least bothered about when Knox will get the commercial advantage of T+ and T- or how many blogs or magazines cover it (which of course can be bought). Maybe they will when people know the truth about Sastec being "not officially certified" for these CE certification test.

The fact remains that Knox has both the certification T+ and T- and that is what will protect me/us, while Sastec does not.
Plain and simple. (Accept facts buddy)

Why Rynox does not sell Knox protectors, I am don't know. Even I wish Knox Microlock Back protector was available in India by Spartan or Rynox or whoever.

About Badging- Check it for yourself I don't have the protector, now. Its mentioned on their website. Go file a case against Knox, if you think a brand like Knox, who invented the 1st CE certified back protector way back in 1982 is lying on their global website- who has international clients like Indian Motorcycle, Triumph, etc. or rather accept the facts.

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I will still pick Sastec since I do not ride -20 temperatures or even +40. Plain and simple. They are easily available and they are lightweight.

Also I have done rides on snow as well as hot weather wearing sastec, never had any issues so far, not even in the feel of protectors.
Do you want me to do a crash test ? 😂

I also bought some safetech (Italian) protectors, let's see how it goes.

It snows often at my place, and nearby city Haldwani is too hot. I have sastecs sorted for me after using them for so long. Trust me my next will also be a sastec, also it will be a different brand just for trying it out.

Again, my Knox will be a full baked product or none.

They have the best impact protection only next to Forcefield armours. Nothing stops me from picking them.

I never said it doesn't have the badging or I do not trust it. But I really want to see it. That's the thing, why so sour 😂

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As I said again buddy, you have all the right to choose whatever you want and I will choose what I want.

I will always choose the Knox protectors over Sastec as they have all tests of CE certifications and would not want to risk it with Sastec as they are "not officially certified" to all CE tests.

I ride in temperatures around 40 half the time of the year. Also, the temperature on the inside where the protector is much higher than the temperature outside as our body heat adds up and thus using a Sastec protector without T+ certification can turn to be risky. So better that I go with a Knox T+ certified CE protector when I have that option available.

I will not refrain from using Sastec or any armor the day it is officially certified for all test of CE approval. But for now they do not, so its a big NO for me!

I pray that you never fall, especially over a small debate, buddy. Always have a safe ride

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I wish the same for you. Goodluck.

I would pick sastec for the immaculate impact protection, can sacrifice T+ and T- on elbow and shoulders even though I doubt it fails.

I haven't seen mine get harder on snow .

Cheers !

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I will rather choose the Knox, why sacrifice on any CE certification tests buddy by choosing Sastec. CE tests are the authenticity of protectors standards.
Why sacrifice it, when you have the option of Knox protectors which are available here and have passed all CE certified tests. You doubt it may or may not fails, so why even have that doubt and not go by what has been proven for Knox by proper CE certification.

To each his own, though.
Ride Safe

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I do not have the option really.
I can only get Shoulder or elbow and for that too, I will have to buy a whole jacket. No point for me.

Also I don't doubt it anyways, I prefer sastec.

To each his own. Ride safe. !

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I just wasted 20 mins reading you guys fight. All I wanted was a decent comparo between the LEOPARD v OPTIMUS M.

I don't care who it's copied from. Does it match the standards of the Optimus M?

What warranty do these guys offer?

They only have a FB and Instagram page. Do they even have a website?