KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

[Divya Sharan]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

Now come to think of it what do the buyers of the RS have to lose, they get same bike which looks different, but performs same as the RC, has bigger tank and has ABS at lesser price. They will be mocking at the RC owners. We spent more money for not much.

You're crying simply for no reason! Sell your RC and book this bike if you want!

But before that; ride them back to back to know the difference.
This bike was showcased in the Auto Expo, way before RC came out. You should have waited!

[Ishaan.humble]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

So Now gents, look at this
Engine Displacement: 199.5 CC on both bikes
Power: 23.2 bhp @ 9500 rpm on the RS, 24.7 bhp @ 10000 rpm on the RC. Power comes in early on the RS makes it better on the city runs
Torque: 1.9 kgm @ 8000 rpm on the RS, 1.9 kgm @ 8000 rpm on the RC - Exactly the same
Brakes: RS 200 gets 300mm petal disc brake, RC 200 gets a 280mm rotor
Lights: Dual Projectors on both
Suspension: Same

The only thing that nags me is that there is abs in the rs200 otherwise i am happy from my machine.
Also it is certain that everyone who will buy rs200 will always feel inferior when standing besides the RC. Also the riding position on rs200 is pretty much similar to 200ns which is nowhere as dedicated as the RC. The tires it wears are also inferior.
Also however the good RS200 is, it possibly cant match the cornering dynamics of the RC and since its a bajaj it will come factory loaded with problems.

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[Divya Sharan]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

The only thing that nags me is that there is abs in the rs200 otherwise i am happy from my machine.
Also it is certain that everyone who will buy rs200 will always feel inferior when standing besides the RC. Also the riding position on rs200 is pretty much similar to 200ns which is nowhere as dedicated as the RC. The tires it wears are also inferior.
Also however the good RS200 is, it possibly cant match the cornering dynamics of the RC and since its a bajaj it will come factory loaded with problems.

Exactly what I'm saying except the bold part. RC is made by the same folk. With time BAL's QC has improved and it would only better with more products.

[shabi.h]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

The only thing that nags me is that there is abs in the rs200 otherwise i am happy from my machine.
Also it is certain that everyone who will buy rs200 will always feel inferior when standing besides the RC. Also the riding position on rs200 is pretty much similar to 200ns which is nowhere as dedicated as the RC. The tires it wears are also inferior.
Also however the good RS200 is, it possibly cant match the cornering dynamics of the RC and since its a bajaj it will come factory loaded with problems.

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Haha factory loaded with problem . Look I know in character it will always be an inferior bike than the RC, just that I am baffled with why did they not include ABS in a bike which is more expensive.

[Divya Sharan]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

Haha factory loaded with problem . Look I know in character it will always be an inferior bike than the RC, just that I am baffled with why did they not include ABS in a bike which is more expensive.

Yeah, this is the ONLY sore point!
But, RS200 only has a single channel ABS. That means, ABS controls only the front wheel. I'd not prefer that any day. Either, full ABS or no ABS.

[mindless_wanderer]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

The only thing that nags me is that there is abs in the rs200 otherwise i am happy from my machine.
Also it is certain that everyone who will buy rs200 will always feel inferior when standing besides the RC. Also the riding position on rs200 is pretty much similar to 200ns which is nowhere as dedicated as the RC. The tires it wears are also inferior.
Also however the good RS200 is, it possibly cant match the cornering dynamics of the RC and since its a bajaj it will come factory loaded with problems.

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I dont think its about feeling inferior.. RS cant match RC on almost all the fronts (except for the ABS).. accepted.. but then you spent a good 40k less then the RC too.. Also, mostly RC is a track bike.. whereas the RS is a city commuter (best usage) and decent for touring too maybe.. and that is what bajaj is targeting..
i think the only pinch point is the ABS in a cheaper bike like you rightly mentioned..

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But, RS200 only has a single channel ABS. That means, ABS controls only the front wheel. I'd not prefer that any day. Either, full ABS or no ABS.

The high res pics of the RS shows the rear and front discs having the notches (found in ABS activated discs).. what am i missing here?

[Ishaan.humble]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

Haha factory loaded with problem . Look I know in character it will always be an inferior bike than the RC, just that I am baffled with why did they not include ABS in a bike which is more expensive.

That is one thing that even i"ve been put off since its launch but since we can do nothing about the fact so i've learnt to live with it.
Also brakes on rc200 are pretty potent even with the absence of abs. But this is only to console ourselves and hawever potent the brakes are, abs always comes a step ahead in breaking!
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[Ishaan.humble]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

Yeah, this is the ONLY sore point!
But, RS200 only has a single channel ABS. That means, ABS controls only the front wheel. I'd not prefer that any day. Either, full ABS or no ABS.

But since we need maximum braking force on the front wheel only, so why is there a problem with single cannel abs?

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[Anuj_Gupta]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

But since we need maximum braking force on the front wheel only, so why is there a problem with single cannel abs?

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People (except in curvy roads or while turning ) are generally good enough to use front . However in panic situation, it's the rear disc brake padel (talking about good bikes ) ,that gets the hit, leading to locking of rear tyre(concept of motion) and resulting in fishtailing or absolute loss of traction.
Front tyre slip is more dangerous than rear one ,but rear tyre slip occurs dozen times more than front one.


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[joe_marvy]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

The first look on SS 200 (RS now) at the Auto Expo, I decided this is not my piece of cake any day. But the first look of RC at 2013 EICMA pulled my strings. No matter the equipments loaded with the bike, not the VFM factors it comes with, it should pull the right strings. If RC is what you loved and waited for, why worry about others?

[Divya Sharan]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

But since we need maximum braking force on the front wheel only, so why is there a problem with single cannel abs?

P.S - People who have seen the bike (RS200) in person claim to have seen ABS calibrations on the rear disc too, but Bajaj website says it's a single channel.
Yes, most of the braking power is from the front, but what if I slam the rear in panic?

BTW, we're going highly OT. Lets keep all discussions in the intended thread.

[KayKashyap]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

i was behind pulsar 200 SS since the auto expo,but as i saw it clearer,i felt the fairing looked ugly, and even if it has abs,it wouldn't change anything,so i waited,increased my budget,purchased RC200,i couldnt be more happier!!!

[Ajay Vishwanath]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

I feel it too, I like the looks of the RS, but I love my RC.. Its heart capturing and head turning.. BTW, talking about cheaper bikes having ABS, CBR250 repsol (same as RC) has ABS, Kawasaki Ninja 300 doesn't have ABS, TVS Apache has ABS, we didn't say anything.. Why pulsar? Let's chill and stay OT (on topic)..

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[rcboy]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

So Now gents, look at this
Engine Displacement: 199.5 CC on both bikes
Power: 23.2 bhp @ 9500 rpm on the RS, 24.7 bhp @ 10000 rpm on the RC. Power comes in early on the RS makes it better on the city runs
Torque: 1.9 kgm @ 8000 rpm on the RS, 1.9 kgm @ 8000 rpm on the RC - Exactly the same
Brakes: RS 200 gets 300mm petal disc brake, RC 200 gets a 280mm rotor
Lights: Dual Projectors on both
Suspension: Same

And as for the Duke and NS comparison, they released the bikes almost at the same time and hence buyers had a choice to differentiate on the basis of looks, riding stance and better engine.

The RC and RS are set apart only in the looks and the character, RC being more track focused and RS being commuter and everyday use machine. Hell RS also gets ABS. Why the hell does the same manufacturer not provide better electronics/features on a bike which costs more than the other one and comes from the same stable. Bajaj released the RC in September last year so that the first movers will jump on the opportunity to get their hands on the mean looking bike. They waited for sales to go up for the RC, when it reached its decent point, they have launched the RS.

Now come to think of it what do the buyers of the RS have to lose, they get same bike which looks different, but performs same as the RC, has bigger tank and has ABS at lesser price. They will be mocking at the RC owners. We spent more money for not much.

ok so have you considered 23.2 bhp on a 155appx kg bike and 24.7 bhp 130appx kg ..the power to weight ratio (the very essence of duke and rc series )
is just to different......also wp suspension and the brilliant chasis puts rc in a different league and the committed stance that rc offers truly talks about how much the bike can deliver only if you have it in you to extract it
simply speaking ktm has launched little pocket rockets that make you smile and make you feel like a kid ..rev happy
bajaj on the other is a company making products to captur max chunk of the market also there bike fall apart after 3-4 years if ridden like they are meant to be..

i mean i own a rc and i dont mollycoddle it ....i start my engine let it warm up ride slow for 20min or to let the brake and clutch temp reach up and then i extract as much out of the engine rc series is never marketed as a commuter (we obviously do use it in that sense) but thats not that bike
owners joy. have you thrown rc in a corner it is so planted it is so "with it"..

any how that was my rant and my half assed knowledge feeel free to attack the post ..but man rc all the way

also i really take good care of my rc i dont indulge in hooligan behaviour i obey traffic laws but there always roads that are deserted and brilliant to push your bike on

[akhilash95]

re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

I don't understand why you rc owners are ranting about RS200. RC200 has by far the best front brakes-feel n modulation compared to any other bike in this class. They are just fantastic if you know how to use them. Heck you can you can even stoppie the bike everytime, its so good and this is coming from a d390/r15 user. ABS gives a spongy, disconnected feel on the D390 Compared to the sharp feel of RC200.

ABS doesn't not effectively reduce braking distance, but only prevents you from locking up. With good modulation you can stop in a shorter distance without abs.

Regarding the pricing, you get upside down WP forks, radially mounted brake callipers, full digital MID, no nonsense single spark well built motor and a better looking motorcycle.

Ultimately you get what you pay for and the parts quality will also depend on it.

You cant compare R15 to similar power making apache,pulsars because not just looks but also delivery so much better than them especially in the twisties. Apache abs has more power n abs than R15 but that didn't stop people from buying the more pricier R15, did it? Power figures on paper is pretty different from what you experience on the road.
PS- I know abs is a good safety feature, but keeping your cool n good brake modulation is far more important.