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  • [Ownership Thread]: Hero XPulse 200

    Hello Guys,

    I recollected that my last post in xBhp was exactly a decade back. Apologies for silently watching and not contributing anything from my side. But I think now I have a reason to contribute in the form of an ownership experience. Seems that none of them have shared any dedicated ownership review on Hero's XPulse 200 yet, so let me start.

    My background:
    I have been riding motorbikes for more than 2 decades now. First one being RX 100. Owned many good bikes from RXZ 5 Speed/ Suzuki Fiero/ Bullet Electra 5s/ Yezdi/ Unicorn/ Giixxer... and many inbetween.

    The Story:
    I was looking for commuter bike for my daily use from home to office about 40 kms everyday. The idea of off-road motorcycle from Hero caught my attention as I haven't owned anything similar. And I though it was the perfect bike to use as city bike in Bangalore, where almost every road is an off-road. All this while all my bikes are mostly Japs, and owning a bike from Hero stable especially after Hero and Honda parting their ways was something which took time to convince myself.

    Visited Hero showroom after its launch and got to know test ride bikes not available. After few visits, finally the demo bike arrived at Sai Motors, Banashankari and took a test ride. A great change what I found was the bike was given to myself, to take it for a ride without sales person accompanying me. Initial impressions was satisfied and I wanted to book the bike. FI version was on waiting period, but carb version was available within 4 days. So, just went ahead and booked the carb version.

    Booking process was smooth. Sales person, Manager, everyone are very easy to approach and things are very straight forward when compared with Honda and Suzuki dealer experience. And I got the delivery as promised within 4 days.

    Brief Review:
    I got the bike about a month back. I have completed the first service and done about 1000 Kms.

    Everyone starts with a positive points, let me start with the "Negatives"..
    The first batch of XPulses came with few issues from the factory itself.

    > Within 2 weeks, about 200kms. There was noise from the engine when it gets hot. It seems the valve clearance and tappets are not adjusted properly.
    > Mine had another issue, it was making sound at idling (tik tik tik) even during cold start. I knew for sure this is not normal. When I complained about this they said it will be rectified in the first service. I was scared as this sound resembles the noise coming from a worn out piston rings. Fortunately during the first service, they identified the problem and adjusted the tensioner. Now I do not hear that sound.
    > Gearbox was bloody hard. I had to literally kick the gear lever to change the gears. After the first service, it is better. But still no where close to Honda or Suzuki. Still am having issues in slotting from 3rd to 2nd gear. It will slip only after releasing the clutch making katak sound.
    > Seat is terrible, period. There is no way this seat is designed for a comfort ride. I rode for 30kms in a single stretch and my ass got numb. The quality of the foam and thickness of the seat just does not suit for commute. May be designed for Off-road in mind, so one can sit after getting tired of standing and riding.
    > The rim spoke ends started to rust. Good thing is before me identifying it, Hero service guy called up and said about the problem and promised to replace soon. Eventually the whole wheel assembly was replaced during my first service.
    > Lot of vibration creeps in after crossing 6000 rpm. I am told the engine has to still run-in.
    > The Front brake lever gets hard when ABS gets active, I noticed when I brake in the bumps and potholes.
    > The max speed one can cruise is 85kmph. Anything more will stress themselves and the bike.
    > Short riders will not be happy to use in stop and go traffic.


    Now, coming to "Positives"..

    > The price for the package this bike offers is fantastic.
    > The riding position, comfort and handling is great
    > Build quality is great, nothing feels that will fall off
    > Quality of switch gear, speedo console, equipment are great
    > Tyres offer lot of grip and confidence in cornering and wet surfaces.
    > Suspension is great. But, the factory setting might not suit everyone. Also proper tyre pressure makes lot of difference. For my weight I have kept 24psi front/ 32psi rear. Factory recommendation is hard for me.
    > 5 Free Services, and 5 year Standard warranty is fantastic
    > My first service costed me around Rs.400 bucks, the last I remember was paying the same thing for a moped back in the days.
    > Crash guard and bash plate as standard accessory (a plastic in carb is very bad thou)

    For now, there is lot of discussion within Xpulse owners group regarding the engine clattering and vibrations that has been complained to Hero. Lets see how things turn out.

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    Cheers.
    Last edited by xBhp; 08-08-2019, 10:25 AM.

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    Re: Hero XPulse 200

    Thread approved.

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    • #3
      Re: Hero XPulse 200

      Waiting for this... Congrats RBK. I have an eye for this bike.

      I was a Rx135 5 speed rider so far. I have a back pain issue. So thought of buying some good suspension bike. Himalayan is out of my budget. There it come xpulse. Started liking this after seeing the videos in youtube. I am from chennai. Still RTO yet to approve here. I hope the initial problems of the bikes will not there now it seems.

      Is there anything can be done for the seat? Thanks.
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      • #4
        Re: Hero XPulse 200

        The fi version isn't as noisy as the carb during idling.

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        • #5
          Re: Hero XPulse 200

          From BS3 onwards, both honda and hero bikes take a lot of km to run in properly. 5k km in case of cbz/hunk/karizma/hornet and upto 15k km for splendor/passion. During this period they vibrate a lot and feel super stressed in top end. Once they cross 10-15k on odo they become butter smooth and feel lively near top end. Hero is still following honda methodologies in engine design and manufacturing. Xpulse is no different. Bikes from other brands run-in in 1.5-2k km but will never provide the engine-gearbox refinement of hero and honda.

          P. S- After the free services, change the engine oil to veedol/motul 10w30. Refinement will definitely increase. The hero genuine oil does the job but is really average in terms of smoothness. Use only 10w30 or 10w40 grade.

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          • #6
            Re: Hero XPulse 200

            Originally posted by RBK View Post
            I recollected that my last post in xBhp was exactly a decade back. Apologies for silently watching and not contributing anything from my side. But I think now I have a reason to contribute in the form of an ownership experience. Seems that none of them have shared any dedicated ownership review on Hero's XPulse 200 yet, so let me start.
            Your bike looks absolutely nice in Red.

            How is the LED Headlamp throw at night? Is it more convenient or okay for highway drive?

            Did you test drive the Hero Xpulse 200t before taking the delivery of the Xpulse 200?

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            • #7
              Re: Hero XPulse 200

              Originally posted by MotoMan View Post
              From BS3 onwards, both honda and hero bikes take a lot of km to run in properly. 5k km in case of cbz/hunk/karizma/hornet and upto 15k km for splendor/passion. During this period they vibrate a lot and feel super stressed in top end. Once they cross 10-15k on odo they become butter smooth and feel lively near top end. Hero is still following honda methodologies in engine design and manufacturing. Xpulse is no different. Bikes from other brands run-in in 1.5-2k km but will never provide the engine-gearbox refinement of hero and honda.

              P. S- After the free services, change the engine oil to veedol/motul 10w30. Refinement will definitely increase. The hero genuine oil does the job but is really average in terms of smoothness. Use only 10w30 or 10w40 grade.
              15K for break in , really, and the level of refinement is not what it used to be a decade back, and honda gearboxes are pigs when it comes to downshifting, (shine ,classic cbz and zma)
              Kawasaki KB100/enduro/125 substitute parts list http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/508615-post105.html

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                Re: Hero XPulse 200

                Originally posted by kb100 View Post
                15K for break in , really, and the level of refinement is not what it used to be a decade back, and honda gearboxes are pigs when it comes to downshifting, (shine ,classic cbz and zma)
                15k is for splendor/passion. I've experienced it. Cbz/hunk/hornet require 5k km for opening up. This topic has been discussed in the splendor and cbz xtreme threads.

                All honda/hero gearboxes are initially hard but gradually become slick. Never ridden a classic cbz though so won't comment on that.

                Xpulse's engine is based on the unicorn engine. A long term review will provide better picture of refinement.

                Edit- older bikes ( pre 2010, HH or any make) run on lower compression, have non cat free flow exhausts and mostly run on 20w oils. Post 2010 (bs3) bikes run on higher compression, have catcon, are heavier and run on 10w oils. Older bikes are obviously more refined but new bikes are considerably faster. My 120kg passion pro does 0-60 in 8 sec. CbzX is much faster than classic cbz. So it's not logical to compare them.
                Last edited by MotoMan; 08-10-2019, 09:44 PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: Hero XPulse 200

                  Originally posted by MotoMan View Post
                  15k is for splendor/passion. I've experienced it. Cbz/hunk/hornet require 5k km for opening up. This topic has been discussed in the splendor and cbz xtreme threads.

                  All honda/hero gearboxes are initially hard but gradually become slick. Never ridden a classic cbz though so won't comment on that.

                  Xpulse's engine is based on the unicorn engine. A long term review will provide better picture of refinement.

                  Edit- older bikes ( pre 2010, HH or any make) run on lower compression, have non cat free flow exhausts and mostly run on 20w oils. Post 2010 (bs3) bikes run on higher compression, have catcon, are heavier and run on 10w oils. Older bikes are obviously more refined but new bikes are considerably faster. My 120kg passion pro does 0-60 in 8 sec. CbzX is much faster than classic cbz. So it's not logical to compare them.
                  You're 100 % right. I have experienced it in my 2018 Hornet, engine has become very smooth from 5k kilometers .

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                  • #10
                    Re: Hero XPulse 200

                    Originally posted by MotoMan View Post
                    From BS3 onwards, both honda and hero bikes take a lot of km to run in properly. 5k km in case of cbz/hunk/karizma/hornet and upto 15k km for splendor/passion. During this period they vibrate a lot and feel super stressed in top end. Once they cross 10-15k on odo they become butter smooth and feel lively near top end. Hero is still following honda methodologies in engine design and manufacturing. Xpulse is no different. Bikes from other brands run-in in 1.5-2k km but will never provide the engine-gearbox refinement of hero and honda.

                    P. S- After the free services, change the engine oil to veedol/motul 10w30. Refinement will definitely increase. The hero genuine oil does the job but is really average in terms of smoothness. Use only 10w30 or 10w40 grade.
                    Am really not sure, 10K kms for the engine run-in?! The currently technology and metallurgy used to manufacture engines is way ahead and not like old process. For a 150/200cc motor these run-ins should be minimal. Any how, shall wait and see if it improves going ahead.

                    Originally posted by Mithran View Post
                    Your bike looks absolutely nice in Red.

                    How is the LED Headlamp throw at night? Is it more convenient or okay for highway drive?

                    Did you test drive the Hero Xpulse 200t before taking the delivery of the Xpulse 200?
                    LED Headlamp is just OK for the city. Low beam is always ON. I feel switching on high beam some times inside the city itself. No way these can be used for highways. An auxiliary set of lights is a must to venture out in trails.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Hero XPulse 200

                      Originally posted by MotoMan View Post
                      15k is for splendor/passion. I've experienced it. Cbz/hunk/hornet require 5k km for opening up. This topic has been discussed in the splendor and cbz xtreme threads.

                      All honda/hero gearboxes are initially hard but gradually become slick. Never ridden a classic cbz though so won't comment on that.

                      Xpulse's engine is based on the unicorn engine. A long term review will provide better picture of refinement.

                      Edit- older bikes ( pre 2010, HH or any make) run on lower compression, have non cat free flow exhausts and mostly run on 20w oils. Post 2010 (bs3) bikes run on higher compression, have catcon, are heavier and run on 10w oils. Older bikes are obviously more refined but new bikes are considerably faster. My 120kg passion pro does 0-60 in 8 sec. CbzX is much faster than classic cbz. So it's not logical to compare them.
                      all herohonda bikes post 2000 came with catalytic convertor and ais, and the speed difference between the old models and new ones are nothing to write home
                      Kawasaki KB100/enduro/125 substitute parts list http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/508615-post105.html

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                      • #12
                        Re: Hero XPulse 200

                        [MENTION=22895]RBK[/MENTION] I am saying it from experience.
                        A long term review from your side would be very helpful.
                        [MENTION=26930]kb100[/MENTION] only bs3 and bs4 spec herohonda bikes have catcon.

                        The 2000-2009 mdl or euro2 splendor/splendor+ is non-cat. Has a true top speed of 100+kph without any vibration and runs on a compression ratio of 8.8:1. My bs3 passion pro doesn't cross 90 kph but is a lot quicker to reach there. The case is same with classic cbz and cbzX. But due to overall restrictions, the newer bikes will feel harsh near their limits.
                        Add to that here's a list of compression ratio's,

                        Splendor+ i3s 100cc- 9.9:1
                        Splendor ismart 110- 10:1
                        Xpulse200- 10:1
                        Hornet 160r- 10:1
                        Apache rtr200 9.7:1
                        Pulsar 150- 9.5:1

                        All the above data is of 2k19 models. You can see that even a commuter bike from hero runs on higher compression than it's peers.

                        All new hero engines are not entirely new. Hero has bought complete rights to the 100,125,150, 102( old activa/ pleasure) and 223cc honda engines. Hero has practically and logically used honda engines as the base for developing the new engines. Also the bs3/bs4 bore kits for hero and honda are way more expensive than bs2 kits.

                        I am ending this topic right here. It's just what I've experienced in recent years.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Hero XPulse 200

                          Originally posted by MotoMan View Post
                          @RBK I am saying it from experience.
                          A long term review from your side would be very helpful.
                          @kb100 only bs3 and bs4 spec herohonda bikes have catcon.

                          The 2000-2009 mdl or euro2 splendor/splendor+ is non-cat. Has a true top speed of 100+kph without any vibration and runs on a compression ratio of 8.8:1. My bs3 passion pro doesn't cross 90 kph but is a lot quicker to reach there. The case is same with classic cbz and cbzX. But due to overall restrictions, the newer bikes will feel harsh near their limits.
                          Add to that here's a list of compression ratio's,

                          Splendor+ i3s 100cc- 9.9:1
                          Splendor ismart 110- 10:1
                          Xpulse200- 10:1
                          Hornet 160r- 10:1
                          Apache rtr200 9.7:1
                          Pulsar 150- 9.5:1

                          All the above data is of 2k19 models. You can see that even a commuter bike from hero runs on higher compression than it's peers.

                          All new hero engines are not entirely new. Hero has bought complete rights to the 100,125,150, 102( old activa/ pleasure) and 223cc honda engines. Hero has practically and logically used honda engines as the base for developing the new engines. Also the bs3/bs4 bore kits for hero and honda are way more expensive than bs2 kits.

                          I am ending this topic right here. It's just what I've experienced in recent years.
                          who asked you anything about compression ratios anyway, and i dont know where you get your information from , the post 2000 hero hondas came with cats, i can vividly remember a small green sticker on the rear fender of the splendors and a similar one on the heat shields of cbzs warning of the vehicle being euro2/bharat 2000 emissions norms compliant and of the presence of catcon , and not to use leaded fuel
                          Kawasaki KB100/enduro/125 substitute parts list http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/508615-post105.html

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                          • #14
                            Re: Hero XPulse 200

                            Originally posted by kb100 View Post
                            who asked you anything about compression ratios anyway, and i dont know where you get your information from , the post 2000 hero hondas came with cats, i can vividly remember a small green sticker on the rear fender of the splendors and a similar one on the heat shields of cbzs warning of the vehicle being euro2/bharat 2000 emissions norms compliant and of the presence of catcon , and not to use leaded fuel
                            This. My dad's 2000 CD-100SS (sold) came with a Cat Exhaust. His 1994 CD-100 retains a non-cat till date. AFAIK, only some of the 2000 Splendors and earlier models came with non-cat. Post BS2 and henceforth, all are cat models having 9:1 ratio. Post 2010 or so, they bumped the same 100cc engine to produce 8.24bhp and increased compression by 0.9 making it 9.9:1. This post 2010 engine at first was offered on Splendor and Passion Pro and now being offered on all 100cc Hero bikes. Only difference is the BSIV adjustments. The top speed thing isn't related to engine itself. It's about the true console indications. You can use a non contact type speed gauge to measure it in actual. 80kmph is the highest this engine will make before stressing off like hell. The old meters showed this as 90km/hr. But the true top speed has been always around 80. Power delivery has been tampered with BSIII bikes and tuning has been adjusted. Post BSII, lighter pistons were used, affecting with the insane torque which people mistake for more power. Initial is the only good thing about old HH bikes.
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                              Re: Hero XPulse 200

                              Originally posted by kb100 View Post
                              who askcbz.. you anything about compression ratios anyway, and i dont know where you get your information from , the post 2000 hero hondas came with cats, i can vividly remember a small green sticker on the rear fender of the splendors and a similar one on the heat shields of cbzs warning of the vehicle being euro2/bharat 2000 emissions norms compliant and of the presence of catcon , and not to use leaded fuel
                              Man, it's a public forum and I can post my knowledge. You can get all the info on the websites of the respective manufacturers. There a new website called hgpmart.com. There it is clearly mentioned that non-cat mufflers were used for 100cc bikes until 2009. There's a whooping 3000rs difference in the price of catcon and non cat mufflers. Bs3 norms were introduced in 2010 only.

                              Regarding cbz, I only said that cbzX is faster than classic cbz.
                              Last edited by MotoMan; 08-14-2019, 12:33 AM.

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