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  • Here comes the MotoGP poop.

    interesting facts about MotoGp's first race this year carried out by crash.net.

    Monday's season-opening Qatar night race was the first event of the single-tyre MotoGP era, with all 18 riders offered the same limited range of tyres for the first time.

    As well as reducing costs, it was hoped that the move would make the racing closer, after two seasons dominated by drawn-out runaway wins since the switch to 800cc engines.

    However despite having the same tyres available to all, and satellite teams getting machinery closer to factory spec (all the Honda and Yamaha teams now have pneumatic-valve engines for example) this year's Qatar Grand Prix saw the leaders break away even further than before, with a knock on effect throughout the field.

    Casey Stoner had to fight his way back from a bad start to win in 2008, but led the 2009 race from start to finish. Both seasons saw 17 riders reach the finish.

    Victory margin: 5.323sec (2008) - 7.771sec (2009)
    Podium margin: 10.600sec (2008) - 16.244sec (2009)
    Top 6: 14.040sec (2008) - 29.883sec (2009)
    Top 10: 38.354sec (2008) - 42.284sec (2009)
    Top 15: 58.930sec (2008) - 1min 0.286sec (2009)
    1st to 17th (last): 1 lap* (2008) - 1min 15.028 (2009)

    Yarn.....

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    • Originally posted by soulstation View Post
      Here comes the MotoGP poop.

      interesting facts about MotoGp's first race this year carried out by crash.net.

      Monday's season-opening Qatar night race was the first event of the single-tyre MotoGP era, with all 18 riders offered the same limited range of tyres for the first time.

      As well as reducing costs, it was hoped that the move would make the racing closer, after two seasons dominated by drawn-out runaway wins since the switch to 800cc engines.

      However despite having the same tyres available to all, and satellite teams getting machinery closer to factory spec (all the Honda and Yamaha teams now have pneumatic-valve engines for example) this year's Qatar Grand Prix saw the leaders break away even further than before, with a knock on effect throughout the field.

      Casey Stoner had to fight his way back from a bad start to win in 2008, but led the 2009 race from start to finish. Both seasons saw 17 riders reach the finish.

      Victory margin: 5.323sec (2008) - 7.771sec (2009)
      Podium margin: 10.600sec (2008) - 16.244sec (2009)
      Top 6: 14.040sec (2008) - 29.883sec (2009)
      Top 10: 38.354sec (2008) - 42.284sec (2009)
      Top 15: 58.930sec (2008) - 1min 0.286sec (2009)
      1st to 17th (last): 1 lap* (2008) - 1min 15.028 (2009)

      Yarn.....
      Its only the first race yet! Moreover teams and racers are still adapting to the shorter practice time from this year on, so once everyone's in the rhythm by next couple races, we can definitely see closer races! Along with that, since many were on Michelins till last year, it will also take time for them to adopt to the Bridgestones tyres, right?

      So let's not expect close races so early
      Last edited by 46 the Greatest ever; 04-17-2009, 12:40 AM.

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      • Originally posted by 46 the Greatest ever View Post
        why couldn't u post it a bit earlier, u know what I mean Suren, u should go through it buddy!
        Buddy those links say how they worked out fr the setup of the bike with the Bridgestones !...Moving the engine has now even come with street bikes ..Weight transfer , swing arm length , rake ,trail etc all adjustments are a part of Setup ! What development do u find here?

        I feel development is something where new innovation and designs are tried out in which the rider and the team work together to get the best power n handling n speed ! and setup is somethin to make it work perfectly ! Switch to Bridgestone just made rossi to work for the perfect setup and nothin says Rossi did the hardwork to improve the engine !!

        And as i said in my earlier post ! the link says the same ! Rossi found the perfect setup only at shangai the fourth round in 2007 .
        BAYLISSTIC !!!!

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        • @Suren: Thanks for telling me what development is all about!!! And I thought finding a perfect setup is also a part of a bike's development! It can make or break ur championship hopes!

          I think Rossi should extend his personal thanks to Edwards without whom he would have never won the 2008 title! What would he do without Edwards, eh!!!

          And you carefully avoided the comments in one of my previous posts where I mentioned that even the renowned MotoGP journalists and commentators like Nick Harris, Mat Oxley etc. share my point of view when they many a times say that how much Rossi, Jeremy Burgess and their team have worked hard on M1's development. Sure you didn't have anything to counter that! And I am sure these guys know much more about who is doing how much for his bike's development, right?

          Still for your satisfaction, I'll repeat, Collin did all the donkey work and Rossi walked away with the Championship See, Rossi has brains
          Last edited by 46 the Greatest ever; 04-17-2009, 01:50 AM.

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          • @46.... Whats goin on...

            The world knows what Rossi, Burges & their crew have done to make M1 a race winning machine. You don't have to prove it to nobody!! Some ppl have different point of view, so let it be..it doesn't make any difference what so ever!
            Last edited by nitinsen; 04-17-2009, 11:01 AM.

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            • ah well, you can only lead a horse to water.....
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              • Originally posted by killer View Post
                ah well, you can only lead a horse to water.....
                :d:d:d:d:d +1.

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                • Originally posted by soulstation View Post
                  Here comes the MotoGP poop.

                  interesting facts about MotoGp's first race this year carried out by crash.net.

                  Monday's season-opening Qatar night race was the first event of the single-tyre MotoGP era, with all 18 riders offered the same limited range of tyres for the first time.

                  As well as reducing costs, it was hoped that the move would make the racing closer, after two seasons dominated by drawn-out runaway wins since the switch to 800cc engines.

                  However despite having the same tyres available to all, and satellite teams getting machinery closer to factory spec (all the Honda and Yamaha teams now have pneumatic-valve engines for example) this year's Qatar Grand Prix saw the leaders break away even further than before, with a knock on effect throughout the field.

                  Casey Stoner had to fight his way back from a bad start to win in 2008, but led the 2009 race from start to finish. Both seasons saw 17 riders reach the finish.

                  Victory margin: 5.323sec (2008) - 7.771sec (2009)
                  Podium margin: 10.600sec (2008) - 16.244sec (2009)
                  Top 6: 14.040sec (2008) - 29.883sec (2009)
                  Top 10: 38.354sec (2008) - 42.284sec (2009)
                  Top 15: 58.930sec (2008) - 1min 0.286sec (2009)
                  1st to 17th (last): 1 lap* (2008) - 1min 15.028 (2009)

                  Yarn.....
                  There you are started again with your belittling posts. Come one! pal, sure you are pissed off with management of the races but why do you have to show your frustration in each an every post of yours. If you don't like motogp don't watch it. Stick to your WSBK interests.
                  Ask yourself will your ranting cribbing have any effect on motogp races?
                  A humble request thats it!

                  Originally posted by 46 the Greatest ever View Post
                  @Suren: Thanks for telling me what development is all about!!! And I thought finding a perfect setup is also a part of a bike's development! It can make or break ur championship hopes!

                  I think Rossi should extend his personal thanks to Edwards without whom he would have never won the 2008 title! What would he do without Edwards, eh!!!

                  And you carefully avoided the comments in one of my previous posts where I mentioned that even the renowned MotoGP journalists and commentators like Nick Harris, Mat Oxley etc. share my point of view when they many a times say that how much Rossi, Jeremy Burgess and their team have worked hard on M1's development. Sure you didn't have anything to counter that! And I am sure these guys know much more about who is doing how much for his bike's development, right?

                  Still for your satisfaction, I'll repeat, Collin did all the donkey work and Rossi walked away with the Championship See, Rossi has brains
                  Originally posted by nitinsen View Post
                  @46.... Whats goin on...

                  The world knows what Rossi, Burges & their crew have done to make M1 a race winning machine. You don't have to prove it to nobody!! Some ppl have different point of view, so let it be..it doesn't make any difference what so ever!
                  @sukant, @46, @suren: Guys, can't a decent discussion prevail in this thread? We were having a healthy discussion but suddenly it transformed into worthless bickering inviting probable infractions, deletion of post by the mods. You might be having your preferences but that doesn't mean you go on a frenzy and start an argument.
                  Again a humble request. We all love motorcyle racing but please let the competition remain on the tracks and for the riders.

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                  • For posterity

                    guys

                    its all very well to wait for races, but it would be good if we could have a list of great documentaries/races-to-remember which we can have as permanent additions to our hard disks. A few pages ago in this thread, I came across Faster (I think Sukant08's suggestion) and I downloaded it. Narrated by Ewan McGregor, it makes for fantastic viewing giving a fairly exhaustive narrative from the 80s to 2004 motogp. I also have 'Valentino Rossi-Trail of Glory'- a doc on the doc. What other docs/races are worth owning?



                    Please refrain from asking how to download. PM if you need to.
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                    Lean.

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                    • Originally posted by pudix View Post
                      guys

                      its all very well to wait for races, but it would be good if we could have a list of great documentaries/races-to-remember which we can have as permanent additions to our hard disks. A few pages ago in this thread, I came across Faster (I think Sukant08's suggestion) and I downloaded it. Narrated by Ewan McGregor, it makes for fantastic viewing giving a fairly exhaustive narrative from the 80s to 2004 motogp. I also have 'Valentino Rossi-Trail of Glory'- a doc on the doc. What other docs/races are worth owning?



                      Please refrain from asking how to download. PM if you need to.
                      Troy's Story - The Incredible Rise of Superbike Champion Troy Bayliss(2007)

                      Oh! wait. should i post this on the superbike thread??

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                      • Originally posted by pudix View Post
                        guys

                        its all very well to wait for races, but it would be good if we could have a list of great documentaries/races-to-remember which we can have as permanent additions to our hard disks. A few pages ago in this thread, I came across Faster (I think Sukant08's suggestion) and I downloaded it. Narrated by Ewan McGregor, it makes for fantastic viewing giving a fairly exhaustive narrative from the 80s to 2004 motogp. I also have 'Valentino Rossi-Trail of Glory'- a doc on the doc. What other docs/races are worth owning?



                        Please refrain from asking how to download. PM if you need to.
                        Last edited by sukant08; 04-17-2009, 04:45 PM.
                        Kawasaki Ninja : Because lazy sunday afternoons should be despatched at 160 kmph!!!
                        Hyosung Aquila : Because sometimes you need to look cool while riding at 40 kmph and you can do that only on a cruiser !!!

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                        • I think many of us have seen the rim go hot red in F1 races...but that same thing happening in motogp...man i wasnt expecting to see it like a shock...yes i know that disc gets hot but...anyways...simply enjaay !!

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                          • Originally posted by george katie View Post
                            I think many of us have seen the rim go hot red in F1 races...but that same thing happening in motogp...man i wasnt expecting to see it like a shock...yes i know that disc gets hot but...anyways...simply enjaay !!
                            Wow !! That looks amazing !! I thought these carbon brakes do not get that hot !!
                            Kawasaki Ninja : Because lazy sunday afternoons should be despatched at 160 kmph!!!
                            Hyosung Aquila : Because sometimes you need to look cool while riding at 40 kmph and you can do that only on a cruiser !!!

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                            • Stunning pics yaar.. Never saw anything like this before..!!
                              The Story Of My Life

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                              • Alrighty..

                                Rossi nominated for Laureus World Sportsman of the Year award | The Official MotoGP Website


                                @sukank08... buddy, carbon discs do get hotter and cool faster than the steel ones, thats why they are used in dry races so they maintain operating temperature without getting overheated (overheating reduces performance). This is why, in wet races steel discs are used coz with water cooling them faster they are still able to maintain the temperature for longer period.
                                Last edited by nitinsen; 04-18-2009, 12:29 AM.

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