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  • #76
    Originally posted by prateekm View Post
    Then where is this ISI logo checking taking place?
    In the 86kms that I ride every day, since the announcement, I have only seen it happening once at the signal just after the Byculla flyover towards JJ and that too, one person was being charged and about 4 to 5 people with the inverted kadhais were passing right in front of the cops.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Saerius View Post
      Arnt Daija local made copies of Marushin helmets?
      Copies.. But certainly not local. However, even if one is using genuine Arai or Shoie, one could be fined. This is what sucks with the new rule. Been planning to buy new helmet but had put plans on hold as I don't want to pay fine after spending 10K+ on a helmet. Now seriously considering getting the cheapest ISI helmet around. Wouldn't care if they are 200 or 500.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Saerius View Post
        Arnt Daija local made copies of Marushin helmets?
        I'm not sure but this thing cost me 4,750/- got it from a DSG dealership .. M shell size fit's pretty good n very tight, so it's all good

        Local made bol diya... saddd
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        • #79
          It wouldn't be too far fetched to think that the Traffic Commissioner and the All India ISI Helmet Manufacturers Association are hand in glove to implement a rule like this with the RTO getting a kickback and the manufacturers making a windfall.

          Recall, a few years ago the RTO had come out with a rule regarding the shade of sun film to be used in car windows, then changing of number plate color to white for private cars and yellow for taxis etc.
          Ride To Live

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          • #80
            Speaking about helmets i have seen yesterday while going towards south mumbai that 90% of riders plying under jj flyover i.e on muhamad ali road were not wearing helmets they were freely passing in front of traffic policemen and none of the policemen dare to stop these people and fine them. I hope mr. commissoner of police can see this from the window of his office before passing this ISI mark law. These ISI helmet mark thing is all stunt for few days after that nobody cares but beware these pandu's will stop you and slap a case on you for any silly reason from month of feb to march (quota joh poora karna hai cases ka?)

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            • #81
              Originally posted by rahul2880 View Post
              Speaking about helmets i have seen yesterday while going towards south mumbai that 90% of riders plying under jj flyover i.e on muhamad ali road were not wearing helmets they were freely passing in front of traffic policemen and none of the policemen dare to stop these people and fine them. I hope mr. commissoner of police can see this from the window of his office before passing this ISI mark law. These ISI helmet mark thing is all stunt for few days after that nobody cares but beware these pandu's will stop you and slap a case on you for any silly reason from month of feb to march (quota joh poora karna hai cases ka?)
              Well, actually they couldn't enforce the rules on riders "without" helmets properly so they are changing tactic by going after riders "with" helmets. Soft targets I guess.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post
                Copies.. But certainly not local. However, even if one is using genuine Arai or Shoie, one could be fined. This is what sucks with the new rule. Been planning to buy new helmet but had put plans on hold as I don't want to pay fine after spending 10K+ on a helmet. Now seriously considering getting the cheapest ISI helmet around. Wouldn't care if they are 200 or 500.
                Don't compromise on your safety for such rules. It seems that this diktat is going to be a seasonal affair. Just skip known hotspots when they start 'drives'.

                Originally posted by DeepMahal View Post
                I'm not sure but this thing cost me 4,750/- got it from a DSG dealership .. M shell size fit's pretty good n very tight, so it's all good

                Local made bol diya... saddd
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                • #83
                  Congrats to the Harley Association for getting this written up in today's Times! Hopefully this will bring more pressure on the Transportation Administration to find a solution.

                  In case someone from Transportation is reading, my suggestion would be to issue a special ISI license for use on imported helmets, and would apply to any DOT/ECE/Snell/Australian/Japan safety certified helmet (the assumption being that any of those certifications is in all ways more stringent than the ISI, and therefore it can be assumed that it would also pass ISI). This would be applied by the importer either at customs clearance or upon distribution to retailers. Those of us with existing DOT/Snell/ECE/etc helmets or visitors with helmets they brought with them would bring it to either the local Transportation office or the Traffic dept for a sticker.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by The Mountain View Post
                    Congrats to the Harley Association for getting this written up in today's Times! Hopefully this will bring more pressure on the Transportation Administration to find a solution......
                    Has there been any updates on this??
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                    • #85
                      Re: Helmet minus ISI mark? Be prepared to pay a fine

                      Any initiative by xBhp so far on this ?

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                      • #86
                        Re: Helmet minus ISI mark? Be prepared to pay a fine

                        Hi, is anyone having an isi sticker please send it to me, I'll pay the cash as well as the parcel charges. When you are sending the sticker please put your upi id along with it, I'll send the amount to it.

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                        Last edited by Samarth 619; 11-19-2019, 02:30 PM. Reason: removed address, which is a personal info.

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                        • #87
                          Re: Helmet minus ISI mark? Be prepared to pay a fine

                          Originally posted by anishkrissh View Post
                          Hi, is anyone having an isi sticker please send it to me, I'll pay the cash as well as the parcel charges. When you are sending the sticker please put your upi id along with it, I'll send the amount to it.

                          Send me a Personal Message :-- https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/private...=newpm&u=35824
                          Hi,
                          Kindly avoid posting personal details like email, phone number, address, etc on an open forum. Its dangerous for your own privacy.
                          I've posted a link by which anyone can send you a Private message, so you might send your address to anyone personally if you so wish.


                          Coming to the helmet sticker, I'm not really sure if it is legal to use a license number assigned to another company on a helmet which has not cleared ISI certification, no matter how good your helmet is, compared to the ISI standard... You can decide reg. this on your own though. All the best.
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                          • #88
                            Re: Helmet minus ISI mark? Be prepared to pay a fine

                            Originally posted by The Mountain View Post
                            Congrats to the Harley Association for getting this written up in today's Times! Hopefully this will bring more pressure on the Transportation Administration to find a solution.

                            In case someone from Transportation is reading, my suggestion would be to issue a special ISI license for use on imported helmets, and would apply to any DOT/ECE/Snell/Australian/Japan safety certified helmet (the assumption being that any of those certifications is in all ways more stringent than the ISI, and therefore it can be assumed that it would also pass ISI). This would be applied by the importer either at customs clearance or upon distribution to retailers. Those of us with existing DOT/Snell/ECE/etc helmets or visitors with helmets they brought with them would bring it to either the local Transportation office or the Traffic dept for a sticker.
                            It's all about the money, how will they earn money that they would from certification. And yes, they won't certify it based on some other test. One has to pass their own tests. That's how it is.

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                            • #89
                              Re: Helmet minus ISI mark? Be prepared to pay a fine

                              The maximum weight limit of 1.2 Kg seems to have been done away with:
                              The Bureau of Indian Standards (BIS) will be implementing a new notification for the two-wheeler helmet standard from September 4, 2020. According to a recent report, the new norms will see the 1200 gram weight for helmets being done away with, which was implemented in 2018. The rule restricted the sale of imported helmets in India that did not carry the ISI mark and weighed considerably more than weight-cap under the BIS norms. However, the revised standard will allow the sale of imported helmets, though they will still need to comply with the Indian Standard (IS) norms.


                              A short excerpt from the above article:

                              The Bureau of Indian Standards (BIS) will be implementing a new notification for two-wheeler helmet standards from September 4, 2020. According to a recent report, the new norms will see the 1.2 kg weight limit for helmets being done away with, which was implemented in 2018. The rule restricted the sale of imported helmets in India that did not carry the ISI mark and weighed considerably more than the weight cap under the BIS norms. However, the revised standard will allow the sale of imported helmets, though they will still need to comply with the Indian Standard (IS) norms.
                              But if I understand correctly, the imported helmets will still need to be ISI certified. Its just that the weight restriction has been removed - so it may be too soon to celebrate yet.

                              [EDIT]:
                              Here's a link to the latest document from BIS' website: http://bis.gov.in/wp-content/uploads...20-REVISED.pdf
                              Last edited by aashishjoshi; 07-22-2020, 12:31 PM.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Helmet minus ISI mark? Be prepared to pay a fine

                                Originally posted by aashishjoshi View Post
                                The maximum weight limit of 1.2 Kg seems to have been done away with:
                                The Bureau of Indian Standards (BIS) will be implementing a new notification for the two-wheeler helmet standard from September 4, 2020. According to a recent report, the new norms will see the 1200 gram weight for helmets being done away with, which was implemented in 2018. The rule restricted the sale of imported helmets in India that did not carry the ISI mark and weighed considerably more than weight-cap under the BIS norms. However, the revised standard will allow the sale of imported helmets, though they will still need to comply with the Indian Standard (IS) norms.



                                A short excerpt from the above article:






                                But if I understand correctly, the imported helmets will still need to be ISI certified. Its just that the weight restriction has been removed - so it may be too soon to celebrate yet.


                                [EDIT]:
                                Here's a link to the latest document from BIS' website: http://bis.gov.in/wp-content/uploads...20-REVISED.pdf

                                It would seem that every couple of years BIS arbitrarily tries to bring in new sources of income. ECE 22.05 still exceeds IS 4151:2015 standards with manufacturers slowly moving to ECE 22.06 by 2023. Making it ISI mandatory effectively kills many helmets that are currently sold with even Snell M2015 rating albeit in small numbers. Has the ISI certification process been made any easier for smaller importers/manufacturers? No, they still have to go through our bureaucratic quagmire and grease-palming. This seems to be protectionism disguised as standards compliance and only large volume importers (aka Chinese manufacturers) will bother with a certification - or a fake one. Remember it already happened with the tire industry.


                                The good news it is still a draft and comments can be sent to [email protected] and [email protected]. That window closes by August 30th midnight.

                                EDIT: Official draft notification from MoRTH - https://morth.nic.in/sites/default/f...on%20MoRTH.pdf
                                Last edited by 404; 08-05-2020, 02:24 PM. Reason: Added PDF link

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