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  • #16
    Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

    They could have got the 90's CBR 250RR back and we would have loved it like anything!
    How many of us would buy it? As a sales point of view the bike would be on par with the Ninja's tag if not more.
    Not to mention the service schedule will be too frequent. Spares expensive, Maintenance cost even more expensive. Its a fuel gulping machine and in this time of crisis that would be the last thing a company focussing on the future would need.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by chicmagnet View Post
      Someone is gonna get a hurt real bad .
      Lol!!! Samarth is our friend & there's nothing to get hurt...when we're discussing.

      Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
      How many of us would buy it?
      Add to that...a few saying...bringing 90's technology in 2011!!! Already someone was pointing out saying that the 81 models of CB 250N & CB 250RS had twin cylinder & were capable of producing 28 bhp.

      Probably HMSI wanted to take a share of its own in 250cc segment & hence they offered the current model; personally to me, N250R is a good city/urban & excellent highway machine; but C250R is an excellent city/urban & good highway machine.

      If C250R is also made identical (with twin cylinder & 33 PS) then there wouldn't be an identity in the market right?

      Still wanna crib - This one makes about 35 Hp - http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/26781/...a-CRF250R.aspx
      Last edited by aargee; 12-12-2011, 08:56 AM.
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      • #18
        Karizma doing 140?? when where how? CBR250 is a very well packaged value for money bike in India...it deserved that award ...
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        • #19
          Honda CBR 2011 - YouTube

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          • #20
            There is something for sure present in CBR which made it won the award . Regardless of the niggles , good job Honda team , we must say .
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            • #21
              Originally posted by aargee View Post
              Lol!!! Samarth is our friend & there's nothing to get hurt...when we're discussing.


              Add to that...a few saying...bringing 90's technology in 2011!!! Already someone was pointing out saying that the 81 models of CB 250N & CB 250RS had twin cylinder & were capable of producing 28 bhp.

              Probably HMSI wanted to take a share of its own in 250cc segment & hence they offered the current model; personally to me, N250R is a good city/urban & excellent highway machine; but C250R is an excellent city/urban & good highway machine.

              If C250R is also made identical (with twin cylinder & 33 PS) then there wouldn't be an identity in the market right?

              Still wanna crib - This one makes about 35 Hp - 2012 Honda CRF250R Specifications and Price - Motorcycle USA
              CRF250R is a dirtbike most of its power is in very low rpms (1500-4000). After 4k rpm bike is out of any juice. just think of a ninja 250r with rpm effect reversed. As N250 is gutless under 4k same with a dirtbike above 4k. i am not sure but i can be that after 60kmph cbr250r will srart to see CRF250R in the rear view mirror like a dot.

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              • #22
                ^^^ I'm talking on cribbing not on the bike!!!
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                • #23
                  There is a fanaticism being seen on the forums lately that will make Mr Sibbal proud. Anyone who says anything against a particular model is to be flogged in the forum and if you dare point any niggles you are told the others are bad too.

                  I mean that is not really an answer, ninja became this after two decades, it is Honda we are talking about, they spend time and money to give good bikes, why should i forgive them if something bothers me?

                  And why should Ninja not get praises if it has a better suspension and brakes.

                  I think we all agree that Honda's competition internationally is the ninja 250R not super splendor, so it is fair for us to compare the bike with it.

                  At 1.5 lakhs the honda truly is a great VFM but the best bike on sale right now, i doubt.

                  And for those of you who think the suspension will be sorted by bolts and a grab rails being replaces have obviously not ridden hard on the roads along a curve.

                  The zmr has better suspension than the cbr. And by better i don't mean better quality suspension, which frankly am not sure of, but better sorted suspension. Plush suspension.

                  The ninja is harder than the xbr but it doesn't jolt you like you accidentally sat on a taser gun. It holds its line without fuss and drama.

                  And for those of you who say the suspension is good on crater filled roads are being pedantic to say the least. Because you don't understand a sorted suspension. The bike's suspension can be soft but the front and the rear have to behave in symphony. That symphony, that sweet mother of fast left hander joy is what is missing and people are cribbing about.


                  Ultimately the CBR whatever the name you want to keep is an intended corner carver and if it fails or disappoints there the power, the looks, the amazing looking cockpit are of no use.

                  and on less than perfect roads, even the ones in lutyen's delhi have imperfections, it makes you work too hard on the bike.

                  which makes it have a character in my books. and character is good. but no one here argues about that. hence.

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                  • #24
                    Dhanyawad forty6 -- coming from a fellow cbr owner people fail to take the real deal

                    A case of selective hearing & more less of processing is the woe of the day---
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by forty6 View Post
                      And for those of you who say the suspension is good on crater filled roads are being pedantic to say the least. Because you don't understand a sorted suspension. The bike's suspension can be soft but the front and the rear have to behave in symphony. That symphony, that sweet mother of fast left hander joy is what is missing and people are cribbing about.
                      Though your statement may be correct in context of track or hitting curves at high speed. At the same breath, you are also exhibiting pedantry by missing the other side of the argument i.e. going through pot holes filled roads at some 20-40 kmph. One needs to make compromises between setting up for bad roads or tracks. In this case, Honda apparently favoured setting up the suspension for our bad roads, where in all probability, 99% of the bikes will spend its existence.

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                      • #26
                        CBR 250 has won the award, great job by Honda team, but the question is why are we dragging the ninja 250 or the R15 here in comparison, this is the most stupid review which i am observing from the time when CBR was just in air and not actually in market and its flowing even now.

                        Comparing it with R15 also is not worthy as we see this 3 are different categories of bikes, and are designed to do different things, as i have myself observed the R15 handling is way far and better than the CBR 250 in peculiar places but on top end speed the CBR is doing good.

                        In my opinion, there is not a any requirement to do a comparison as this 3 bikes serve 3 different categories of people in the market.

                        EDIT : all 3 bikes have suspension setups so one can tune or modify as per your requirements.
                        Last edited by shrinathrao; 12-12-2011, 08:43 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post
                          Though your statement may be correct in context of track or hitting curves at high speed. At the same breath, you are also exhibiting pedantry by missing the other side of the argument i.e. going through pot holes filled roads at some 20-40 kmph. One needs to make compromises between setting up for bad roads or tracks. In this case, Honda apparently favoured setting up the suspension for our bad roads, where in all probability, 99% of the bikes will spend its existence.
                          quite correct but while forty6 is making one point related to suspension the other aspects can't be ignored which have many of the owners not getting the "feel" of riding a good bike.

                          1st point is the irritating vibes & i know since I have tried 6 different bikes with the same feel

                          2nd the quality of peripherals on the bike

                          3rd is the quality of consumables

                          4th is the ergonomics with the engine characteristics which are a mishmash of acheiving everything yet doing no "one" thing excellent

                          everyone point can be elaborated but fanboys will be ready to pounce

                          yet am satisfied with the purchase & for what it offers in it's particular "price band"

                          Edit:As regards to bike & car of the year every decent bike/car released in a particular year is "THE BIKE/CAR OF THE YEAR" {actually depends on who the competition is/was}
                          Last edited by darkknight; 12-12-2011, 09:44 PM.
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                          • #28
                            The Cbr will get tough competition if Kawasaki plans to reduce it's 250cc Ninja price
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post
                              The Cbr will get tough competition if Kawasaki plans to reduce it's 250cc Ninja price
                              Dude Ninja is already competitively priced. Ninjas are currently CKD units and unless they manufacture it here on Indian soil, we can keep dreaming about owning the CBR's tough competition!
                              In today's world, quotes don't matter. Quotas do!

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                              • #30
                                Dear sirs,

                                we all ride on hope. hope of a better life. hope of termignoni's. hope of a few more million dinosaurs being found, albeit in liquid form. hope of no one coming out of that tight corner you are taking. hope of not getting stuck on some truck while trying to stick to racing line. hope of unlike the teachers and the world, the tyres not giving up on you. Hope is the engine that drove 916. and hope is the engine that drives a s1000rr.

                                so i sincerely hope you are hoping that you will be riding on roads rather than in potholes. Because if you don't hope that you should have been nice to Mr Munjal and bought a super splendor instead.

                                Secondly to those who object to comparisons i guess you then, are basically objecting to the purpose of sites like these. I do grant that to compare a bullet to a cbr is stupid, heck comparing a bullet to anything, unless you are on a dirt track, is stupid, but R15 and ninja are sports bikes at the end of the day. They are supposed to give us cheap thrills and they are in the western world the initiation of the young ones to the world of road riding, so why shouldn't they be compared?

                                In the end it is good to find faults and hope for a better bike. Because CBR could have been a lot better bike. It is this hope of what it could have been that makes us "crib".

                                thanks.

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