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  • Originally posted by shrek View Post
    Before Feb-1, possibly upto Feb-3, the Kanjurmarg KTM showroom required booking amount of 30k, yesterday, a friend booked it, and was asked for 20k.
    I see no logic there, unless they want to attract more bookings.

    Additionally, I believe it is the practice to always provide a booking token number in the booking confirmation. Verbally my friend was told his was 260-ish, but nowhere in print was this given. Also, I am told that this token number is actually provided by Bajaj, and not the individual dealers, what gives?

    With all this ambiguity, it is impossible to know for sure what our delivery queue will look like. I intend on contacting the manager of Kanjurmarg KTM today or tomorrow to figure this out.

    I wish they were more transparent, all this simply leaves a sour taste at the end. To top it off, the showroom staff demonstrate a total lack of understanding, or pretend to... I mean, all the Ninja bookings received a proper token number from Bajaj, why not for the Duke bookings? If anybody has information that I do not about this matter, now is the time to share it.


    I am visiting the kanjurmarg showroom tomm eve will ask and post the details. I want a TD and they are not providing till date.

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    • Originally posted by shrek View Post
      I gave the Kanjurmarj "KTM showroom", the booking amount on republic day. Got a provisional receipt scanned and sent to me on Feb 2. This receipt does not have a booking/token number, only details of my name, cheque number, amount etc. In their register, I saw that I was the 161st entry who'd shelled out the booking charges.
      Originally posted by shrek View Post
      Before Feb-1, possibly upto Feb-3, the Kanjurmarg KTM showroom required booking amount of 30k, yesterday, a friend booked it, and was asked for 20k.
      I see no logic there, unless they want to attract more bookings.

      Additionally, I believe it is the practice to always provide a booking token number in the booking confirmation. Verbally my friend was told his was 260-ish, but nowhere in print was this given. Also, I am told that this token number is actually provided by Bajaj, and not the individual dealers, what gives?

      With all this ambiguity, it is impossible to know for sure what our delivery queue will look like. I intend on contacting the manager of Kanjurmarg KTM today or tomorrow to figure this out.

      I wish they were more transparent, all this simply leaves a sour taste at the end. To top it off, the showroom staff demonstrate a total lack of understanding, or pretend to... I mean, all the Ninja bookings received a proper token number from Bajaj, why not for the Duke bookings? If anybody has information that I do not about this matter, now is the time to share it.
      The official booking date was the 1st of Feb and the booking amount was 20k. the 30k figure floating around as a rumor before feb 01.
      Doing the "payments for booking" before the official booking dates will only add more confusion and is not a transparent way to book.
      Its wrong on the part of the showroom to accept booking amount before Feb 1st. Even if the showroom did this illegal thing, to say that people who paid before the booking started must come ahead of others in the delivery queue is very unfair on people who waited for the official bookings to begin.

      What do you suggest is a fair way to merge the two lists:
      • list of people who paid before official booking
      • list of people who booked on/after official booking

      Only if you can answer this you can argue about your number in the delivery queue.

      Here in bangalore, we made a queue outside the showroom early in the morning keeping track of where everyone is on the queue and booked in the same order when the showroom opened. All of us who were present then had the means to make the payments well before this date, but we did turn up only on feb 1st. Hopefully this showroom has kept everything fair..
      Last edited by sharingan; 02-05-2012, 04:27 PM.
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      • Booked the duke today and again took a test ride and banged rev limiter in each gear but I felt I will soon get used to that power and eventually be hungry for a ducati

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        • my next ride

          my next ride
          Last edited by Harry82; 02-05-2012, 06:16 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Harry82 View Post
            my next ride
            Chandigarh Probiking right? So they got the display bike finally. How tall are you?
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            • Chandigarh Probiking right? So they got the display bike finally. How tall are you?


              Ya Chandigarh pro biking. M 5.8'

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              • Originally posted by sharingan View Post
                The official booking date was the 1st of Feb and the booking amount was 20k. the 30k figure floating around as a rumor before feb 01.
                Doing the "payments for booking" before the official booking dates will only add more confusion and is not a transparent way to book.
                Its wrong on the part of the showroom to accept booking amount before Feb 1st. Even if the showroom did this illegal thing, to say that people who paid before the booking started must come ahead of others in the delivery queue is very unfair on people who waited for the official bookings to begin.

                What do you suggest is a fair way to merge the two lists:
                • list of people who paid before official booking
                • list of people who booked on/after official booking

                Only if you can answer this you can argue about your number in the delivery queue.

                Here in bangalore, we made a queue outside the showroom early in the morning keeping track of where everyone is on the queue and booked in the same order when the showroom opened. All of us who were present then had the means to make the payments well before this date, but we did turn up only on feb 1st. Hopefully this showroom has kept everything fair..
                You are right about the difficulty in merging these lists. When I visited the showroom, they said they are accepting booking amounts, and I was only too happy to give mine. Now, must I be penalized for this?
                On the other hand, those who queued up on Feb-1 and paid the amount, also deserve to be in the queue, but if you mean that theirs should be before mine, I disagree, and hope you are kidding.

                If the showroom accepted booking amounts before Feb-1, anybody could have obtained this information, had they called or visited the showroom. So it is not unfair to say, that Feb-1 bookings should be considered after pre-Feb-1 bookings. I hope you see the logic here. It would only be unfair, if pre-Feb-1 bookings were done without the rest of the world knowing it was possible. It wasn't, there was no shadiness, when I called the showroom on 21-Jan itself, they said the will accept pdc of the booking amount, dated Feb-1. And they would have happily said the same to anyone who bothered to ask.
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                • Revisit to KTM showroom

                  I revisited the KTM showroom at Vasant Kunj, Delhi today. I had actually gone to sign the document/agreement which wasn't available on company letterhead when I had booked the bike.

                  This time they also had a display bike, so, got a feel for the real thing. I gotta say it is a good deal more muscular and bulkier than it appears in the pics. The exhaust sounded loud inside the showroom, may not be as impressive on road. And still no test rides.

                  1. I asked them about the no. of bookings till date, they said 15-odd, at that particular showroom. Surprising, considering this is one of the two showrooms in Delhi, and Delhi reported 120+ on the first day itself. So, either I am mistaken or they are. Can someone shed any light on this?
                  2. They say that since I am the first customer at their showroom, I may expect a delivery in early March , but, even after pushing a bit, couldn't get any concrete info about delivery.
                  3. Accessories - Few accessories(Powerwear) like KTM branded riding gear, helmets etc. may be available at showrooms when the bike deliveries start. But, KTM Powerparts will be available only at Bajaj service centers, as will be the spare parts.
                  4. Servicing - Can be done at any Bajaj service center. Can anyone confirm this? Though, they did say that the pro-biking service centers would be better equipped to handle it.

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                  • Originally posted by Harry82 View Post
                    Chandigarh Probiking right? So they got the display bike finally. How tall are you?


                    Ya Chandigarh pro biking. M 5.8'
                    Finally chd got it. I am out of Chandigarh.are they offering test rides. Also confirm if they are offering kiddie once or good 10km test ride ?

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                    • Originally posted by shrek View Post
                      You are right about the difficulty in merging these lists. When I visited the showroom, they said they are accepting booking amounts, and I was only too happy to give mine. Now, must I be penalized for this?
                      On the other hand, those who queued up on Feb-1 and paid the amount, also deserve to be in the queue, but if you mean that theirs should be before mine, I disagree, and hope you are kidding.

                      If the showroom accepted booking amounts before Feb-1, anybody could have obtained this information, had they called or visited the showroom. So it is not unfair to say, that Feb-1 bookings should be considered after pre-Feb-1 bookings. I hope you see the logic here. It would only be unfair, if pre-Feb-1 bookings were done without the rest of the world knowing it was possible. It wasn't, there was no shadiness, when I called the showroom on 21-Jan itself, they said the will accept pdc of the booking amount, dated Feb-1. And they would have happily said the same to anyone who bothered to ask.
                      My main argument was to point out the grey area of the booking system in your showroom.
                      In bangalore there is just one showroom and they don't have to worry about the competition. But in mumbai this is not the case i assume..
                      To deny pdc is to lose potential customers to other showrooms.
                      This is how the entire pdc thing started i guess.
                      Anyways, confront them with the mess they have created. put forth your argument to them and get them to clarify the way they are prioritizing.
                      Just to threaten them you can say that some other showroom is promising delivery from the first lot on full payment even if you booked as late as today..
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                      • Originally posted by sharingan View Post
                        My main argument was to point out the grey area of the booking system in your showroom.
                        In bangalore there is just one showroom and they don't have to worry about the competition. But in mumbai this is not the case i assume..
                        To deny pdc is to lose potential customers to other showrooms.
                        This is how the entire pdc thing started i guess.
                        Anyways, confront them with the mess they have created. put forth your argument to them and get them to clarify the way they are prioritizing.
                        Just to threaten them you can say that some other showroom is promising delivery from the first lot on full payment even if you booked as late as today..
                        Point and advice taken.
                        I'll drop in tomorrow, talk to them and let you guys know how it turns out.
                        Four strokes move my body, two strokes move my soul.
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                        1998 RX 135 4-speed (Stella)
                        2012 KTM Duke 200
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                        • Originally posted by sharingan View Post
                          My main argument was to point out the grey area of the booking system in your showroom.
                          In bangalore there is just one showroom and they don't have to worry about the competition. But in mumbai this is not the case i assume..
                          To deny pdc is to lose potential customers to other showrooms.
                          This is how the entire pdc thing started i guess.
                          Anyways, confront them with the mess they have created. put forth your argument to them and get them to clarify the way they are prioritizing.
                          Just to threaten them you can say that some other showroom is promising delivery from the first lot on full payment even if you booked as late as today..
                          at least we don't have this in bangalore .... But don't know what was that random number they have given us 7,11,13,14 ...

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                          • i am sorry this is OT. but any idea when we can expect the duke 350 to be launched? is it this year or next.. any input on this is much appreciated
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                            • Originally posted by krishna View Post
                              i am sorry this is OT. but any idea when we can expect the duke 350 to be launched? is it this year or next.. any input on this is much appreciated

                              Overdrive magazine have quoted it mite b launched either in December 2012 or Feb 2013 ( if the world exists )....

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                              • Originally posted by shrek View Post
                                Before Feb-1, possibly upto Feb-3, the Kanjurmarg KTM showroom required booking amount of 30k, yesterday, a friend booked it, and was asked for 20k.
                                I see no logic there, unless they want to attract more bookings.

                                Additionally, I believe it is the practice to always provide a booking token number in the booking confirmation. Verbally my friend was told his was 260-ish, but nowhere in print was this given. Also, I am told that this token number is actually provided by Bajaj, and not the individual dealers, what gives?

                                With all this ambiguity, it is impossible to know for sure what our delivery queue will look like. I intend on contacting the manager of Kanjurmarg KTM today or tomorrow to figure this out.

                                I wish they were more transparent, all this simply leaves a sour taste at the end. To top it off, the showroom staff demonstrate a total lack of understanding, or pretend to... I mean, all the Ninja bookings received a proper token number from Bajaj, why not for the Duke bookings? If anybody has information that I do not about this matter, now is the time to share it.
                                Shrek,

                                I booked at the KJmarg showroom too and have been bugging them about the Duke since November
                                I'll try to narrate my understanding of the situation.

                                Bookings were originally scheduled for 3rd Jan (or thereabouts) and had to be cancelled. Were postponed to 24th Jan.
                                This time it was confirmed, with details like booking amount (30k) and time (1pm onwards) also being confirmed.
                                On the morning of 24th, the showroom got a mail from the company (this is the showroom's version of the story) that bookings have been postponed to the 1st of Feb. Now, this guy had more than 300 enquiries for the Duke in his register.
                                He realised that he cannot call and inform everyone in time, so started sending out SMSes using the phones of every employee in the showroom.
                                Some customers got the SMS after they reached the showroom (I got it just before I left for the showroom) and they started creating havoc there (Should've been informed earlier!, etc.).
                                To pacify them, he starts accepting post-dated cheques and said that he would make the receipts on the 1st and then scan and courier the receipts. He wasn't giving out any acknowledgement for the PDC, so it's the customer's risk. (If I were in his place, I definitely would've done the same)
                                Since he was already accepting PDCs, anyone who called there was told that they could give give PDCs. (this was fair!)
                                I'm assuming that they can make the entry in their system only from the 1st of Feb and hence could not give out booking numbers. And since they had a backlog of PDCs, it would not have been possible for them to give out booking nos. to customers booking post 1st Feb. (Assuming, some might have cancelled the PDCs after the 200NS launch)
                                By the way, after the launch of the 200NS, the company reduced the booking amount to 20k (this is decided by the company, not the dealers).

                                All in all, I personally feel that the situation was handled very well by the showroom (can't say the same for the company).

                                PS: I frankly don't care much for the sales and service experience. If the bike is reliable, I have to deal with them only a couple of times a year. That is a cost I'm ready to pay to own a good bike.
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