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  • Originally posted by Sunz View Post
    Same here Debashish, I was sold the moment I saw the snaps of Duke. She is a beauty. Two days later my brother was at Pro Biking store to book one.

    Now back to the point, 20 kmpl is a bit worry some for me. But I hope the after the first ride all the worries will go to the burners.
    ^^...thumbs Upp...

    But when u v a fuel tank of 10ltr capacity, and mileage of 18-20kmpl, u need to ride in full tank most of the times to avoid freq fuel stops....& riding with a full tank..doesn feel good..

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    • Originally posted by sanjithjoseph View Post
      If its much concerned about mileage, then go for HH / HMC Bikes . .
      Why one shouldnt be concerned about mileage? Its afterall a mere 200cc bike, 20kmpl is too low for a 200cc bike. Ninja 250 returns a nice 30kmpl with a more powerful 250cc motor. Monster 795 returns a nice 15kmpl bro.
      Street racing is for Squids trying to make up for their small equipment

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      • Exactly Riot, even I don't understand why we shouldn't be concerned about mileage. I mean no one is expecting an unrealistic figure for sure, right? And it's not a "being an Indian" thing, people do care about mileage everywhere. Even in international reviews, mileage factor is highlighted as part of a motorcycle's overall performance.

        Is it the "in thing" nowadays to be a performance freak without giving a damn about the mileage? And 20 kmpl, if true, is really low by any standard for a 200cc street motorcycle. But yes, let's wait and see what owners report here.
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        • Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
          Exactly Riot, even I don't understand why we shouldn't be concerned about mileage. I mean no one is expecting an unrealistic figure for sure, right? And it's not a "being an Indian" thing, people do care about mileage everywhere. Even in international reviews, mileage factor is highlighted as part of a motorcycle's overall performance.

          Is it the "in thing" nowadays to be a performance freak without giving a damn about the mileage? And 20 kmpl, if true, is really low by any standard for a 200cc street motorcycle. But yes, let's wait and see what owners report here.
          Guys ... I don't think its going to be 20 kmpl .... No one will buy in india ... I mean other than people who has booked like me .... At least a mileage of 28-32 is reasonable
          say, if you rip --- if it gives 20 its ok ... But normal day it should give at least 28-32

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          • Tastes

            For a commuter who likes to treat his bike like a transport vehicle, mileage will matter a lot....

            But for a biker who likes to ride for the sake of riding, it shouldnt...

            Anyways...indivisual tastes differ

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            • I took a test ride yesterday, the things which I noticed

              pros

              -light weight
              -saddle height (good for a six feeter)
              -looks
              -loud pipes
              -ergonomics

              cons

              -feeble horn

              couldn't go past 30 km in 2nd gear so could tell anything about the power and acceleration. I felt that the bike lacked power (may be its just the test ride bike). From the 1 st gear when I started rolling, I had to immediately shift in to 2 nd as the engine sounded overworked.

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              • Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post
                20kmpl? Holy sheesh!
                Even Fz1 gives 19,man.
                That 20 figure will concern alotta people. But then again, what if its the pre-breakin figure. Post break-in this thing will churn out an avg close to company's call of 30.
                Dude, at last, I got the r15 booking canceled. Now, waiting for the pulsar booking get open I hope 200ns returns 35+.
                Love the ride, not the destination

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                • Think about it if the NS claims to give 58Kmpl the the duke with the lesser weight of the 2 and the similar engine should return about 30-35 and that's only because its short T's

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                  • Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
                    Exactly Riot, even I don't understand why we shouldn't be concerned about mileage. I mean no one is expecting an unrealistic figure for sure, right? And it's not a "being an Indian" thing, people do care about mileage everywhere. Even in international reviews, mileage factor is highlighted as part of a motorcycle's overall performance.

                    Is it the "in thing" nowadays to be a performance freak without giving a damn about the mileage? And 20 kmpl, if true, is really low by any standard for a 200cc street motorcycle. But yes, let's wait and see what owners report here.
                    to be frank ktm and bajaj will not be dumb enough to get a bike which gives 20kmpl on road( and im surprised where this figure came form). the practical and realistic figure would be 30-35 kmpl and ill be pretty satisfied with that.
                    WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY

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                    • Took a test ride on Friday from the Kanjurmarg showroom in Mumbai. The staff knows me by name and face now, and I was greeted well, and informed unofficially that my status in the booking queue was #155. At first they insisted that somebody will sit pillion while I TD the bike, I protested, but relented.
                      On LBS marg on a weekday afternoon, the traffic is sparse, though still nowhere near empty. It was on these sparsely occupied roads that I TD'ed the Duke. It took me a while to understand the free revving nature of the bike , and once I figured that out, shifting at the right revs was a joy. I was enjoying myself, shifting at >8k rpm and was blown away by the pillion's words. He said, "Sir, aur kheecho, thoda aur kheecho!". It may be that he was enjoying himself as well, and when I asked him to get off, and let me take her for a spin solo, he obliged without a fuss. Without a pillion, the bike seemed to take off much quicker, as was expected. The acceleration gave me such a rush, that I had to force myself to test out its other aspects. So I gave it the usual routine, hard braking, engine braking, combination of front/rear braking. Tried to lug the engine by shifting earlier, braked sharply on turns etc.

                      From the braking point of view, I am very satisfied with the Duke, always confident, always ready to stop irrespective of the speed, and without any issues. At one point I was doing 40kph in sixth, just to hear the engine knock a bit, but I couldn't hear it. Accelerating from 40 to 75~ in 6th (call it a negative test) was slower than if I went through gears 2-3-4-5, but it was still ready to go. Engine braking was a little scary, as the noise was enough to make me panic, but I guess it is to be expected. The engine note seemed to be much louder than a week back, but I wasn't complaining. The Duke is spectacular for cutting through slow moving traffic. This coming from a guy who rides an rx-135 4speed. The Rx is light and flickable and ready to fly given the stinker, and the duke proved equally eager!

                      My one take from the test ride was this. When I ride the Duke, I am not pottering along at a steady 60kph, I will not be lost in thoughts, or wondering at the scenic beauty I'm passing. The Duke is not built for such pursuits, unlike an enfield. On the Duke, acceleration is not an option, it is mandatory. Reaching the rev limit on each gear is not to be frowned upon, but to strive for. The engine note is not to be stifled, but to be joined in with gusto! I was screaming almost as loud as the Duke, when I realized, this is it. This is the bike that even my rx-135 will not resent standing alongside. The bike that my std 350 will allow in its presence, the bike that my karizma won't regret being sold for. The bike that my dad will frown upon, but secretly will wish to steal the keys to. TD it yourself, and let some madness back into your life.

                      PS: all the posts comparing the R15, I'm very happy to report that the Duke is by nature, very different from the R15, quicker and more powerful. It does not sound refined and does nothing to make itself more aerodynamically advantaged. The R15 has several factors that make it an incredible machine. But it will never be as mental as the Duke. And mental is what I am paying for.
                      Four strokes move my body, two strokes move my soul.
                      1988 RE Std 350 (Bull)
                      1998 RX 135 4-speed (Stella)
                      2012 KTM Duke 200
                      2012 Ninja 650

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                      • Thanks for the review shrek.
                        In bangalore we yet to get the TD vehicle. So, I took a TD of the ninja 250 instead and it blew my mind! The sound as audible the driver is awesome. the twin cylinder inline is on a level of smoothness the single cylinders can never achieve. even at 12k rpm there is not a faintest of vibe. Loved the bike but its not good for my back (my main reason for switching from R15 to duke) so sticking with the duke
                        PM me for Daytona Racing ECU for the R15
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                        • Originally posted by sharingan View Post
                          Thanks for the review shrek.
                          In bangalore we yet to get the TD vehicle. So, I took a TD of the ninja 250 instead and it blew my mind! The sound as audible the driver is awesome. the twin cylinder inline is on a level of smoothness the single cylinders can never achieve. even at 12k rpm there is not a faintest of vibe. Loved the bike but its not good for my back (my main reason for switching from R15 to duke) so sticking with the duke
                          The Ninja is definitely awesome. Even I, when I went to book the Duke, first spent time ogling at the display Ninja...such is it's appeal. Apparently, there is no waiting period for a Ninja 250, bikes are ready for delivery within the week! I have experienced the Ninja's performance first hand, and no other bike in that category can match it. If only twins were more common and less expensive to own and run... In a few years though, I would expect to see every manufacturer selling a fair number of twin cylinder 250+ cc bikes in India. It is inevitable, and long overdue. Getting back to the Duke TD, bribe/borrow/steal but get yourself a TD soon. Life-altering.
                          Last edited by shrek; 02-12-2012, 06:30 PM. Reason: missed a point about delivery waiting period
                          Four strokes move my body, two strokes move my soul.
                          1988 RE Std 350 (Bull)
                          1998 RX 135 4-speed (Stella)
                          2012 KTM Duke 200
                          2012 Ninja 650

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                          • Originally posted by shrek View Post
                            Took a test ride on Friday from the Kanjurmarg showroom in Mumbai. The staff knows me by name and face now, and I was greeted well, and informed unofficially that my status in the booking queue was #155. At first they insisted that somebody will sit pillion while I TD the bike, I protested, but relented.
                            On LBS marg on a weekday afternoon, the traffic is sparse, though still nowhere near empty. It was on these sparsely occupied roads that I TD'ed the Duke. It took me a while to understand the free revving nature of the bike , and once I figured that out, shifting at the right revs was a joy. I was enjoying myself, shifting at >8k rpm and was blown away by the pillion's words. He said, "Sir, aur kheecho, thoda aur kheecho!". It may be that he was enjoying himself as well, and when I asked him to get off, and let me take her for a spin solo, he obliged without a fuss. Without a pillion, the bike seemed to take off much quicker, as was expected. The acceleration gave me such a rush, that I had to force myself to test out its other aspects. So I gave it the usual routine, hard braking, engine braking, combination of front/rear braking. Tried to lug the engine by shifting earlier, braked sharply on turns etc.

                            From the braking point of view, I am very satisfied with the Duke, always confident, always ready to stop irrespective of the speed, and without any issues. At one point I was doing 40kph in sixth, just to hear the engine knock a bit, but I couldn't hear it. Accelerating from 40 to 75~ in 6th (call it a negative test) was slower than if I went through gears 2-3-4-5, but it was still ready to go. Engine braking was a little scary, as the noise was enough to make me panic, but I guess it is to be expected. The engine note seemed to be much louder than a week back, but I wasn't complaining. The Duke is spectacular for cutting through slow moving traffic. This coming from a guy who rides an rx-135 4speed. The Rx is light and flickable and ready to fly given the stinker, and the duke proved equally eager!

                            My one take from the test ride was this. When I ride the Duke, I am not pottering along at a steady 60kph, I will not be lost in thoughts, or wondering at the scenic beauty I'm passing. The Duke is not built for such pursuits, unlike an enfield. On the Duke, acceleration is not an option, it is mandatory. Reaching the rev limit on each gear is not to be frowned upon, but to strive for. The engine note is not to be stifled, but to be joined in with gusto! I was screaming almost as loud as the Duke, when I realized, this is it. This is the bike that even my rx-135 will not resent standing alongside. The bike that my std 350 will allow in its presence, the bike that my karizma won't regret being sold for. The bike that my dad will frown upon, but secretly will wish to steal the keys to. TD it yourself, and let some madness back into your life.

                            PS: all the posts comparing the R15, I'm very happy to report that the Duke is by nature, very different from the R15, quicker and more powerful. It does not sound refined and does nothing to make itself more aerodynamically advantaged. The R15 has several factors that make it an incredible machine. But it will never be as mental as the Duke. And mental is what I am paying for.
                            brilliantly said, beautiful comparison.. I am awwwed :P
                            This is what this thread deserves, not some pity FE comparisons! Thanks mate

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                            • Oranged

                              Originally posted by shrek View Post
                              On the Duke, acceleration is not an option, it is mandatory.
                              Nuff said.

                              For those concerned about the TopGear Review of the Duke returning <20 kmpl .... Just remember the face of Top Gear going, "POWER!!!"

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                              • Originally posted by krishna View Post
                                to be frank ktm and bajaj will not be dumb enough to get a bike which gives 20kmpl on road( and im surprised where this figure came form). the practical and realistic figure would be 30-35 kmpl and ill be pretty satisfied with that.
                                I second that. I decided to think about what factors are in favor or against the mileage.

                                The major favorable factors:

                                1. Lightweight,
                                2. Fuel injection,
                                3. 4 valves,
                                4. On board instrumentation to tell mileage, (could be unneeded/ useless factor though)

                                The major "Against" factors:

                                1. High revving, outright power oriented,
                                2. Low gearing, (not necessarily a big factor)
                                3. Aerodynamics, (not a big factor)

                                And within city crowds, low geared bikes do good enough due to less shifting required and hence, less times "off power". Shine & the twin RTR's being some good examples.

                                I perceive the 30 kmpl figure to be "realistic figure" that you and me can achieve easily. Even Bajaj know this bike's focus is the city/ streets. So, maybe they tested this engine within the city to come upon a mileage figure?
                                Remember those twins testing this engine (The orange logo on the engine?).
                                Last edited by Samarth 619; 02-12-2012, 08:40 PM.
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