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KTM Duke 390 ABS Unveiled EDIT: Caught testing near Pune. Pics on page#57

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  • Satellite.kid
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    Trust KTM. The Austrian is experienced and knows what they are doing. The frame might be similar in dimensions but as we can see it's been strengthened to take on the extra power. Peace out.

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  • kochumvk
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    Brake system Front Disc brake with four-pot brake caliper
    Bove is quoted from KTM Indian website.

    So this guy got twin rotors(300mm x 2) up front!!. I never know that.

    But the site says 139Kg for ABS version as well. so we cant believe , what is written? or what?

    After doing my first ton on Duke 200, I said loudly "This is not my tool". There is nothing I could find suitable for touring in Duke. But I wont mind having one in my garage for the shorter rides and daily fun. That is the irresistible character I found in 200 duke. The sigle, that commands respect.

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  • senotrius
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    Originally posted by nasirkaka View Post
    yiiippiiieeeeeee!!

    been waiting for this for eternity.
    Now the dilemma is to book it ASAL, or wait for the initial lot to clear.
    Had not so pleasant experience with my forst lot C5.
    hopefully they have worked out the niggles with 200 so 390 may be much more reliable(wrt fork seal and all)

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  • nasirkaka
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    Originally posted by iNaresh View Post

    So its coming to India.. :-)

    yiiippiiieeeeeee!!

    been waiting for this for eternity.
    Now the dilemma is to book it ASAL, or wait for the initial lot to clear.
    Had not so pleasant experience with my forst lot C5.

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  • princesirohi
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    i don't think tyre size will be a problem in duke390, what actually matters is the compound used in tyres and their shape/profile. a set of sticky soft compound tyres will work wonders ....

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  • iNaresh
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    So its coming to India.. :-)

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  • antz.bin
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    Originally posted by Praful View Post
    Nope, its not if the bike is technically ready to take on the extra power. Can't say that unless I really get to ride one.

    Been riding a friends 200 for the past 2 days, and its almost bordering on brutal, of course in a very 'fun' way. Still, for a bike with same sized tyres, brakes, and a similar frame the 390 will be shit-in-your pants scary. The 200 itself is quite a handful in within the city, I can't imagine how crazy the 390 will be.

    But one observation much to my surprise, I find the straight line stability of the P220 to be better than the nervous and twitchy, D200. Its definitely sure footed but will take a while to inspire confidence.

    Even with stickier tires, the 390 still makes almost 90% more power.

    The 200 accelerates pretty quickly and stops pretty quickly too, I'm just wondering with faster acceleration how will the brakes and tyres (even if stickier Metzeler rubber) keep up with the crazy torque the 390 would be belting out!
    Reading the above post, I get the feeling that the new Pulsar 375 is the only bike which will be able to satisfy a satisfied 220er (like us ). Can't say about the Honda but definitely not the Duke.

    Anyways, the highest capacity bikes I have ever ridden are the Hyosungs (GT650R and ST7). And interestingly, the GT650R comes with both tyres just 10mm fatter than the Duke(s), i.e. 120 section Front and 160 section Rear tyres. The exact same size is also used by the Ninja 650 and the Duke 690.

    With all due respect, the GT650R / Ninja 650R / Duke 690 (69-73 Ps) are substantially more powerful than the Duke 390 (44 Ps). I have ridden the GT650R at speeds that my 220 isn't even capable of, on a narrow, winding, single-lane road but even that wasn't 'shit-my-pants' scary (or maybe I just have a respectable 'shit-my-pants' threshold ).

    You could argue that the Honda 500s use the same tyre size as the 650s (120 Front and 160 Rear) but then the 650s and the 500s are substantially heavier than the Duke 390 and would need all the extra contact patch they can get when coming to a halt. The Duke, being much much lighter (44kg less than the Honda, 65kg less than the GT650R), would carry much less momentum which would mean that a set of sticky 110 section Front and 150 section Rear tyres might well be just enough.

    But once again, all this is speculation. Can't wait to get my hands on one of these *evil grin*.

    Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
    KTM website's Indian version displays slight variations in seat height and ground clearance between 200 and 390

    See: KTM 390 Duke ABS 2013 - KTM 390 Duke ABS 2013 - Technical Details
    The ones mentioned on EU websites are the 2013 editions. What we have mentioned on ours is the 2012 edition. Obviously they won't be making 2 different Duke 200s for India and EU for too long.
    Last edited by antz.bin; 11-24-2012, 12:22 PM.

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  • glider99
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    Originally posted by Praful View Post
    Nope, its not if the bike is technically ready to take on the extra power. Can't say that unless I really get to ride one.

    Been riding a friends 200 for the past 2 days, and its almost bordering on brutal, of course in a very 'fun' way. Still, for a bike with same sized tyres, brakes, and a similar frame the 390 will be shit-in-your pants scary. The 200 itself is quite a handful in within the city, I can't imagine how crazy the 390 will be.

    But one observation much to my surprise, I find the straight line stability of the P220 to be better than the nervous and twitchy, D200. Its definitely sure footed but will take a while to inspire confidence.
    hi, no offence here please, but i beg to differ. i don't think that the duke 200 is nervous at all. i am riding it since march and in my observation it is very responsive and flickable, yes. but i am always amazed how easy it is to cut neat lines in each turn and bend you are taking. the bike for me feels very planted it is just very responsive to all inputs you are giving. but that for me this is not nervous. you can ride it fast but if your inputs are calm the bike is very stable in my experience.

    but of course, no idea how the 390 will handle with that extra amount of power in the similar/same chassis, tyres etc.
    but i am itching to ride it. will for sure not be the perfect bike for a person with less or no experience......

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  • Satellite.kid
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    Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
    Compared to which bike? Duke 200 and 390 have the bits in bold Identical! See for yourself here

    KTM 200 Duke ABS 2013 - Technical Details

    KTM 390 Duke ABS 2013 - KTM 390 Duke ABS 2013 - Technical Details

    KTM website's Indian version displays slight variations in seat height and ground clearance between 200 and 390

    See: KTM 390 Duke ABS 2013 - KTM 390 Duke ABS 2013 - Technical Details

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  • antz.bin
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    Originally posted by riot View Post
    Duke 390 has lower seat height, longer wheelbase and higher ground clearance. Looks like Bajaj/KTM has changed more than just engine and brakes.
    Compared to which bike? Duke 200 and 390 have the bits in bold Identical! See for yourself here

    KTM 200 Duke ABS 2013 - Technical Details

    KTM 390 Duke ABS 2013 - KTM 390 Duke ABS 2013 - Technical Details

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  • riot
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    Duke 390 has lower seat height, longer wheelbase and higher ground clearance. Looks like Bajaj/KTM has changed more than just engine and brakes.

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  • princesirohi
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    Originally posted by Praful View Post
    But one observation much to my surprise, I find the straight line stability of the P220 to be better than the nervous and twitchy, D200. Its definitely sure footed but will take a while to inspire confidence.
    +1..................

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  • Praful
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    Originally posted by anilupadhya View Post
    OK, compare the chassis that the KTM 200 has with what the RD 350 had. Which is more superior??
    Edit: If you are saying that the 200 mill in itself is pretty maxed out and extracting a 390 from the same mill is curious enough for you.. then i have to agree with you on this.
    Nope, its not if the bike is technically ready to take on the extra power. Can't say that unless I really get to ride one.

    Been riding a friends 200 for the past 2 days, and its almost bordering on brutal, of course in a very 'fun' way. Still, for a bike with same sized tyres, brakes, and a similar frame the 390 will be shit-in-your pants scary. The 200 itself is quite a handful in within the city, I can't imagine how crazy the 390 will be.

    But one observation much to my surprise, I find the straight line stability of the P220 to be better than the nervous and twitchy, D200. Its definitely sure footed but will take a while to inspire confidence.

    Originally posted by VaibhavPisal View Post
    why do you think its on the edge? I myself have taken a test ride but it was not a very long one. Does it gets unstable or floaty at high speeds? For cornering it was decent and had a lot more potential.

    though I feel it will require stickier tires, if it has to handling extra power especially while powering out of corners. otherwise it will get dangerous for someone with not so much experience like me.
    Even with stickier tires, the 390 still makes almost 90% more power.

    The 200 accelerates pretty quickly and stops pretty quickly too, I'm just wondering with faster acceleration how will the brakes and tyres (even if stickier Metzeler rubber) keep up with the crazy torque the 390 would be belting out!

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  • VaibhavPisal
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    Originally posted by Praful View Post
    I'm still finding it hard to digest that the 390 is coming in the same 'everything' as the 200.

    The 200 itself its pretty much 'on-the-edge', curious to see how it handles the bigger motor!
    why do you think its on the edge? I myself have taken a test ride but it was not a very long one. Does it gets unstable or floaty at high speeds? For cornering it was decent and had a lot more potential.

    though I feel it will require stickier tires, if it has to handling extra power especially while powering out of corners. otherwise it will get dangerous for someone with not so much experience like me.
    Last edited by VaibhavPisal; 11-23-2012, 05:09 PM.

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  • antz.bin
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    Originally posted by anilupadhya View Post
    Edit: If you are saying that the 200 mill in itself is pretty maxed out and extracting a 390 from the same mill is curious enough for you.. then i have to agree with you on this.
    Disagree!

    Read this discussion for more details.

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