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KTM Duke 390 ABS Unveiled EDIT: Caught testing near Pune. Pics on page#57

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  • mayank.travadi
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    Originally posted by s_hari View Post
    Yes you are right. P200/D200 and P375/D390 are from different platform. Pasting the extract from one of Rajiv Bajajs interview dt Mar 22, 2012.
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    On the future for the Pulsar, which is now a decade-old:
    We follow a platform strategy. One platform is 125-200cc, from which we make the Pulsars and the KTMbikes. The next platform is 250-350cc, and there will be both brands out of this also. If the Pulsar has to go any further, we need another larger platform, but that would not be right as the Pulsar is not a niche bike like a Harley or a Ducati. So, 350cc may be a good place to stop as of now. Ten years down the line, the Pulsar can go much further.
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    Source : ET
    so probably pulsar 375 will be the last pulsar...and they will go with the UG1 UG2 etc with the new gen pulsars like they did with the p150/180 and probably after a couple of years they may add a higher displacement pulsar but i am sure their bread and butter pulsar models at lower displacement ad difference of 15/30/20/20 cc will remain...

    Originally posted by VaibhavPisal View Post
    ok. somehow i can tell just by common sense that 690 uses a different chassis

    but yes, your point is correct that dimension wise duke 390 is similar to 200, so maybe using same components. am sure if components are reinforced and different, they will be heavier and more expensive.

    my question is a weight difference of 12 kg is because of engine alone or because of chassis and engine ?

    imo if its cause of engine alone, price difference in 200 and 390 won't be much. otherwise it could be much more.
    there is ABS
    there is a bigger engine
    the different and stronger frame(this one is doubtfull)

    cant think of anything else...probably the gearbox??(the gear ratios mentioned on the website are different for 200 and 390 so probably its a new gearbox all together with more weight)

    Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
    with full fairing, ABS and FI...P375 will not go beyond 1.7 lakhs, damn sure.



    do you mean to say Duke 390 in India will sell at a price less than CBR250..???
    Originally posted by ganesh_bbr View Post
    There is a slight difference in the frame between KTM 200 and 390.

    200 uses the Tubular space frame made from steel tubes, powder-coated.
    &
    390 uses the Tubular space frame made from chrome molybdenum steel, powder-coated.
    Not exactly sure what difference it could make.

    Source : KTM Ready to Race
    well they could first price the duke 390 at a price slightly below the cbr250 abs version as an "INTRODUCTORY" price and then hike the price by a good 20-25K(with tax included)

    Steel is basically Iron with a litlle carbon to provide good strength

    adding chrome and molybdenum makes it a even harder steel(no idea about increase in weight or no increase)

    so the frames are different speaking in the type of raw material used...now i don know if the design of the frame is same or not..may be it is but still bajaj has to make new dies and they could make it a bigger frame(the wheel base is surely different so it is a different frame)

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  • mansuryayas
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    Originally posted by ganesh_bbr View Post
    There is a slight difference in the frame between KTM 200 and 390.

    200 uses the Tubular space frame made from steel tubes, powder-coated.
    &
    390 uses the Tubular space frame made from chrome molybdenum steel, powder-coated.
    Not exactly sure what difference it could make.

    Source : KTM Ready to Race
    chrome molybdenum steel is supposedly much stronger, so are they plannng something bigger than the 390 as well

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  • ganesh_bbr
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    There is a slight difference in the frame between KTM 200 and 390.

    200 uses the Tubular space frame made from steel tubes, powder-coated.
    &
    390 uses the Tubular space frame made from chrome molybdenum steel, powder-coated.
    Not exactly sure what difference it could make.

    Source : KTM Ready to Race

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  • princesirohi
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    Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
    Pulsar 375 can be priced anywhere in the region of 1.3 lakhs to 1.7 lakhs depending on equipment levels like FI / ABS / FULL FAIRING...etc
    Originally posted by MG View Post
    The price expectation of Pulsar 375/390 is too low by most of you guys and if I'm not wrong then till 200cc is a series of engine and 375/390cc is a separate series of engine. As mentioned in my earlier post if P375/390 is a naked then I'm expecting a price of 1.5 and for a full faired with ABS around 2lakh.

    A 40-44bhp machine with Full fairing at under 2 lakh is a bargain
    with full fairing, ABS and FI...P375 will not go beyond 1.7 lakhs, damn sure.

    Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
    With just a different engine, the price difference between the Dukes (200 ABS and 390 ABS) is 26k INR
    do you mean to say Duke 390 in India will sell at a price less than CBR250..???

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  • VaibhavPisal
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    Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
    Duke 690 is a dimensionally larger bike than the 390/200/125

    Check difference in:
    1. Wheelbase
    2. GC
    3. Seat height
    4. Front & Rear suspension travel.

    Kinda narrows down the bikes which use a similar chassis/frame/components.
    ok. somehow i can tell just by common sense that 690 uses a different chassis

    but yes, your point is correct that dimension wise duke 390 is similar to 200, so maybe using same components. am sure if components are reinforced and different, they will be heavier and more expensive.

    my question is a weight difference of 12 kg is because of engine alone or because of chassis and engine ?

    imo if its cause of engine alone, price difference in 200 and 390 won't be much. otherwise it could be much more.

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