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  • #31
    ^^^ yes you are right. we never know when things will take an ugly turn.

    i am not at all recomending what i do...to other people as it is already posted as another incident above. that is why my policy is show them that you are angry and disappear from the scene as fast as possible. and when i know i am not faster then him or not stronger then him or they are too many, i dony have any other option but to ignore it. but the question is why ? and how many times ? and what if the spit falls on your wife ? as what happened in that incident reported above. what to do?

    so the question is -what to do ?
    if anybody has any good suggestion, plz share it.
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    • #32
      ^^sad yet true answer, unless your dad is a minister or you are a local goon you can do nothing with the certainty that it wont backfire on you.....

      what we can pray for is better law enforcement that takes initiative to stop people from chewing tobacco and spitting it around in public and actually takes an initiative to handle and contain small accidents before they escalate to huge levels.
      Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!' -Hunter S. Thompson

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      • #33
        Slight OT: The thing is that, its not difficult to be powerful if you're ready to make compromises.

        We can make and establish contacts by working for p. parties,
        We can bribe policemen in our favor by offering it indirectly and create a powerful contact at the same time,
        We can carry weapons, home made molotovs and acid bottles for such street wars, and later get off by threatening witnesses and bribing...

        But what if you're not ready to make compromises on your inner voice? What if we want to live clean, and avoid hurting people? What will happen to the morals? And our children's? Above all that, who would be the extremist: the "neighboring" countries we criticise so much, OR WE, the Indians?


        When I was studying in college, a guy came to me and asked me to join **** group. The work/ benefits I asked?

        He said, you'll just have to shout "ABC zindabad" and "XYZ murdabad" with us at different occasions as we tell you,
        and you'll get the group power to fight against people (one call and we'll reach to fight anyone), free liquor in the night, cigarettes, sometimes petty cash too,
        ...and since you're a rich guy, you'll get girls anytime at our place (we know, for what purpose), for as low as a note of Rs.... anyways leave it.


        I refused. My love for a particular girl in the college and some inner voice, told me to not join all that BS.

        Today I have nothing: no power, not many big contacts, no GF, no love. Just a 9-6 job for 9k a month. But it feels proud to have taken that decision. Somehow... And fortunately, a road rage incident hasn't occurred to me as yet. Let's hope it remains so... Maybe somebody up there was watching me all the time... or maybe not?
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        • #34
          That's really unhuman... what type of monstars could do this...

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          • #35
            @samarth: thats really sad, but the good thing is you dont regtet it coz you have done the right thing according to your inner voice.

            well, something similar happened.to me also, but i know i regret it now.

            and i think these type of situations comes in almost everybody's life atleast once, when everybody gets the oppurtunity to go for something really good in materialistic terms by keep all your ideologies at one side.
            and believe me its not bad to be materialistic at that crucial point. because its good to be a man with good morals and ideologies, but with money and power.

            there's a shlok in sanskrit -
            "shama shobti us bujang ko, jiske pas garal ho....uska kya jo vishheen, dantheen saral ho".
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            • #36
              @samarth

              That was a great thing to do to stand your grounds and not give in to temptations. Power corrupts, and you showed good strength by withstanding the temptation to taste that power.
              I feel good times and bad times come, but the happiness on truly having done something right, that keeps one going.

              Regarding road rage, I have never succumbed to one.

              I remember few years ago once on the outer ring road near Munirka, I was on my swift and a young guy on his Alto brushed along my right side. To make things worse, the guy panicked and did nt apply brakes to scratch both the doors. I was pissed off hugely and got down from the car in anger. The kid was very frightened to the extent that he was literally shivering. Somehow something inside me stopped my fuse from blowing off. I asked the kid if he had license. He said he did nt have a permanent one but had learners license. He was shivering as if he was suffering from an attack of epilepsy. He started saying, he ll pay for all the damages and requested me not to escalate the matter.

              I asked him to calm down, told him I m not the kind who starts fighting on the road nor do I need his money. But next time he may not be getting into me but some one else who may not be as considerate, so its better to hone up his driving skills first then come out on the road and more importantly get his license done. I lectured him for around 10 minutes and asked him to leave.

              I was sad, my car was scratched badly, and it was just two weeks since we had claimed insurance for some accidental repairs. But something inside me told me I did a great thing. When you see somebody more vulnerable in front of you, its very easy to give in to the temptation to dominate. Very easy to get into a show of strength mode, but that day I curtailed my anger.

              The kid would be relieved, may be learnt his lesson too? Maybe tomorrow when he s in my shoes, he ll remember this incident... who knows?
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              • #37
                Very well done, vibbs.
                Sometimes you gotta run before you can walk ! - Tony Stark

                Sometimes in Driving, being patient for a matter of seconds can save your LIFE!

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                • #38
                  Such incidents do shed light on utter lawlessness and cases of false pride.

                  Being riding bikes for over 6 years in a place like pune,bumping into tough unexpected situations was obvious.Once while riding over a suburb at night,I decided to make a proper U turn to return back to my place.I went out of the way of traffic so as to make a safe maneuver and with no traffic in sight made the turn(there were no dividers/u turn points)when a certain (possibly drunk/intoxicated)moron on a pulsar far behind passes me and starts cursing,trying to instigate a brawl.There was no need of that BS as he was a long,long distance away when i was making the turn.The fleabag increased his speed so as to catch up with me telling me to pullover(yeah right).Keeping my cool whilst riding I asked him what his problem was and he replied some gibberish saying he was doing 60 when i passed etc.(all nonsense)i just zoomed ahead on my 220,he simply couldn't catch up

                  Its best to have a presence of mind in such situations,as things tend to turn nasty rather quickly.Just my 2 cents.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by vibbs View Post
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                    The kid would be relieved, may be learnt his lesson too? Maybe tomorrow when he s in my shoes, he ll remember this incident... who knows?
                    I salute your cool head mate! great to know that people of rarest kind are still among us.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                      Slight OT: The thing is that, its not difficult to be powerful if you're ready to make compromises.

                      We can make and establish contacts by working for p. parties,
                      We can bribe policemen in our favor by offering it indirectly and create a powerful contact at the same time,
                      We can carry weapons, home made molotovs and acid bottles for such street wars, and later get off by threatening witnesses and bribing...

                      But what if you're not ready to make compromises on your inner voice? What if we want to live clean, and avoid hurting people? What will happen to the morals? And our children's? Above all that, who would be the extremist: the "neighboring" countries we criticise so much, OR WE, the Indians?


                      When I was studying in college, a guy came to me and asked me to join **** group. The work/ benefits I asked?

                      He said, you'll just have to shout "ABC zindabad" and "XYZ murdabad" with us at different occasions as we tell you,
                      and you'll get the group power to fight against people (one call and we'll reach to fight anyone), free liquor in the night, cigarettes, sometimes petty cash too,
                      ...and since you're a rich guy, you'll get girls anytime at our place (we know, for what purpose), for as low as a note of Rs.... anyways leave it.


                      I refused. My love for a particular girl in the college and some inner voice, told me to not join all that BS.

                      Today I have nothing: no power, not many big contacts, no GF, no love. Just a 9-6 job for 9k a month. But it feels proud to have taken that decision. Somehow... And fortunately, a road rage incident hasn't occurred to me as yet. Let's hope it remains so... Maybe somebody up there was watching me all the time... or maybe not?
                      trust me you're far more powerful than any of these goons...

                      it's good to see that there are a few people who have their sanity and good judgement intact.
                      I hope the good ones never have to go through such things, let the tough guyz fight amongst themselves and self-destruct :P
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                      • #41
                        Tried to calm down three guys beating up a bleeding old auto driver in sr nagar hyderabad on feb 11 2011, I got beat up very bad and they handed me over to d police saying I beat em up.. Onlookers kept quiet and my folks came and paid 1500 inr to d cops to get me out..
                        I still wonder y doing something good backfired so.. my family disapproves of me in everything now quoting that incident.. Please refrain from getting involved in incidents like that..

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                        • #42
                          @ Vibbs: Thanks. And very nice of you to walk away without demanding money.
                          And you're right. Maybe some years later, he'll remember this incident and keep his cool, if faced with such an incident.

                          One thing is for sure: we might face road rage anytime in life, so its better to prepare for it beforehand. Maybe we should laugh off a small incident, offer payment for some loss caused, remain cheerful, or something... In any case, we should act wisely depending on the situation.


                          @ abhi: Thanks man. Yes, in a way you're right. I do have the power to follow my heart and make choices. Those guys who said "yes" to that offer, may have had fun, but they don't have this power right now...


                          @ tejas: That's very sad to know man. But keep doing good, although avoid interfering in a matter you couldn't get full info about. Because it could go either way. Suppose those guys were fighting with the old guy, over some weapons or drugs they were carrying and wanted to hide from the old driver, but couldn't hide it... Then, these guys could have framed YOU into it. And that could've meant serious legal action.
                          Last edited by Samarth 619; 07-08-2012, 07:59 PM.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by tejas85 View Post
                            Tried to calm down three guys beating up a bleeding old auto driver in sr nagar hyderabad on feb 11 2011
                            Rule #1 - When you're not involved in any road incident - JUST WALK AWAY; you just violated that my friend & I hope you learned the lesson...the hard way.
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                            • #44
                              i would consider myself unlucky if i get beaten for having tried to stop three guys beating an old man but that wouldn't stop me for doing it again. maybe that old man was at fault but i am sure those three guys don't have any right to take the law into their hands. they are no one to judge ppl.
                              that said i might be mad for trying to support the old man but that is just me. my conscience would not approve it.
                              but i advise you guys to stay from other things when it doesn't matter to you at all
                              life is hard already. don't get into troubles

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