They might launch D100 with 2 stroke engine and fuel injection.

Technology + Mileage is amazing which in India none of the manufacturer has ever done
Good move there - but is still doubt with the mindset of people only 100cc for this much????

Why 2 stroke ? They want to repeat RX100 success (from Bajaj this time) ?

why not

guys this might be just a rumour, most costly 100 CC bike may not sell well...just my doubt...??

Well, I beg to differ here. Anything that's not been done in the segment so far will automatically make the launched bike technologically advanced in it's segment. Did you notice that they said most technolgically advanced 100cc bike? They can just come with a 110 cc 4-valve engine or speculated 100cc 2 stroke gdi engine & monoshock with additional goodies like front disc brake/tubeless tyres/digi console. That will do the job and justify their claim. A 100 cc bike with FI will cost as much as a Stunner 125 give or take couple of grand. And I don't think that's a viable proposition in India. Honda learned it hard way with Stunner FI.

Though i'm not sure if 2 stroke gdi engine is possible, with ever stricter pollution norms in offing with each passing year. But to say with FI a bike becomes technologically advanced is just not right. It's just another thing on the bike that has it's advantages. As Bajaj demonstrated with P200NS, there are other ways to get things done, may not be better, but very cost effective.

^^ I know you try to differ with me. If you read my post, I was saying about the 'most technologically advanced' only. And if you read the news again, there is also a word 'most expensive'. You can't justify the most expensive tag without Fuel Injection, as FI gives the real benefit to the engine, not just the external show offs. And remember this, yours is a guess, and so is mine.

And, they speak about most expensive, and you talk about cost-effective.

May be it will be a performance bike with awesome mileage!Something light,sporty,flickable in traffic..hoping.I always thought my bike(2002 splendor),has got decent power.But the reason why I was always behind when riding with my friends(they got r15,cbr250,p220,zmr) was because of poor handling,lack of 5th gear(so I have to rev always to keep a constant speed).So I wish Bajaj would launch something with great handling!
My dream is a segment buster like r15.The bike can cost 65k-70k.With both disc brakes,mono shock,naked styling,above 15 bhp power,50km mileage,light and flickable.Am I asking too much?

A 100cc bike is a 100cc bike is a 100cc bike. It can only be as expensive as the cheapest 125. No more.. or else all the advantage is lost. Kinda what happened with the Stunner FI. And anyways, FI is not the only tech India has been lagging behind in.

15bhp from 100cc ? Did you know that the *legendary* Yamaha RX100 made just 11 horses? What you really want is a Dazzler or something.

Anyways, I agree with MHG's analysis because that is the way forward. This will ideally be the downscaled Discover 125 (just like Discover 125ST and Discover 150 make the exact same amount of power). So that gives it breathing space to be priced at par with the current 2-valve Discover 125 which still costs only as much as a HMC Passion Pro. Just because some Japanese manufacturers are scared of using 4-valve on 100cc bikes doesn't mean that BAL cannot be the first one to do it.

It would be even better if they can bring in a GDI fuelled 2-stroker instead of a 4-valve 4-stroke 100cc. But then if wishes were horses, my bike would have had 1000 at least .

Don't tell me you've forgotten the TVS - Suzuki Shadow..!! The last of the 2-stroke screamers with 110cc n 16bhp power output..!!

On the other hand, its possible that the Duke 125's engine has been reduced in size and made into a carb version with the entire body styling based on the Pulsar (remember the original BYK100 which was styled like a scaled down Pulsar 150..??)

My opinion is that it could somewhat resemble the Pulsar as a miniature, a sort of radical 100cc.. Remember the original spy pics of P200 like bike with rear drum brakes..?? It could mean something..

I though we were talking about production motorcycles. Not ones which never made it to production stage. AFAIK, the last of the 2 strokers was the RX135 5-Speed which made just 14bhp (0.5 more than the Pulsar 135LS).

The only reason why you would make an FI+LC 100cc engine is if the Carb+Air cooled 100cc engine cannot pass emission norms. I really don't see the need of all this. At best, with all the best tech in the world, a 4S 100cc engine would struggle to produce 15bhp in street-legal form. If they do manage it, the 15bhp P150 would still cost less to make. Whats the point again?

That could very well be the new gen 150cc replacement for the P180. Or even the SOHCfied 125 Duke block in a Pulsar frame. Such a setup is too upmarket for a 100 odd cc Discover.

The bike is supposed to be launched in Dec/Jan which is just 2-3 months away and till now not even a single spy pic. This is possible only if Bajaj is not testing much in the real world again which which means it might be using the existing components from production bikes. If this is correct then new 100 CC bike should be D100ST and other possibilities are low. It might be called as Discover 100 or might come with new brand name but the internals might be same with discover 125 ST. Its just like P135 using internals from Discover series.

But let our dreams go wild, is there a possibility that this bike might come up with a twin spar chasis which should not cost a bomb for this category of bikes.

From the horses mouth. check out the video. New pulsar next year, I guess the faired one or the 390 pulsar.

I think I should drop in to clarify some facts: How is a 4 spark plug head possible as someone said on the last page? Have a look at the 3 spark plug head and tell me where will be the fourth one:



And 15 bhp? R125 makes 14.5 bhp at a very high and revvy (by single cylinder standards) 9000 rpm or so. Even Duke 125 doesn't make 15 bhp complete. And forget 2 strokes as example. You know how a 100cc 2 stroke is almost equal to 200cc 4 stroke. And I wonder how will the Duke engine be modified to make it a low capacity commuter.

And 2 stroke GDi? Well, something like this was made. Bajaj Sonic. I think Transport authorities didn't approve it, even though it met regulation norms. I think the officers themselves were not aware of the exact rules. So, 2 stroke possibility can be ruled out I believe, unless Bajaj gets some political help. If that happens, we'll be more than happy. But only "if".


I think people should have realistic expectations. Of course, Bajaj is outperforming everyone's expectations, but this bike can't outdrag bigger machines anytime.
Monoshock is a practical option, because it has made appearances on commuter machines since years now.
And some special purpose made low maintenance Fi setup could be a consideration for getting good mileage. LC just doesn't make sense in a commuter- mostly, nobody revvs it that hard.

Thanks for the video bprags. As per Bajaj it seems the brand name is not yet decided. It can be Platina, Discover or even a new one. He says lets people keep guessing as it gives the product more PR.

Other pointers are
New pulsar in 2013, four products from KTM and kawaski, and new range of three wheelers in 2013 to replace exisiting entire auto line up and the finally the RE60.

Busy year ahead for Bajaj.