re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

I'm also saying the same thing that it feels faster than the three bikes mentioned. Back to back riding will make you feel that the other bikes are slow to move from standstill

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Originally Posted by splus That's exactly why I asked that question. I had bikes with delayed acceleration and when I want to have a quick overtake it starts accelerating only when I already need to start SLOWING down because of another vehicle in front. Which isn't handy for such blitz overtakings. That's why I used the word "catapult", where most of the acceleration is at the very start, and you need to start slowing down literally before the overtake is finished.
But I suppose D390 will pull instantly too if in power band above 5k rpm. I guess, at least!

Duke 390 has amazing power. When you try a drag with D200, D390 will smoke it away. In traffic you can hardly find where the D390 is. It zoooooooms (you will be like, I just saw it going next to me, where it is now) It has amazing power from 1st gear. Its only how you use it. When I ripped the 390 properly, I felt like I am loosing the grip from the accelerator and leaning backwards. Its pickup is amazing. I took a proper test drive I am pretty sure that it has amazing pickup. From standstill in second gear it was like 1st gear in CBR 250.

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News


I think I was mentioning about Power delivery. Yes, D390 is way fast than the bikes mentioned above....

I said D390 feels like a CBR250 or a Ninja 300 rather than a grown up D200 relaxed and composed instead of aggressive and impatient.

Ok, to make it clear a couple of guys after having tested D390 and after having owned a D200, P230 and other bikes, were expecting D390 to be same like D200 but lot more power and torque to play with. (when i say same I mean the way it hits the red line, the way it makes power, the aggression)

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

This is a completely wrong perception and Duke 390 feels and goes way faster than all the bikes mentioned above

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Still no test ride available where I am so I have to ask here...
I'm just basically trying to figure out the character of the bike. I don't necessarily have to stay with D200's character, I can get used to little more relaxed style, but I personally prefer a strong pick up much more than high speed.

That's exactly why I asked that question. I had bikes with delayed acceleration and when I want to have a quick overtake it starts accelerating only when I already need to start SLOWING down because of another vehicle in front. Which isn't handy for such blitz overtakings. That's why I used the word "catapult", where most of the acceleration is at the very start, and you need to start slowing down literally before the overtake is finished.
But I suppose D390 will pull instantly too if in power band above 5k rpm. I guess, at least!


Yes, exactly.
From all I've read and some videos I've seen I'm getting an impression that D390 isn't that slow to pull, but it just FEELS like it has slower acceleration because it doesn't make much exhaust sound and fuss about it.
For example, ride in a Mercedes at 200 kmh on a highway, and it won't feel much different than Indica at 80 kmh.
Or ride a small 50cc TVS at 50 kmh and you'll feel you're going blazing fast. It's all relative.

I think test rides of all bikes should be taken with good earplugs to get an accurate impression. That's why I feel 2 strokes and Bullets are little over rated (2 stroke lovers, don't bash me for that, it's just my opinion and experience), just because they make much more sound about their acceleration, but if you look at the actual speed they don't go nearly as fast as it feels. D200 is little bit like this as well, it's quite loud when it pulls.
i have a feeling D390 just does it in quieter and easier way, so it just FEELS and SOUNDS like it's lacking a bit, but it doesn't. Or at least not as much as it might feel.


Yes, I'm well aware of the torque facts.
And I'm also aware you can tune the same engine differently to deliver the power in different ways, faster or slower, less or more, basically making the facts much more relative.

But yes, I agree, there's a lot of psychological feeling here in play because D390 delivers its power in a more relaxed way.

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Went to check the 390(again) to the showroom today, and observed the bike closely (side by side) to the 200. The guy at the store said, he had driven it for a short distance and he felt like a jet with all after burners on shot of an elastic band holding it. He ways around 60 kg, that was enough to keep me
The seats on the 390 are definitely softer than on 200 and the same goes for the suspension. I sat on the both parked next to each other(jumped a bit) and could feel the softer suspension and seat immediately. What concerns me is the cost of the Metzlers upward of 21K which they said MRF's costing 8K are as good for almost all purposes.

So in short I would be able to safely overtake almost 99.50% of the vehicles on road whenever I want to.

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

[MENTION=10771]flyingabhi[/MENTION] - I live at Dahisar and i went to Navi Mumbai for the reveal and booking. Sales and After sales are good based on what i have heard from numerous xBhpians. Also met their service manager during the reveal and seemed to be a good bloke and well versed with KTM's based on service experience of Existing 200 owners . I booked from Vashi and have been looked after well. Speak to Virendra Negi - Showroom Manager.

Awaiting Elixir.

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

I think he is not asking that. He is talking about throttle response. Yes, the numbers are mighty impressive, and yes it is also very fast, but he wants to know how that power and torque is delivered.

I guess we are just going round and round. At the end of the day D390 is lot more powerful than D200, but power delivery is more like than CBR 250R, Ninja 300 rather than the D200.

Now, will Bajaj let the reviews flow and let those D390's run amock. The wait is just too long. If it is due to strike, then I think theres no definite timeline until Bajaj starts KTM production elsewhere.

I think all the Auto companies shud have a backup facility like in IT you have Business Continuity Plan and forming of Union should be banned.

IT is doing great without Union and stuff.

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News


When it comes to pickup or overtaking, we need to talk about Torque rather than BHP's which is 35nm Vs 19nm. It is almost double the torque that is made by D200 with just 15kg heavier. So you can make your calculations.

I feel it is psychological feeling that D390 is slower than D200. Being a bigger engine you will not feel that rush, but it is actually going faster before you realize it. Added to its taller gearing it will be great bike to use in cities and will be an apt tourer if you carefully plan your fuel stops.

Whatever the delay is happening for the reviews or delivery of the bikes, at the end it is good for the customers.

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News


My dear, I'll just say this...

You are unnecessarily digging too deep in the numbers. You don't have to. No matter what the character is, the 390 will still be hugely satisfying for anyone upgrading from a lower capacity motorcycle including the d200 (generally speaking). Yes I said it there. You need to relax.

Overtaking on 390 will be easier than on 200 if that is all you want to know.

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Ran out of features to talk about.. Guys any feature that comes to mind that can be discussed until reviews. I have swallowed up every review out there on the net and now there are no more links present that I havn't seen at least thrice.

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Navi mumbai has fewer bookings. U'll get the bike earlier from there. You can always service at kanjurmarg. South mumbai ktm showroom is good but too far for you

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re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Mumbai expert please help: From where I should book 390, i live in kandivali, kanjurmarg showroom is near but they don't have testdrive bike navi mumbai is far from kandivali.Which showroom/service center is better of the two in terms of quick delivery and service?

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

At least a date on when we could expect the xbhp review report please???

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

You are talking about throttle response, I guess. Yes you are right. But, D390 is a lot relaxed, and hence even if it does 80, you feel like you are still doing 60. Hence, it will take time to adjust to that. While on a D200, it feels like it is doing 80, when it is actually on 80.

Hence you might feel like that.