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**genxt** · 07-19-2013, 12:02 PM

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KTM Duke 390 first ride review

Excellent review!!

Some highlights:

1. Top speed of speedo indicated 166 kmph and GPS indicated 161 kmph with a 95 kilo rider.
2. Windblast post 140 kmph is a concern.
3. Headlight not sufficient past 110 kmph.
4. Easily reaches 155 kmph on speedo.
5. Metzeler tyres are brilliant.
6. Clutch is more springy and hence easier to shift gears than on D200.
7. Less vibrations than D200.

**Syed Zakir Ahamed** · 07-19-2013, 12:30 PM

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Now where is our Review Now? plz plz plz... @MG

**dishayu** · 07-19-2013, 01:53 PM

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Originally posted by vidhya View Post

How are you guys planning to break-in new 390 engine?

After a lot of Googling, I'm planing hard break-in as explained in - Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

Please let me know if anyone has faced any issues with this method.

I personally used the method my 200 Duke and the engine feels super sweet till date. I whole heartedly recommend this method and will be using it for all my bikes in the future. My bike feels more rev happy than my friend's 200 duke who does everything "by the book" (although admittedly, he has done twice the kilometers).

Originally posted by socialdistortion View Post

What works for some may not work for you. That said the manufacturer's way is much safer since millions follow it every year and it is mostly successful (else there would be lots of bad press around failure rates).

But if things have to go wrong, they will. Just warm up the engine well before heading off.

How do you define succesful? If the engine doesn't die in 5000km does that count as success to you? As long as you take it to service at regular intervals and use the consumables as required (filters, oils etc), It is nearly impossible to kill a modern road-legal-spec engine even if you are proactively trying to do so.

Agreed with warming up the engine before heading off and that applies during the run in and also once running-in period is complete.

**AmitRavi07** · 07-19-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by dishayu View Post

I personally used the method my 200 Duke and the engine feels super sweet till date. I whole heartedly recommend this method and will be using it for all my bikes in the future. My bike feels more rev happy than my friend's 200 duke who does everything "by the book" (although admittedly, he has done twice the kilometers).

How do you define succesful? If the engine doesn't die in 5000km does that count as success to you? As long as you take it to service at regular intervals and use the consumables as required (filters, oils etc), It is nearly impossible to kill a modern road-legal-spec engine even if you are proactively trying to do so.

Agreed with warming up the engine before heading off and that applies during the run in and also once running-in period is complete.

So, you are saying that you ran it hard and then changed the oil after around 100kms, with the oil being non-synthetic till the first service. Has any one else experience with MotoMans break-in method?

**dishayu** · 07-19-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by AmitRavi07 View Post

So, you are saying that you ran it hard and then changed the oil after around 100kms, with the oil being non-synthetic till the first service. Has any one else experience with MotoMans break-in method?

Ran it ultra hard for 60km, changed oil (bajaj dtsi, which is semi synthetic) and oil filter. Used my bike normally without any reservations (mix of normal and hard riding) and then changed to Motul 300V at first service (although my mileage was pretty low... around 1000 km).

Edit : Everyone who advocates running-in by the book, even for them, I suggest an oil and oil filter change at 100km. Worst case scenario... It won't affect the engine and you'll be 500 bucks or so poorer. Best case scenario, will do your engine a world of good.

**lathiwala_99** · 07-19-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by AmitRavi07 View Post

So, you are saying that you ran it hard and then changed the oil after around 100kms, with the oil being non-synthetic till the first service. Has any one else experience with MotoMans break-in method?

This is indeed a very controversial break-in method of the new engine. More light is required from the experienced riders on this topic.

**AmitRavi07** · 07-19-2013, 04:59 PM

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Originally posted by lathiwala_99 View Post

This is indeed a very controversial break-in method of the new engine. More light is required from the experienced riders on this topic.

Found a thread where this has been discussed in detail: Engine Break in Process and Methods - View Poll Results

Sorry that was the poll results. Here's the link: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...methods-2.html

**genxt** · 07-19-2013, 05:01 PM

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Good sound comparison. You can feel the difference in this one unlike other videos.
KTM Duke 200 v/s KTM Duke 390 - Sound Comparison - YouTube

**jackofsome** · 07-19-2013, 05:02 PM

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

I have a different take to the motoman method of break in which i actually used when I bought the 09 Pulsar 220 dtsi.. And i found out i could max the bike to 135 not more.Taking into consideration I was just a 60 Kg rider then. So in my observation it was bad for my bike i guess. Of course I will stick to Manufacturer's recommendation henceforth.

**vidhya** · 07-19-2013, 07:19 PM

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Very interesting discussion on motoman's break in method - Everyone seems to support it.

For those who did the MotoMan break-in on the street - ADVrider

I guess we just need to make sure that engine doesn't heat too much even when you break-in hard...

**jackofsome** · 07-19-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by vidhya View Post

Very interesting discussion on motoman's break in method - Everyone seems to support it.

For those who did the MotoMan break-in on the street - ADVrider

I guess we just need to make sure that engine doesn't heat too much even when you break-in hard...

Exactly on the contrary I got bad results maybe due to not changing the oil after first 100 kms as everyone mentioned?

**dishayu** · 07-19-2013, 07:52 PM

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

Originally posted by jackofsome View Post

Exactly on the contrary I got bad results maybe due to not changing the oil after first 100 kms as everyone mentioned?

First of all, 135 kph seems to be in league with the ballpark top speed of P220, I don't see the problem. And just raping your engine senselessly is not "motoman's method". You have to use the entire rev range, don't cruise on constant revs, use engine braking, make sure to not overheat the engine and you HAVE to change oil and the filter super early.

PS : Too much offtopic discussion already, can we take this topic elsewhere?

**jackofsome** · 07-19-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by dishayu View Post

First of all, 135 kph seems to be in league with the ballpark top speed of P220, I don't see the problem. And just raping your engine senselessly is not "motoman's method". You have to use the entire rev range, don't cruise on constant revs, use engine braking, make sure to not overheat the engine and you HAVE to change oil and the filter super early.

Did most of them except for the oil change. But ya, makes sense.
Lets get back to the Duke now.

**riot** · 07-20-2013, 12:11 AM

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

I broke in my Classic Pulsar 200 the motoman way. Though i didnt change the oil at 100kms. It runs like a charm. Engine still feels as good as new and she pops wheelies in 2nd gear like a dream.

The most important part is to Warm up the engine before you let it rip and use a lot of engine breaking. I am always on engine braking so i think that helped too.

When you first start up the bike let it warm up for few mins. Take that time to clean ur bike and strap on ur riding gear.

**dr.mayanksingh** · 07-20-2013, 12:17 AM

re: KTM Duke 390 Launched in India at Rs 1.8 Lakhs: xBhp News

i found good timepass video watched it 4 times before posting , love the sound
KTM 390 Duke India first ride & stock exhaust sound - YouTube

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