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1: instantaneously? Thats the wrong term. Such issues need a long term planning. Not instantaneous knee jerk reactions

2: Yes. And telling people to use public transport is NOT one of them. Vehicles contribute only 9% Cars not to blame for Delhi pollution | The Financial Express

Lets take care of the other 91%, shall we?

Yes. Just as stupid as forcing people to travel by public transport. Maybe slightly less stupid than this odd even rule.

3: Kucch toh log kahenge. Logon ka kaam hai kehna.
And if you live your life trying to justify your decisions to the world, You, fellow xbhp-ian, are going to have a hard time.

4: I think I'll take the recommendations of the IIT study, TYSM. Stick to the rules we must, but criticizm of a stupid rule is no offence. And neither is calling a spade a spade

5: Therein lies the problem. The babus are often the most clueless of the lot. Infact, 90% of the people who get into bureaucracy know nothing about the functioning of the world. They just cram their subjects, clear Civil Services, and fart in their chairs all day. The govt employment system of this country does not reward a greater amount of common sense, and that is a sad state of affairs.

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that is what i have been saying.. it takes time, but time alone will not automatically fix issues. some effort and implementations will have to be done, and undone if necessary and tweaked to see improvement over time.
you still haven't given us any brilliant ideas to reduce pollution or passed the civils.. i would let the farts in the chairs continue till then.

I've said enough, and will stay out of this discussion henceforth.

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By long term solutions I mean Euro 6 vehicles, Euro VI fuel, scrapping 15 year old commercial vehicles etc. Not banning private vehicles. Why ban pvt. vehicles? Why allow these OLA cabs, which are diesel to run? Why are yellow plate vehicles exempt? There are way too many issues with the rules for me to comment.

How much PM does a 200cc motorcycle produce? How much does a diesel car produce? I can safely say that diesel car produces about 5-7 times a 200cc bike.
Why should they be treated equally?

And are you having understanding and comprehension issues? I said my "brilliant ideas" are the same as given by IIT Kanpur.

And as for the remarks on my intellectual prowess, I'll ignore them these time, and advise you to stay within your limits the next time.

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Very entertaining, pls carry on this is great timepass

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You're welcome.

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Diesel cabs were banned earlier but were given some months relaxation.According to the ngt orders all the diesel cab will have to be converted to cng by April '16.
there are two major metro lines being completed by the end of this year.which will ease a lot of traffic on the ring road and the outer ring road.

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Heard that all app based taxis will be converted to CNG from Diesel. It should help a lot.


Though large scale conversion to CNG is again not a solution as CNG vehicles release pollution(or gases) which can cause cancer.

A study by CSIR -
CNG-run vehicles emit dangerous nanocarbon, CSIR study finds - The Times of India

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People please stick to the topic at hand and not get into politics. This is after all a motorcycling forum.

For everything else you have social media

Thanks for helping maintain the decorum and sanity of xBhp!

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I meant "bikers", and not "motorcyclists".
For most of the people you mentioned, their motorcycle is just a machine that takes them from point A to B in exchange of petrol.
Sadly, they will never join Xbhp or any community ever, and thus their contribution to the cause is all that they do individually, that's it.. They will never be a group because there's no one to coordinate them.

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A suggestion- as an alternative to the odd even rule or an addition to it can be- imposing fine to ppl who travel solo in a car, obviously per capita carbon footprint of that person is much more than anybody else travelling in a normal two wheeler, it not only increases pollution, but also creates traffic problem and consumes much more fuel. and use that money to build better public transportation infrastructure.

and all that glitters is not gold, all that looks like pollution is not actually pollution in delhi, a large part of it is pure dust and particulate matter due to the kind of soil delhi and neighboring areas have.

and yes, just like Hyperretard, i am also a jeremy clarkson, 95% of ppl in my office in mumbai come by local or metro, i go by bike and thats my choice, as simple as that. the reason i hate to travel iin public transport is due to the conditions similar to photos shared by hyper retard, and the reason for such heavy crowd is....population.

in our country, population is the root cause of majority of problems.

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This is a post so connected to my own thoughts, that I thought I had written all this...

I think its a great as well as a practical suggestion to fine people who travel alone. They should be encouraged to use 2 wheelers of any sort. It will help, a little maybe, but it will.

I saw a video few days back, which showed 3 photo frames:- One with people in cars, one with people on bikes, and another one with people on cycles. The location was the same:- A Traffic signal. They counted the number of people in the same particular space.
For cars it was 32 or so people (4 people/car).
For bikes, they were around 60-64 people.
For cycles, around 130. In the same space.
And you know what, the way the video was presented, I'm convinced that its the solution. People have to do it for themselves, government can't do everything.

But there's a problem with this scheme:- How will you know if a person is not picking up someone on the way? If I travel from say, Faridabad to Patparganj to get some guys, after which we go to Shakarpur to our workplace, and some cops catch me before Patparganj, what should I say being alone? And how will cops manage this situation?
If we can find solution to this problem, then its a workable practical plan.

Non-democratically, we can let it be as it is, so that car owners use bikes in daytime, and for evening rides, take their neighbors along just to fill space.
This suggestion needs to be worked upon..

I remember few years or months ago, there was a policy whereby car owners had to show personal parking spaces to keep owning cars. I hope it has not expired?

I disagree slightly. From what I remember about Delhi, its ok to be there. But pollution is pollution, maybe its from the industries if not vehicles, but it is there.
Nothing unbearable though. Soil might be a reason, but not so much in urban locations.

Public transport is good, if it can carry the load. In New Delhi, let us admit, it can't, at least for now. Buses are overcrowded. Trains too.

And what you say about population is to the point. My dad has been lecturing in Rajasthan's schools and colleges on environment and this topic specifically.
There's something wrong with Delhi's air. Maybe people just got used to, but its the truth... Something is wrong with it.

I lived in Ghaziabad (near Delhi) many many years back. And living there, maybe it kind of made me "cold"...
I've seen people dying, I've heard my own dad saying that a man's skull was burst open, as he fell from a bus' door. Sometimes some fool travels on the EMU (Local train) roof and catches that 25000 volt line above it and catches heaven's route engulfed in flames, or they die while crossing the tracks, or some other guy hangs on for dear life on those EMU's wide open train doors, and trusts a stranger.. that the stranger won't wiggle him off, to the lurking death below.


Then, I come to Ajmer and there's nothing like that. Small city. No big shops or malls. Just a 20 km ride to see lakes & deserts & hills & forests. And people have respect for life too. Neighbors know each other by face and name. They help each other out too. Of course they interfere too, but its so livable. Don't know how, but it is. Everything's so cheap that you can sell your apartment of big city, get a bungalow here, and live almost a King's life. Its a city to retire in!
Jaipur, on the other hand, is between these 2 extremes, a bit busy, but not like Delhi.

I know I missed some good points of big cities, but surely its the population that creates this stark difference.. Population is more of a problem than help. Definitely it is. But its nothing solveable in the short term though. It needs long term (and may I say, non democratic) intervention.

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We are going through the pains of development and it's beginning to show. It will get a lot worse before it starts to get better if it does at all, and that may take a long time, may be a decade or even more.

The huge population migrating to cities combined with more disposable income is driving this problem which is exacerbated by our stagnating political institutions and almost non-existent urban planning.

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Irrespective of the news reports on tv and newspapers. I have HEARD good personal accounts from people who were on the road as well as people using public transport.

There was no congestion on the roads, commute times were almost halved. They described it as if driving/ riding on a Sunday.

People in public transport feared the worst, expecting to get mobbed during rush hour. Fortunately that wasn't the case. And this is on a Monday, after three days off. Normally, commutes take more time on Mondays.

I have no personal experience to share of my own, since i live 100 metres away from my office I walk!

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Ahh! that is the secret to your fitness

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Whether pollution gets reduced or not (which I feel won't to a great extent because private vehicles don't cause the big chunk of it), traffic congestion would be reduced.
Our govt should be stern enough. Make owning cars a luxury (like Singapore). But at the same time provide good public transportation.
Given the current scene in DL/BLR, I would't want to travel in cramped smelly buses or eat dust and dirt for 2 hours on my motorcycle. I take my car to avoid getting sick!