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  • #31
    Originally posted by payeng View Post
    By the way even TVS had applied for Patent for its "Economy - Power" mode indicator lights and for the "Lockable Storage Compartment" on the Flame

    In the end its all Business..


    If thats the case, it s not fair critisizing Bajaj alone
    When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Joel View Post
      The RTR does not have a resonator since Jan 2008. No other TVS models have it except the TVS scooty Teenz 2-stroke and the TVS XL super 2-stroke which has a resonator since their launch in 1995 and 1997 respectively. Bajaj had then no clue of what the hell a resonance chamber was.
      now they are talking about technology like as if re-invented the wheel.
      The twin spark ignition is a world over tend to improve combustion and reduce emissions. The Honda has the i-DSI engines and so do a lot other makers. Bajaj claims they are the first to make a small engine with this tech. Do you need some superficial brains to replicate the tech on a multicylinder engine onto a lowsy pulsar head?
      Anyways, TVS still beat Bajaj in their own game. Even with the so called DTSi tech, their 150/180 can stand no chance against a stock RTR which has a single plug and the most basic engine layout.
      All this tech-gizmo bling bling is to get new customers.

      The TVS flame has one of the best designed cylinder heads, and the twin spark tech was to improvise the swirl combustion. So why didnt they stop RE when they did it to the bullets?
      Such crap logic can only sell in India. I wonder which court in India closed matters in favour of Bajaj. Damn, didnt twin spark ever exist before bajaj?

      FYI a resonance box is a chamber which is used to boost the low-end-mid character of an engine while the engine is a bit peaky in nature otherwise. Its not gonna give you any extra horses and also the top-speed is always a restriction on engines with a resonance chamber.
      Let bajaj fight this new exhaustec crap. Who cares!

      You are right,they seem to be the only one who makes motorcycles and sack employees for news.I will sell my p180 soon and go for RTR180.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
        You are right,they seem to be the only one who makes motorcycles and sack employees for news.I will sell my p180 soon and go for RTR180.
        Was that sarcasm or were u serious about that
        When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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        • #34
          Thank God i have got a RTR way before it gets a change in something in it.
          Otherwise maybe someday i would have thought of buying a Pulsar?
          Never upgrade without getting your basics RIGHT.

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          • #35
            Man.....Bajaj has gone bonkers....instead of launching good bikes...its selling some crap courtroom story to us customers....also will these lead to any design changes in the RTR's????

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            • #36
              Bajaj better start concentrating on increasing its bike sales, just check out march sales of Bajaj, its going down and down.

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              • #37
                Coming up Next...

                Bajaj applies patent for the rear wheel .... its a unique technology which makes a uni cycle a two wheeler... crap!

                Hero Honda should probably apply for a patent for decals, they have been using that technology (succesfully) for a long time now!
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                  Coming up Next...

                  Bajaj applies patent for the rear wheel .... its a unique technology which makes a uni cycle a two wheeler... crap!

                  Hero Honda should probably apply for a patent for decals, they have been using that technology (succesfully) for a long time now!
                  LOL....!!

                  Bajaj has become Rakhee Sawant of automobile industry now.
                  Well Bajaj has provided one of the legendary bikes for this country, But they are so struck with it and went out of options that they brought down different displacements on the same architecture or blueprint.

                  With sales going down month by month (around 16% fall cmpared to last month), They are trying to serach for options with useless patent things.

                  Now I thin bajaj will sue TVS and will tell them to removed exhausts from their bikes
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by riazmomin View Post

                    With sales going down month by month (around 16% fall cmpared to last month), They are trying to serach for options with useless patent things.
                    "Message to BAJAJ Auto"

                    Helloo..Please don't resort to this cheap publicity stunt to gain people's attention.Post-Flame Episode did make a dent on 'your' sales rather than other way around.It's creating a Boomerang effect on your sales.Just take the current thread's response(negative) as a small sample in your marketing research exercise.

                    Be in the news for good reasons, not for BAD reasons.Demeaning others on un-accountable affairs is a serious issue and please refrain from it and do a proper homework before going the whole hog in battling it out in courts.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                      Coming up Next...

                      Hero Honda should probably apply for a patent for decals, they have been using that technology (succesfully) for a long time now!
                      How can you forget "RED" colour patent by Hero Honda????
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Joel View Post
                        The RTR does not have a resonator since Jan 2008. No other TVS models have it except the TVS scooty Teenz 2-stroke and the TVS XL super 2-stroke which has a resonator since their launch in 1995 and 1997 respectively. Bajaj had then no clue of what the hell a resonance chamber was.
                        now they are talking about technology like as if re-invented the wheel.
                        The twin spark ignition is a world over tend to improve combustion and reduce emissions. The Honda has the i-DSI engines and so do a lot other makers. Bajaj claims they are the first to make a small engine with this tech. Do you need some superficial brains to replicate the tech on a multicylinder engine onto a lowsy pulsar head?
                        Anyways, TVS still beat Bajaj in their own game. Even with the so called DTSi tech, their 150/180 can stand no chance against a stock RTR which has a single plug and the most basic engine layout.
                        All this tech-gizmo bling bling is to get new customers.

                        The TVS flame has one of the best designed cylinder heads, and the twin spark tech was to improvise the swirl combustion. So why didnt they stop RE when they did it to the bullets?
                        Such crap logic can only sell in India. I wonder which court in India closed matters in favour of Bajaj. Damn, didnt twin spark ever exist before bajaj?

                        FYI a resonance box is a chamber which is used to boost the low-end-mid character of an engine while the engine is a bit peaky in nature otherwise. Its not gonna give you any extra horses and also the top-speed is always a restriction on engines with a resonance chamber.
                        Let bajaj fight this new exhaustec crap. Who cares!
                        Right said.
                        In the end Bajaj is a Marketing company rather than being an Engineering company. TVS is an Engineering Company, so is Honda.

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                        • #42
                          Gentlemen where does the news report states that BAL plans to sue TVS for for patent infringment, it just informs two things:

                          1. Exhaustec by BAL has been approved by Patent office.

                          2. BAL had sent notice to TVS motors in 2007, come-on 2 years ago! It doesnt mention that BAL will drag TVS to court or approach court for any order.

                          So come on, let them act first and lets then criticize.

                          I expect BAL to launch new products in colloboration with Kawasaki and BAL and not waste their time/money in such minor issues.

                          @Joel: Remember we had big long fight here in xBhp and finally ruling in favour of TVS in twin spark issue, but sadly that didnt work in our legal system.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by setuniket View Post
                            Gentlemen where does the news report states that BAL plans to sue TVS for for patent infringment, it just informs two things:

                            1. Exhaustec by BAL has been approved by Patent office.

                            2. BAL had sent notice to TVS motors in 2007, come-on 2 years ago! It doesnt mention that BAL will drag TVS to court or approach court for any order.

                            So come on, let them act first and lets then criticize.
                            Exactly.Few People here are ready to pounce on BAL ; jumping on to conclusions, without even reading the article first.
                            When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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                            • #44
                              TVS responds says "No impact of bajaj's patent on its products, the media has confused DTSI with the exhaustec".

                              Check the bottom of this image, its taken from DNA Bangalore edition.

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                              • #45
                                Another Media Goof up..??


                                At least this thread has shown that the goodwill of BAL has eroded a bit in the minds of a few bikers..

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