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  • #61
    NEWS: TVS Motor Company is not infringing on patent granted to Bajaj

    /India PRwire/ - Sections of the press have carried news reports based on the press release made by M/s Bajaj Auto Limited titled ‘Bajaj Granted "ExhausTEC" Patent’ dated 2nd April 2009.

    Our comments and clarifications are as follows:

    1. TVS Motor Company is not infringing on the said patent and the grant of this patent has no impact on our business as none of the products of the company utilise the saidtechnology.

    2. The patent granted to Bajaj Auto is for "ExhausTEC", which is a chamber fitted on the exhaust pipe. It has nothing to do with "DTSi twin spark" technology. They are twoseparate patents and are not linked to each other.

    3. DTSi technology involves the use of two spark plugs in the cylinder head, which is part of the engine.

    4. "ExhausTEC" is not fitted on the engine but is fitted in the exhaust pipe and refers to an additional chamber (box) that is created in the exhaust pipe through which exhaustgases are dispensed.

    5. Bajaj Auto filed the "ExhausTEC" patent in 2004 and the subsequent patent application was published in the Indian Patent Gazette in 2007. TVS Motor opposed this in the IndianPatent Office. It was only because of TVS Motors opposition that Bajaj had to amend their claims and the claim as amended was subsequently granted to Bajaj.

    We hereby firmly state that some persons in the media seem to have been misled into believing that a correlation exists between "DTSi twin spark" technology and "ExhausTEC". In reality they are two independent technologies with separate patents and these technologies are not used by TVS Motor Company in any of its products.


    Cecil Dewars
    Vice President – Corporate Communications
    Source: Press release distribution via India PRwire



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    • #62
      Bajaj has noting to but to fight.
      First fight for twinspark and then for exhustec .
      And for wat bajaj will fight i think for stickers on bike or something else
      I don;t understand wat Bajaj want and what they are doing.
      Their sale have gone very down and they have slipped from number-2 to number-4.
      adn doing nothing just fighting.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by insanebiker View Post
        Now wat was that all about

        Everything was going on fine i guess.

        P.s: The next time u or someone wants to give me some gyaan , better PM me rather than hijacking the topic
        Mr. InsaneBiker
        wat are trying to prove that you are very cool at insulting people .
        If somebody said you something why don't you take it healthily instead to of using insane statements

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        • #64
          Originally posted by sayan
          plz stop insulting ppl here......this not a insulting place.

          P.S. - OMG!!!!!!
          this pulsar thread is increasing & no sign of Updated PULSAR????????
          who is insulting whom.
          and
          sayan
          are you in your senses this is not the pulsar thread you are looking for
          it is thread for "Exhaustec Patent to Bajaj Auto. TVS Apache RTR in Trouble? "

          Last edited by tulsidaskhan99; 04-08-2009, 05:40 PM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by sukant08 View Post
            B|uddy I was not giving any gyaan. Sorry if I offended you. I consider myself not even nearly knowledgeable enuff to give gyan to others !!
            All I meant was if, someone is blowing steam, usually he/she is so adament bout his/her point that no use arguing with them !! So sit back and enjoy the show of him blowing steam thats it !!
            Cool bro! Sorry for misreading ur post.

            Originally posted by tulsidaskhan99 View Post
            Mr. InsaneBiker
            wat are trying to prove that you are very cool at insulting people .
            If somebody said you something why don't you take it healthily instead to of using insane statements
            Come on man, dont make me feel that i am talking to a kid

            BTW,coming to ur post, Whom dd i insult and where?
            When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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            • #66
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Joel View Post
                The RTR does not have a resonator since Jan 2008. No other TVS models have it except the TVS scooty Teenz 2-stroke and the TVS XL super 2-stroke which has a resonator since their launch in 1995 and 1997 respectively. Bajaj had then no clue of what the hell a resonance chamber was.
                now they are talking about technology like as if re-invented the wheel.
                The twin spark ignition is a world over tend to improve combustion and reduce emissions. The Honda has the i-DSI engines and so do a lot other makers. Bajaj claims they are the first to make a small engine with this tech. Do you need some superficial brains to replicate the tech on a multicylinder engine onto a lowsy pulsar head?
                Anyways, TVS still beat Bajaj in their own game. Even with the so called DTSi tech, their 150/180 can stand no chance against a stock RTR which has a single plug and the most basic engine layout.
                All this tech-gizmo bling bling is to get new customers.

                The TVS flame has one of the best designed cylinder heads, and the twin spark tech was to improvise the swirl combustion. So why didnt they stop RE when they did it to the bullets?
                Such crap logic can only sell in India. I wonder which court in India closed matters in favour of Bajaj. Damn, didnt twin spark ever exist before bajaj?

                FYI a resonance box is a chamber which is used to boost the low-end-mid character of an engine while the engine is a bit peaky in nature otherwise. Its not gonna give you any extra horses and also the top-speed is always a restriction on engines with a resonance chamber.
                Let bajaj fight this new exhaustec crap. Who cares!
                Phew! That's some hatred for Bajaj!
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                • #68
                  Even with the so called DTSi tech, their 150/180 can stand no chance against a stock RTR which has a single plug and the most basic engine layout.

                  Originally posted by silver_falcon_46 View Post
                  Phew! That's some hatred for Bajaj!
                  +1
                  When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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                  • #69
                    ^ Since when was calling a spade a spade termed as 'hatred'?

                    Without any doubts what so ever, I do admire Bajaj for what they did with Pulsar... and So do I admire TVS for the RTR... but whats happening now from the Bajaj house is sheer madness! I am surprised that the so called industry experts who grant patents are granting patents to existing technologies....
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                      ^ Since when was calling a spade a spade termed as 'hatred'?
                      Well, That was when somebody said a 180 doesnt even stand a chance to a RTR.

                      Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                      Without any doubts what so ever, I do admire Bajaj for what they did with Pulsar... and So do I admire TVS for the RTR... but whats happening now from the Bajaj house is sheer madness! I am surprised that the so called industry experts who grant patents are granting patents to existing technologies....
                      point taken!

                      But when TVS can apply patents for Lockable storage space in the fuel tank as in Flame, and also for Eco and Power mode LEDs, Why cant Bajaj apply for DTS-i,etc Though the Exhaustec hoopla was a media goof up.

                      And patents are Country specific FYI. And bajaj brought in DTS-i first in India for bikes and hold the patent for engines between 75cc~250cc.
                      Last edited by insanebiker; 04-10-2009, 01:29 PM.
                      When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by insanebiker View Post
                        Well, That was when somebody said a 180 doesnt even stand a chance to a RTR.


                        point taken!

                        But when TVS can apply patents for Lockable storage space in the fuel tank as in Flame, and also for Eco and Power mode LEDs, Why cant Bajaj apply for DTS-i,etc Though the Exhaustec hoopla was a media goof up.

                        And patents are Country specific FYI. And bajaj brought in DTS-i first in India for bikes and hold the patent for engines between 75cc~250cc.
                        I am not debating on what they can apply for and what they cannot, I am against the media hype they directly/indirectly create!
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                        PowerDrift:.

                        #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
                        #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                        #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
                        #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
                        #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                          I am not debating on what they can apply for and what they cannot, I am against the media hype they directly/indirectly create!
                          Errrrrrrrr... Media hype is created by the media only i guess

                          And that s how they managed to mix up DTS-i and Exhaustec. Just to create a hype. And the purpose of creating this thread was also the same.
                          Last edited by insanebiker; 04-10-2009, 01:47 PM.
                          When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                            I am not debating on what they can apply for and what they cannot, I am against the media hype they directly/indirectly create!
                            Originally posted by insanebiker View Post
                            Errrrrrrrr... Media hype is created by the media only i guess

                            And that s how they managed to mix up DTS-i and Exhaustec. Just to create a hype. And the purpose of creating this thread was also the same.

                            Welcome to the world of PR\corporate communications... Was there ever an OFFICIAL quote from media apologizing\clarifying for the 'mis-communication' to the masses...?
                            The damage was already done...

                            Anyways my last post to this thread.... I dont see a point in discussing this further...

                            EDIT: Read the media release again, shall you.... TVS Officials have come out against it.... not the the media and niether have Bajaj....
                            Last edited by satyenpoojary; 04-10-2009, 02:03 PM.
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                            .: FB :.|.: TW :.|*IG*| Ex
                            PowerDrift:.

                            #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
                            #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                            #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
                            #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
                            #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
                            � Satyen Poojary

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

                              Welcome to the world of PR\corporate communications... Was there ever an OFFICIAL quote from media apologizing\clarifying for the 'mis-communication' to the masses...?
                              The damage was already done...

                              Anyways my last post to this thread.... I dont see a point in discussing this further...


                              Guess u have to read Post #44 there. Locate the news item on that image and read it fully.

                              And last post or no post, doesnt affect me in any way

                              And why in world would the media apologize,
                              When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                                ^ Since when was calling a spade a spade termed as 'hatred'?

                                Without any doubts what so ever, I do admire Bajaj for what they did with Pulsar... and So do I admire TVS for the RTR... but whats happening now from the Bajaj house is sheer madness! I am surprised that the so called industry experts who grant patents are granting patents to existing technologies....
                                Just the note in which it was put across.The sheer hatred was "resonating". Otherwise, I totally agree with whats happening.
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