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  • #16
    Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

    Originally posted by tanishq View Post
    Mahindra was never into making bikes... They started very lately... But hero.. they are making bikes form decades so many years of experience but they still didn't manage to make a single decent 200cc bike after karizama R... U are talking abt rtrs & pulsars.. these bike are bikes who started the revolution in the premium 150 to 200cc segment..... Saying big words doesn't matter Buddy... & Hero have taken enough time.. they are far far behind tvs & bajaj now.

    Do you know what the contract between Hero and Honda was? Honda never allowed Hero to do their own RnD which means, if they tried to do their own RnD, they have to pay heavy fine to Honda.. I am not sure if you are aware of all this... Bajaj had plenty of time after the break up with Kawasaki and so did TVS.. in fact the RTR engine is a big bored engine of that of the Fiero.. Not sure if you are aware of this as well..

    Bajaj engines were never perfect.. even now they aren't perfect..

    No point talking to someone who doesn't know anything apart from bashing a manufacturer for umm.. I dont know what else to say..

    No more replies to you from my side mate..

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    • #17
      Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

      Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
      Do you know what the contract between Hero and Honda was? Honda never allowed Hero to do their own RnD which means, if they tried to do their own RnD, they have to pay heavy fine to Honda.. I am not sure if you are aware of all this... Bajaj had plenty of time after the break up with Kawasaki and so did TVS.. in fact the RTR engine is a big bored engine of that of the Fiero.. Not sure if you are aware of this as well..

      Bajaj engines were never perfect.. even now they aren't perfect..

      No point talking to someone who doesn't know anything apart from bashing a manufacturer for umm.. I dont know what else to say..

      No more replies to you from my side mate..

      P.S. Please don't use SMS languages in this forum.. use of SMS linguals is against the forum rules and regulations FYI..
      M not bashing any manufacturer.. but the truth is hero is no where near to bajaj & tvs now..
      its doesn't matter that honda didn't gave any chance to r&d.. but atleast they should have learned something form them.
      I seriously don't think hero was only standing behind the production lineup & keep there eyse closed​.. things don't work like this mate, they should have learned something atleast. I do admit that bajaj engines are not perfect but they atleast tried & see how successful they are now, hero also should have done something like this. Anyways m ending this topic here. Sorry if i offended u in anyway​.

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      • #18
        Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

        Originally posted by tanishq View Post
        M not bashing any manufacturer.. but the truth is hero is no where near to bajaj & tvs now..
        its doesn't matter that honda didn't gave any chance to r&d.. but atleast they should have learned something form them.
        I seriously don't think hero was only standing behind the production lineup & keep there eyse closed​.. things don't work like this mate, they should have learned something atleast. I do admit that bajaj engines are not perfect but they atleast tried & see how successful they are now, hero also should have done something like this. Anyways m ending this topic here. Sorry if i offended u in anyway​.
        I am not offended at all.

        Again. Refrain from using SMS languages..

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        • #19
          Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

          Originally posted by tanishq View Post
          Mahindra was never into making bikes... They started very lately... But hero.. they are making bikes form decades so many years of experience but they still didn't manage to make a single decent 200cc bike after karizama R... U are talking abt rtr & pulsars.. these are the bikes who started the revolution in the premium 150 to 200cc segment like (pulsar 220 & rtr180) For ur info Rtr200.. is one of the best 200cc bike out there... & Hero have taken enough time.. they are far far behind tvs & bajaj now.
          I think that so called revolution was started by cbz and karizma.
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          • #20
            Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

            Nice dog fight going on, only matter of time until the Bajaj bhakts starts ragging the rtr owners on how poor their racing throttle response bikes fare vs the pulsar series.

            Then some Jap guys jump in and start thwocking people over the head with the quality and technology sticks, and desi bike lovers land some combination punches on the 'vfm' tag.

            The superbike owners lay back smirking at the plebes tearing into one another, until the mods step in and blow the whistle.


            I for one, hope that Siddhartha Lal doesn't get his paws on Ducati. As it is, Ducati has a history of reliability issues, and if their parts start falling off, they might as well shut the company down.
            Last edited by leech; 04-28-2017, 01:55 PM.

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            • #21
              Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

              If hero buys Indian manufacturers will have stake in two large European manufacturers company KTM&DUCATI. Why shouldn't Tata buy ducati.Chinese manufacturers just like Benilli & Volvo.Their standard hasn't gone down. Before the multistrada Ducati was in the verge.They can always make a comeback.
              Last edited by snoufaltariq; 04-29-2017, 12:25 PM.

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              • #22
                Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

                Guys If Hero Moto corp buys Ducati than it will be beneficial for both the companies. Ducati will get fresh funds for new R&D whereas Hero will get technical support to built new Engines and platform to develop higher Capacity Motorcycles similar to BMW G 310R and may be they can launch similar Capacity bikes under different Brand names like KTM 390 VS Dominar.And in the end we Indians can get affordable superbikes because Ducati bikes will be either assembled or Made in India.Its good if Hero gets Ducati

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                • #23
                  Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

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                  • #24
                    Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

                    Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post
                    Why would Volkswagen sell Ducati if Hero is going to buy.
                    "A Reuter report suggests that VW is in talks with Hero MotoCorp and some Chinese brands to sell their Ducati brand."

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                    • #25
                      Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

                      Originally posted by tanishq View Post
                      The company which is playing soo much safe by porducing only commuter bikes.. didn't produce a single 200cc bike from past 4 or 5yrs... U expect them to run a company like ducati....lol!!.... Hero is soo doomed now in our country & ...u are saying as parent company they can handle the international market.....imo they cannot.
                      And what ground breaking performance machine did Volkswagen manufacture during their time of ownership of Ducati? If your argument is that the parent companies product line must match its subsidiaries product line, then you are far from reality. Volkswagen has a large number of brands catering to varied segments from - entry level cars to super bikes to hyper cars.

                      The same would apply to any conglomerate. Bajaj only recently entered the 200+ CC sector but through KTM and Kawasaki they catered to other segments. Hero could do the same.

                      As for lack of imagination, intent and the likes that I've read in this post, I disagree. Hero has recently opened a state of the art R&D facility which is comparable to the likes of any manufacturer globally. Their motorsport team is at the heart of the Dakar rally and recently won the Indian Baja. There is no dearth of R&D - but a strong product and segment specification they stick to currently. They are in the commuter segment to make money, but that in no way should restrict them from owning another brand catering to a whole different segment.

                      Ducati under Hero would still operate entirely on its own - the same way it has under Volkswagen. The Ducati family is still deeply involved in operations of the company and will not give up control.

                      Also, personally as a Ducati owner I would definitely be happier to see it come to Hero than to a Chinese company 🤓
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                      • #26
                        Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati



                        "The employee representatives on Volkswagen's supervisory board will neither approve a sale of Ducati, nor one of Renk or MAN Diesel & Turbo," a spokesman for VW group's works council told Reuters late on Saturday.
                        "Everyone who can read the VW half-year results should know: We don't need money and our subsidiaries are not up for grabs by bargain hunters."
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                        • #27
                          Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

                          Hey,


                          As per the news comes on 2nd of August 2017 it's not clear that "Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati"


                          Volkswagen's planned sale of motorcycle brand Ducati and transmissions maker Renk has currently no majority backing on the carmaker's supervisory board, with opponents to asset sales feeling invigorated by the group's strong results.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

                            Hmm, sad to see that premium bike manufacturers can't stay running profitable for long and go seeking new owners. Those planning to buy Ducati's should do so quickly before it ends up with "made in china" tag.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

                              I wonder if whoever the new owner is will be able to continue running Ducatis in MotoGP and WSBK?

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                              • #30
                                Re: Volkswagen plans to sell Ducati

                                Originally posted by sparky View Post
                                Hmm, sad to see that premium bike manufacturers can't stay running profitable for long and go seeking new owners. Those planning to buy Ducati's should do so quickly before it ends up with "made in china" tag.
                                Originally posted by akshay View Post
                                I wonder if whoever the new owner is will be able to continue running Ducatis in MotoGP and WSBK?

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                                Right now there is no guarantee that Ducati will even be sold by Volkswagen. Much less be bought by a Chinese company!

                                Read the Reuters link above.
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