With all due respect , think again on this .
They are business men . And I feel there is no need to add the word " indian " here.

Consider an eg :
You own a company selling some consumer product .
Now if the pricing of some X product is Rs 100 and earn considerable amount of profit from it. If you know that the customer will pay Rs 150 also , would you keep the price at Rs 100 and part away from the neat Rs 50 profit saying no no I am earning already enough profit and will not fool the customer because my brand my company has good reputation and wont fool my countrymen . And the product sells lakhs per annum . Take one lakh for eg . You will have to part with 50 lakhs per annum .
How could Honda part with Crores ? .

And which company in any part of the world does not charge a premium for its brand reputation ? . As far as I know , none . So why blame Honda here. The world likes Tom Cruise so he charges more than most actors out there . Sometimes his fee for a movie amounts more than the entire budget of an Indian film .

Honda made a product and they priced it . It was our opinion , mind , logic etc to decide whether it is worth it or not .

If you are not convinced and still call it fooling , once try and check out what our own people do .
It is our people who support these foreign investors . Mostly all companies take undue advantage of us . But who allows them to do so .
And dont the Indian companies " fool " us ? .

^^ speaking about the activa, there was no other scoot well built, good in looks, maintainance and VFM tat time.

ppl were completely bored of kine
tat was the top most reason for the MEGA-HIT of activa

In short, customers are getting fooled and not the vice versa...

I have thought many times, and it has been the same. Elsewhere in world, prices of Honda products are competitive and when it comes to India they overcharge. Honda Jazz and Stunner FI speaks for that. I think I should refrain from explaining about them.

The logic that you said is very poor, at least for me. Period.

I agree Aviator is one of the best scooters in Inida with all the features which are really good and needed. A price of around 55k for a 110 cc scooter is way too high when other competitors are offering 125-cc for just 45-47k.

If you did not get it first time , you will never ever get it .
So even I think I should refrain for commenting further .

Then why dont your correct me or point out what was incorrect or try explaining me if you can take out some of your " valuable " time and pour out some words outta your highly " rich " fountain of wisdom and logic .

Mr. Maniac, I see you are reacting as though I called you a 'fool'. Think twice before posting.

There is a limit for charging premium price. When it goes out of control, people feel it.

OT :

I simply did not like the tone of some of your sentences .
I can very well reply but dont want to because I ve always had respect for you and for that sake I drop this matter with this post . You can continue if you want .

From next time if you feel offended in anyway by any post of mine, message me . I will happily delete it . No need to reply just for the sake of it or reply with unhealthy statements .

Meaning of Premium : a charge paid in addition to normal payments.

Premium is used for a reason . It can be anything , a 100 , 1000 or a million. There is nothing called premium going out of control and neither is there a limit .
And that limit you are talking about is in itself handicapped here .
It differs from person to person , a middle class man might feel that premium charged should be 1000 only etc. Rich guys or guys feeling its priced right will not even think on it and buy and even if they do think , they might feel it could some 5000 more . Then there might be some people who might think there should be no premium at all .

Anyways as I said would not argue anymore with you .
Respect your opinion also .

The question is: Will it sell.Hell yeah, it will sell.When a company can charge 'premium' across the 97cc line up(based on 25 year old technology) then why can't this.When you have so many ignorant customers they why the indifference!!

Like devilpulsarian said, the customers are getting fooled and not vice versa.

OT:Honda charges premium for its cars and they also cunningly have set 5k service intervals for all their cars as against 10k for the competition.In the longer run, the extra fuel efficiency which people have in the perception is more or less offset!! (and not to mention higher spare costs!!)

@outworldy maniac and ravi

Cool it off, guys.

Samarath you are missing my point, Activa was recently upgraded so no upgrade was expected there, The Aviator upgrade is on expected lines. I am only complaining about the timing, there is a huge waiting right now for all Honda scooters & its not the regular one but due the current Labor issues becasue if which the waiting is gone to 6 months without any confirmation.

Relax guys, you are both right.

Honda just like any other company has full authority to price its products the they want, its we the customer who decides whether its worth the premium or not & from the sales it seems that indeed is.

Honda is also fooling us because even after so many years of India operations & knowing that they have a successful model at hand they still haven't upgraded their production capacity to ensure ready availability for its scooters. This IMHO is done to create an additional hype about the demand of its products.

So yes almost every successful company tries to do that but only a few succeed, Honda is learning its lesson from Stunner PGMFi & Jazz.

If you have any respect for me, you will not speak like this (see below) as a knee jerk reaction. Whatever I spoke is my opinion about the product and the Honda and never directed at you.

Regarding the tone of my text, it was never intended at you. Why do you bother so much. I said I will not agree with your logic of justifying Honda pricing products way high, and it is my opinion.

I am not in any argument here. It would be better if you understand the things properly. I rest my case.

its now like the time choosing between pleasure and dio/activa..pleasure didnt sell much..(or i may be wrong)but a wing will get higher weightage than a HH symbol.suzuki is surely catching up.

people in india now are you can say LOYAL to the wing.so if they tomo come with 111cc with an exterior fuel filler and some etc goodies(like air filter booster or something) there are people who will still go and buy since they are LOYAL to the H.and this and new aviator will still sell since people will not like to purchase a 2003 product styling now.so H made some nice two three holes here there..and charged hefty for their brand value.we know it and H know it..they enjoy this position in the market since for the average mama,papa,sis,bro..where this is mainly targeted..H wing symbol=premium and the best quality.same goes for HH.so you can say that HH posts profits most of the times..cause people of our country have become LOYAL to them.end of story.

anvancy.

^^ Yeah! It would surely sell. Given a choice, I would choose Aviator of all the scooters, but when I buy I feel it is overpriced, but I still buy because there is no proper competition. Every customer feels the same but feel helpless.

I have used Aviator for a month and I know how good it is with the disc brake and telescopic suspension. It handles sweet.

Suzuki Access 125...


@ Topic

Its a customers will/choice and understanding (or the lack of it) that he still chooses a particular brand even after knowing or not knowing a product doesnt deserve that huge a tag. Anyways, its a competitive world. Anything thats not competitive will perish. Even higher price tags are competitive. It took Honda a lot to build a brand what it is today and that includes money apart from other factors.

Its upto a customer whether he wants to pay for the Brand (along with the products actual value) or only the product.

Pleasure sells less as it is targeted as girls 'thing', that's Honda's strategy, they branded Activa as family scooter, Dio as motoscooter and pleasure a girls' scooter with same engine !! Remember TVS scooty was targeted at college going boys n gals, but after Pleasure was born, TVS is forced to sell their scooty as girl product only. HH sells about 15-20K per month and it took the pie from both Activa ad Scooty !

You said it Technocrat. Its "capitalism". And socialism should not be interfering here.
And guys never think that capitalism can crush poors or take advantage of ignorants.

I love Aviator and Activa is just an average vehicle for me but I am not willing to pay the premium Honda charges for it. I would rather go for Suzuki Access 125 over Aviator, forget Activa, and it would not be a compromise, but it would be about getting the the best deal.