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**moeed** · 10-29-2009, 11:06 PM

I agree that Honda has upgraded the model. But I didn't like Honda charging a premium(that too 5k) for this. It would be better to go for the Access.

**Puneet1** · 10-29-2009, 11:16 PM

how does this Combi-brake work ? what if we are leaning and press rear brake ,will the front brake also get activated ?

**ravi@17bhp** · 10-29-2009, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by Puneet1 View Post

how does this Combi-brake work ? what if we are leaning and press rear brake ,will the front brake also get activated ?

Yes, it will be applied.

Originally posted by moeed View Post

I agree that Honda has upgraded the model. But I didn't like Honda charging a premium(that too 5k) for this. It would be better to go for the Access.

Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post

Suzuki Access 125...

Access excels in performance front when compared to Aviator. In all other aspects, Aviator scores better. Access has stiff front suspension and the ride is a bit bumpy where as Aviator provides plush ride with bigger wheel at front and softer telescopic suspension at front. Disc brake is a boon for better stopping in Aviator. Underseat storate is more in Aviator than Access. With non-maintenance battery, viscous air filter, combi-brake system which aides in safer braking, and the new fuel efficient 110 cc engine, it appeals better than Access.

**Devilpulsarian** · 10-30-2009, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

Access excels in performance front when compared to Aviator. In all other aspects, Aviator scores better. Access has stiff front suspension and the ride is a bit bumpy where as Aviator provides plush ride with bigger wheel at front and softer telescopic suspension at front. Disc brake is a boon for better stopping in Aviator. Underseat storate is more in Aviator than Access. With non-maintenance battery, viscous air filter, combi-brake system which aides in safer braking, and the new fuel efficient 110 cc engine, it appeals better than Access.

I feel its exactly the other way round. Aviator has one of the bumpiest rides I ever had (Activa is better). Access has more load pulling power and hence easier to drive.The torque is distributed towards the lower end which makes it one of the best flickable scoots here in India.
Aviator has got that extra high seat which makes it uncomfortable for an average Indian girl who keeps on flip flopping between both legs. Telescopics are softer on Access. Discs, no doubt are a boon for Aviator but a scooter generally which doesnt cross 50 (by the type of people who drive it) Discs are not mandatory.
They had been beneficial if they had been provided as standard.
I am considering the older 102cc Aviator!

**ravi@17bhp** · 10-30-2009, 02:09 AM

^^You have got things wrong. Access has stiffer suspension and it is bumpy. I have used Access and Aviator for a month and it was very clear. Ride on Aviator is plush due to not-so-stiff suspension. The handling of Aviator is good due to the larger rim at front.

You can check magazines and get the same information. I agree with you on performance front. Aviator is not far behind and it can easily pull and the engine is in a different state of tune than old activa's engine. With the current 110cc engine producing 8 bhp it works better.

Regarding the hight of Aviator, the scooter is aimed at office-going executives and not for female riders. Of course, I have seen plenty of females riding Aviator on Hyderabad roads.

Regarding disc brakes, disc brakes always help in better braking than drum brakes. You try Aviator with disc brakes, you will change your opinon.

**outworldly maniac** · 10-30-2009, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

If you have any respect for me, you will not speak like this (see below) as a knee jerk reaction. Whatever I spoke is my opinion about the product and the Honda and never directed at you.

Regarding the tone of my text, it was never intended at you. Why do you bother so much. I said I will not agree with your logic of justifying Honda pricing products way high, and it is my opinion.

I am not in any argument here. It would be better if you understand the things properly. I rest my case.

anna u only said " You logic is v poor . PERIOD. " , rather than

" I will not agree with your logic of justifying Honda pricing products way high, and it is my opinion. "

"Mr. Maniac, I see you are reacting as though I called you a 'fool'. Think twice before posting."

which you could have used much better words .

Anyways if u say it was not meant i ll forget it .

**Satellite.kid** · 10-30-2009, 08:11 AM

A friend of mine recently bought a Honda Aviator for his father. Both my friend and his father test rode the Aviator and Access, and they found Aviator to be an overall better gearless scoot even though Access scores slightly better on performance. My friend acknowledged the fact that Access has a noticeably better pick up (due to bigger engine), but at the same time he said it's not as neutral handling and comfortable as the Aviator which is more important for them. And I can confirm that, I rode it and I found it to be as easy as...anything!! The point for me to note is, my friend is atleast 20kgs heavier than me and he rode pillion with me. I was extremely surprised that I hardly felt any difference in Aviator's handling characteristics and it remained almost as neutral just like when riding solo, something which many "modern" Indian bikes can't match!!

So, I can say that Aviator, even being more pricey to some, is the best gearless scoot in India right now. That's my experience

**Devilpulsarian** · 10-30-2009, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

^^You have got things wrong. Access has stiffer suspension and it is bumpy. I have used Access and Aviator for a month and it was very clear. Ride on Aviator is plush due to not-so-stiff suspension. The handling of Aviator is good due to the larger rim at front.

You can check magazines and get the same information. I agree with you on performance front. Aviator is not far behind and it can easily pull and the engine is in a different state of tune than old activa's engine. With the current 110cc engine producing 8 bhp it works better.

Regarding the hight of Aviator, the scooter is aimed at office-going executives and not for female riders. Of course, I have seen plenty of females riding Aviator on Hyderabad roads.

Regarding disc brakes, disc brakes always help in better braking than drum brakes. You try Aviator with disc brakes, you will change your opinon.

Personal opinions and experiences. Lets move on....!

**anvancy** · 10-31-2009, 02:24 PM

but then considering the additions of 8cc,combi brakes and other goodies and then combined with the HONDA name,5k seems to be somewhat appropriate then..may be brand eating more but you are getting something great as they think.

anvancy

**ketan_r15** · 11-26-2009, 01:01 PM

"Honda launched a new model of its gearless scooter Aviator in India. The new model comes with a new punch line as well – “Live Your Style.” Honda Motorcycle and Scooter India Limited is a wholly owned subsidiary of Honda Motors, Japan. The company has been constantly updating its model Aviator to lure and retain customers in a segment where it already occupies 70 percent share of the market segment. Aviator had been launched for mature Indian males and comes with a host of new features that make the style and design of the model quite upbeat.

HMSI National Sales Head Y S Guleria said that the introduction of the New Aviator is a step ahead in the company's commitment to expand the scooter market in India. The scooter will be available in five colours - Neo Orange Metallic (new), Pearl Heron Blue (new), Rebel Red Metallic, Pearl Black and Monsoon Gray Metallic. The Aviator Standard is priced at Rs 43,713 and Aviator Deluxe at Rs 48,713 ex-show room rate.

Honda is planning to invest Rs. 360 crores in India to step up its production capacity. It plans to product 15 lakh models in the next year as compared to current capacity of 12.5 lakh models annually."

**ravi@17bhp** · 11-26-2009, 01:08 PM

Read the review of the Aviator 110 cc in BI November issue. The bike is now 2 sec faster to 60 than the older version. The engine is more responsive and torquey than older version. Surprisingly the fuel efficiency has gone up 13% (overall mileage of around 52.5). Power and FE both are up significantly; Thumbs Up to Honda.

The disc brake now is a Nissin Unit with three piston calipers, with combi brake system.

**moeed** · 11-27-2009, 04:39 AM

^^ Hmm.. Honda has done some serious upgrades to the Aviator. Would give a good competition to the Access.

**srini** · 11-27-2009, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post

Aviator has got that extra high seat which makes it uncomfortable for an average Indian girl who keeps on flip flopping between both legs.

aviator is primarily targeted at males so this point doesn't hold,even if girls ride it...as for honda charging 5k premium over the older one,they know that their product sells coz of the brand name itself...btw,in the midst of aviator-access tug of war,I felt the rodeo to be good...It seriously is....though it felt a lil small for my large body frame.Now we have to see how the TVS wego performs...

**ravi@17bhp** · 11-27-2009, 07:44 AM

Scooter segment is getting serioulsy interested with the launches of 110cc Aviator, the new Wego, and the rebadged Mahinda Rodeo. There is a lot to like in all these scooters.

Rodeo is very good package, but the low ground clearance annoys you when you drive on speedbrakers. With two on board, it definitely scrapes even the smaller regular speedbrakers. The other thing is, though the engine is 125cc, it is too slower to 0-60 compared to the competition. Add to this, it is not very fuel efficient. It gives just 40 in city compared to the 110 cc engine of Aviator and Activa, which is more powerful (0-60 two sec faster than Rodeo) and yet fuel efficient with 50 kmpl in city.

Barring above, the scooter is a joy to ride in city. Lovely handling.

**chicane1879** · 11-27-2009, 09:08 AM

I wouldnt be surprised if the new Wego beats the current benchmark(Aviator) both in terms of performance/efficiency!!

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