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**Andante** · 11-24-2009, 11:57 AM

Guys, there's no reason to be so upset. In any community you will find that these things happen at times. Accept it and find a good way to deal with it. Tightening entry to the community won't help as people can still claim membership even if not registered.

Dealing with it requires a number of things as far as I can see. That is some sort of public statement on the website entry might be an idea. Perhaps contacting said newspaper and straightening them out, on the fact that XBhp actively discourages this, could be another idea. (This would have to be done by a Senior mod, no loose cannons.)

And of course a strict policy of getting banned for being caught stunting during a G2G for example.

It's all about building an image/reputation and hopefully members identify with that image/reputation. There will always be some that don't, so it's best to make sure that when you find people claiming to be XBhpians and soiling the reputation, that they get automatically discarded as fakes. Not easy, since the general population loves to think of bikers and biker communities as troublemakers, but in my opinion the only right thing to do.

**Akash_Mohan** · 11-24-2009, 12:26 PM

Is this funny or not?

I access xBhp daily, i do no post anything regularly, i read and enjoy these posts and then I come across this thread where someone who knows that there is a 'website for bikers' or a 'community' like xBhp and they become 'life time members' of this forum.

Ridiculous!

Some one earlier said, lets ban them from the community. Sunny confirmed that they are not even members, so what is next? then a smart alec came out with a members only forum by invitation. I believe the fact is that with every other community, you will have defaulters, members or non members (or even invitation). We can not (not even Sunny) manage and regulate who joins and tries to pollute this forum with their words of wisdom and priceless acts of self indulgence.

The best solution out of this will be to ensure that we address that section of the media, which is ever so ready to malign the names of communities like ours without even a cross reference check about where these miscreants are from. One day if I get caught stunting (if I ever will), and I mention that I am from the ISI Pakistan? will the media report this on the front page? b@lls....

**shrinathrao** · 11-24-2009, 12:49 PM

Firstly they should be put in remand for 2 -3 weeks and get good pasting so all who do this stupid stunts without proper instructions think 10 times before attempting this stunts and secondly the xbhp group in delhi should catch hold this guys and know the reality, and lastly there 2 wheeler licenses should be cancelled permanently.

This breed of idiots can be taught like this only.

SIDHE TARAH SE NAHI TEDHI TARIKE SE

**JOSH5898** · 11-24-2009, 01:06 PM

The English Version

Bikers caught performing stunts
Our Correspondent

Gt Noida, November 23
The police has arrested two bikers who were caught performing stunts on the busy Expressway on Sunday for endangering public life.
The accused are the residents of Geeta Colony in Delhi. However, seeing the police, the other comapanions of the accused managed to flee.
On Sunday morning, the Noida Phase-II police learnt that a group of bikers was performing dangerous stunts on the Expressway. SI Rajinder Singh reached the spot with a team of policemen. They found some youths with women on the back seat performing dangerous stunts on bikes. The police surrounded them and nabbed them.
Over 10 bikers slipped away while two were caught. The arrested persons have been identified as Jaspinder Singh and Arvinder Singh. Their bikes have been seized.
The accused disclosed that on Sundays they came to the Expressway and performed stunts on bikes as the road was usually without traffic.

people like them who are so irresponsible and crazy should be banned from not only xbhp but from other biking communities too.. atleast they have not involved XBHP with their stupid acts. The cops should impose a huge fine or punishment on these guys so that other crazy idiots do not follow them and learn a lesson.

**kunjalsingh** · 11-24-2009, 01:10 PM

these guys are not at all from XBHp...i know them very well and their homes too...The guy wearing red jacket is Rinkoo bagga (nick name) (member of Legal crime club) and other guy is Panesar(nick name) close friend of Sunny matharu..

Delhi Xbhpians may remember the second guy because he generally comes with sunny matharu in his Car Wagon-R...Remember ???

**amandeepkamboj19** · 11-24-2009, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by kunjalsingh View Post

these guys are not at all from XBHp...i know them very well and their homes too...The guy wearing red jacket is Rinkoo bagga (nick name) (member of Legal crime club) and other guy is Panesar(nick name) close friend of Sunny matharu..

Delhi Xbhpians may remember the second guy because he generally comes with sunny matharu in his Car Wagon-R...Remember ???

Finally we got the info,
thanks Bhai
Now what to do with these guys, a written apology and a scanned copy on this forum as a prof.
What say XBHPIANS????

**Shivanshu** · 11-24-2009, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by amandeepkamboj19 View Post

Finally we got the info,
thanks Bhai
Now what to do with these guys, a written apology and a scanned copy on this forum as a prof.
What say XBHPIANS????

not a written apology...we should put these two in front of media and tell them to accept that they are not from xBhp or else a case can be filed for "using a name of renowned Biking community, and putting a wrong impression of the community in front of public"

well cops should cancel there Driving License and not return there bikes

**Andante** · 11-24-2009, 01:49 PM

I don't think there's a need to ban people left, right and center. Popping a wheelie isn't a huge thing. It's doing dumb stunts in the midst of traffic where you have no control over the bike. It's where you draw the line, I would think that line should be at the point where the person in question endangers himself and more importantly others.

That would mean stunting during a G2G in a controlled environment where there's no one going to get in the way would be perfectly acceptable. But stunting while riding in a group or otherwise on public roads should be punished.

The same goes for these idiots, stunting on a busy public road and claiming to be community members. If they were members, they would deserve a perm-ban twice over. However, it's already been stated that these are not members. Even if they were, it doesn't solve the damage these guys do to the reputation of the community or bikers in general.

The only way out is a graceful response with just enough force to show that as community we do not do these things and we're not idiots that endanger people.
No one benefits from a knee-jerk response, it will generally make things worse, since the media loves a good "fight". As for the media reporting it like this, they are all looking to fluff up a story so they get good readership.

**dreamchaser** · 11-24-2009, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by balajidiwakar View Post

I agree with your second point, but first one is tough practically.....moreover I have also seen that if you wear proper safety gears and ride decently and you caught from some reasons, they cops are sure to stamp as a stunter and if media happens to be arnd that place they will brand you with any club name.......

this is quite true because i was caught on my R1 while i stopped at a signal light and they were saying i was driving rash and what that i think this is Japan nd things like that...all this because i had my riding shoes,jacket ,helmet and gloves on....if i didnt have any of this but just my helmet they wouldnt have even bothered!!!....this is the kind of sick attitude that this country cops have...the more you bother about your safety the more they think you are some showoff!!!sick....

**kurtrules** · 11-24-2009, 02:31 PM

I feel no harm in xBhp going an exclusive club way!

With increase in popularity, xBhp, the Global Indian Biking Community and a household name in a biker's dictionary, such incidents are bound to happen! The mods and the founder cannot go on monitoring what any Tom, Dick and Harry does in his own personal time and being! It has also been clarified by the admin that the stunters do-not belong to the community.

Nonetheless, I do propose a tad more stringent means in member selection/approval going ahead (perhaps probation time), or add to the set of rules and regulations that a member has to be active on regular basis for a certain period of time, failing to which infractions and personal mailers intimating the person concerned of the same, can be issued. I personally liked the idea of the "xBhp Police" in the earlier version. That can also be followed here. Perhaps one individual (or more) for every city.

All this may minimize incidents such as this one.

But of course, that is solely the admin's prerogative.

My two cents.

-Kurt

**k2cool_87** · 11-24-2009, 02:53 PM

guys we are a public community and are for the common rider for his help...these restrictions if put in place will not only deter new guys from joining in ...it will unnecessarily ruin our reputation as a helpful inviting community...

Ppl fear and are critical of things they don't understand by means such as these we will infact increase the feeling all together....

Ppl should not suffer cause of idiots like these....a public msg by the seniors is a more better solution accepting no responsibility in any such incident and criticizing this act all together ...

**zayn** · 11-24-2009, 03:18 PM

The person named jasmender singh aka Rinku Bagga is a friend of Sunny Matharu and he is from LEGAL CRIME STUNTING GROUP.He and his friend were caught by SHO police,SI police asked him from which group he said xbhp...

I know all this because Rinku Bagga called me and said did you see the news paper,He is not my friend but we know each other because we have same bike mechanic unfortunately..

**rockrider** · 11-24-2009, 03:37 PM

In my opinion, only thing that should be done is to put a disclaimer (if deemed necessary) on the website. Period

Moderators are already handfull in dealing with aberrations within the forum apart form the activities like approvals. Xbhp has already been very expressive about importance of safety and the emphasis, which is only growing every day.

There are good number of oldtimers with double digit posts but are avid followers of the forum. Banning or freezing passive accounts in that case is not a nice solution. Membership on invitation makes it very difficult for XBhp to reach out to more audience. The forum has highly valuable information which has been helpful for good number of people who have bounced into forum in their google search (to decide on a bike for example). I am sure there disproportionately high number of member who have +vely benefitted by this community both interms of information and enhacing their safety standards as against those who mis represent the community. Besides you cant stop non members to take a name or stick a sticker on their bikes

Xbhp going to press can be an option. But it will only create more unwanted publicity. Especially in the kind of back ground. Media loves 'reactions'. 'Reactions' actually create a story. Not the event by itself. The issue is minor for a community of 35K (am I right??) to react to openly in press.

For all you care people major section of people havent even noticed this news. For heavens sake I did not know this untill I bounced into this thread. Hence the suggestion for a silent (but easily visible) disclaimer.

**Sunny** · 11-24-2009, 04:05 PM

While signing up on xBhp online we get this message:

"Forum Rules

Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Register' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forums index.

Although the administrators and moderators of xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community will be held responsible for the content of any message. xBhp.com is a website for sharing common views on motorcycling and discouraging unlawful stunts and bahaviour with motorbikes in India.

By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

The owners of xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

Please Note:

xBhp does not endorse any kind stunts or unlwaful behaviour on roads and always promotes road safety. Also someone who uses xBhp.com website or puts a xBhp sticker on his motorcycle does not in any way become part of the xBhp 'official' group in any way. The official group is only comprised of the xBhp administrators, moderators and any official xBhp roadtrip (which is listed under the xBhp Official Roadtrip category in the forums. We are also not responsible for any member doing any unlawful activity on road, or getting into an accident on any unofficial roadtrip which may posted on xBhp.
"

Today I appended this line to make things even more clearer to everyone:

"We are also not responsible for any member doing any unlawful activity on road, or getting into an accident on any unofficial roadtrip which may posted on xBhp"

**Shivanshu** · 11-24-2009, 04:09 PM

Yeah Sunny bhai good thing that you added that line..... now the only thing is that the registration process should go a bit strict than usual.....

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Stunters caught on Noida-Greater Noida Expressway-Alleged to be xBhpians.

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