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  • #16
    Originally posted by kurtrules View Post
    I would suggest the mods to please split these posts into a new thread. would provide more visibility to the valuable information been shared here. Thanks.
    Done.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
      Oh boy! Finally a new trellis frame for modifications


      Finally a KTM made in India..!!

      But would guys already riding 17-20 Ps bikes prefer them?


      Last edited by payeng; 05-19-2010, 08:21 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by payeng View Post
        Finally a KTM made in India..!!



        Absolutely! it can really stir up a chain of events and would wither die out, or make a new statement for Bajaj!
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        • #19
          Originally posted by payeng View Post
          But would guys already riding 17-20 Ps bikes prefer them?

          What if Motorsports catches on! It all depends on their marketing strategies!
          The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!


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          • #20
            Originally posted by ken cool View Post
            What if Motorsports catches on! It all depends on their marketing strategies!
            Hmm.. things can definitely change.

            A lot would also depend how the bike(s) turn out.. and yes the pricing


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            • #21
              +1 even if the bike kicks in 17-20PS power, the KTM dna would\should\could ensure that a lot of that torque comes low in the RPM.
              That would be a crazy tool to Super-commute!
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              PowerDrift:.

              #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
              #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
              #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
              #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
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              • #22
                Originally posted by ken cool View Post
                Done.

                For those interested in Parallel Twins and Inline Twins, please check here: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...llel-twin.html
                Thank you Ken!
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                  +1 even if the bike kicks in 17-20PS power, the KTM dna would\should\could ensure that a lot of that torque comes low in the RPM.
                  That would be a crazy tool to Super-commute!
                  but how will it make 17-20 ps, when its meant for The Car Driver/bike Learner License in Europe?
                  They have the 15 bhp limit there...
                  Like others, even I wonder how these 2 bikes will survive competition?

                  Also, I dont think a KTM can change nature's rules..
                  You cant get torque at all rpm's. Even R125 aint good at midrange as journalists say.

                  I expect these 2 machines to be 15 ps, but with a slightly acceleration baised 6 speed gearbox & low weight...
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                    but how will it make 17-20 ps, when its meant for The Car Driver/bike Learner License in Europe?
                    They have the 15 bhp limit there...
                    Like others, even I wonder how these 2 bikes will survive competition?

                    Also, I dont think a KTM can change nature's rules..
                    You cant get torque at all rpm's. Even R125 aint good at midrange as journalists say.

                    I expect these 2 machines to be 15 ps, but with a slightly acceleration baised 6 speed gearbox & low weight...
                    Now that's interesting. If they have a restriction of power output in EU then it will be even more interesting if they tinker with the engine in India or not considering the price band which it will fall in. Hope they have proper startegy in place if they want to rake in decent numbers.

                    But if they don't the bike will find takers only for the novelty value, nothing else.

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                    • #25
                      Dont know why but i have this feel that KTM will see south, it cannot do similar to what NINJA did///
                      Somebody Stop Me.....
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                        but how will it make 17-20 ps, when its meant for The Car Driver/bike Learner License in Europe?
                        They have the 15 bhp limit there...
                        Like others, even I wonder how these 2 bikes will survive competition?

                        Also, I dont think a KTM can change nature's rules..
                        You cant get torque at all rpm's. Even R125 aint good at midrange as journalists say.

                        I expect these 2 machines to be 15 ps, but with a slightly acceleration baised 6 speed gearbox & low weight...
                        I gave 17-19 Ps as an example to what Payeng quoted.
                        I never said torque at all RPMs, I meant crazy torque at a very low RPM range, which is VERY likely for a KTM!

                        Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                        Now that's interesting. If they have a restriction of power output in EU then it will be even more interesting if they tinker with the engine in India or not considering the price band which it will fall in. Hope they have proper startegy in place if they want to rake in decent numbers.

                        But if they don't the bike will find takers only for the novelty value, nothing else.
                        15 BHP on a light weight bike would be insane!
                        I doubt they would ever tinker with the machine!
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                        PowerDrift:.

                        #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
                        #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                        #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
                        #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
                        #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by viny View Post
                          Dont know why but i have this feel that KTM will see south, it cannot do similar to what NINJA did///
                          Let us not compare a KTM to a Ninja but Bajaj has always been very clever with their pricing & positioning to generate good sales figures. Let us just wait and see.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                            15 BHP on a light weight bike would be insane!
                            I doubt they would ever tinker with the machine!
                            Well it would be insane considering our own current crop of 125cc bike or for that matter 15PS bikes.

                            But will that be enough keeping the competition in mind(readrice wise).

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                              15 BHP on a light weight bike would be insane!
                              I doubt they would ever tinker with the machine!
                              Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                              Well it would be insane considering our own current crop of 125cc bike or for that matter 15PS bikes.

                              But will that be enough keeping the competition in mind(readrice wise).
                              All this reminds me of APRILIA TUONO 125

                              124.8 CC
                              12.5:1 compression
                              Dell'Orto PHBH 28 BD carb
                              29.44 PS..
                              235.89 ps per liter
                              241.31 ps per tonne..
                              122kgs..
                              320mm front and 220 mm rear disc
                              40mm upside down forks
                              110/70ZR front and 150/60 ZR rear tyres.

                              Now that will scare a ninja 250 too.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                                All this reminds me of APRILIA TUONO 125

                                124.8 CC
                                12.5:1 compression
                                Dell'Orto PHBH 28 BD carb
                                29.44 PS..
                                235.89 ps per liter
                                241.31 ps per tonne..
                                122kgs..
                                320mm front and 220 mm rear disc
                                40mm upside down forks
                                110/70ZR front and 150/60 ZR rear tyres.

                                Now that will scare a ninja 250 too.
                                That's a 2 Stroke engine in its "de-restricted" form.



                                Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                                Let us not compare a KTM to a Ninja but Bajaj has always been very clever with their pricing & positioning to generate good sales figures. Let us just wait and see.
                                Point.



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