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  • #46
    Originally posted by xionite View Post
    hmmmmmm.

    i wonder what is an ultra-realistic ex-showroom price that the Ninja 250R
    can be brought down to?!?

    under 2.4 lac for an N250R?
    ex showroom 2.0 Lakhs with complete local sourcing is very much possible.

    Who knows bajaj may also shed the FI, make it carb and a further reduction in pricing- Mere speculation with less than 5% probability
    Last edited by kanishka007; 12-31-2010, 03:19 PM.

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    • #47
      I agree with most of the bikers. cost factor is an important issue. Even at 1.8/1.85 on road Honda is better bet. as for ABS I am using mechanical ABS
      costing Rs. 1300/-on my p180 for last one year. taking cost into consideration it has reasonable performance, never failed or leaked in last 1 year. installation is easy too.

      I shall certainly prefer shelling out under 2 lakh than 3 any day. we do need to take into consideration the conditions of road in Indian cities, except the express high ways. bikes are forbidden on them.

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      • #48
        the CBR250R does have one major plus point...

        ABS... which is about the only reason why i'm looking forward to riding this bike.

        hope it lives up to it's much bigger sibling.

        Originally posted by kanishka007 View Post
        ex showroom 2.0 Lakhs with complete local sourcing is very much possible.
        wow! that's cheap.

        but at that price-tag... build quality would definitely take a hit too.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by kiran3353 View Post
          I agree with most of the bikers. cost factor is an important issue. Even at 1.8/1.85 on road Honda is better bet. as for ABS I am using mechanical ABS
          costing Rs. 1300/-on my p180 for last one year. taking cost into consideration it has reasonable performance, never failed or leaked in last 1 year. installation is easy too.

          I shall certainly prefer shelling out under 2 lakh than 3 any day. we do need to take into consideration the conditions of road in Indian cities, except the express high ways. bikes are forbidden on them.
          Originally posted by xionite View Post
          the CBR250R does have one major plus point...

          ABS... which is about the only reason why i'm looking forward to riding this bike.

          hope it lives up to it's much bigger sibling.



          wow! that's cheap.

          but a that price-tag... build quality would definitely take a hit too.
          cant agree more CBR is a steal AS OF NOW with ABS and pricing.

          OT- Have you guys by the way checked out zigwheels? they say a P250 with P135 design & engineering guidelines with 1.2-1.3L price.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by kanishka007 View Post
            ex showroom 2.0 Lakhs with complete local sourcing is very much possible.

            Who knows bajaj may also shed the FI, make it carb and a further reduction in pricing- Mere speculation with less than 5% probability
            Then it wont be a Ninja anymore. It would be a sort of international Phoolsar! :P
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            • #51
              No way..Ninja is in a Different league if its own.!!
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Praful View Post
                Then it wont be a Ninja anymore. It would be a sort of international Phoolsar! :P


                Waise, if I am not wrong, there is a CARB version of Ninja in international market too. and thats why i said it. Even i dont want bajaj to put their engineering efforts in Ninja

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by kanishka007 View Post
                  Waise, if I am not wrong, there is a CARB version of Ninja in international market too. and thats why i said it. Even i dont want bajaj to put their engineering efforts in Ninja
                  The Carb'd Ninja sells in the US.
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                  • #54
                    CBR 250r is not in the same ball park as the Ninja. Even though they both are 250's, they are poles apart in character. The CBR 250R will be competition to the Pulsar 220, ZMR & the likes. Sales wise of course its going to eat into the Ninja's pie, but for an enthusiast the Ninja is king of the hill.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by rohitraghavan View Post
                      The CBR 250R will be competition to the Pulsar 220, ZMR & the likes.

                      how so? it's priced virtually double of the P22O or the ZMR.


                      for buyers looking out for "fully faired 250cc"...
                      the CBR250R is the only other option compared to the N250R.

                      very few "lay bikers" will bother with bhp & torque figures.

                      they'll just end up comparing the fact that both bikes are of the same
                      cubic capacity, fully faired & both have fat tyres.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by rohitraghavan View Post
                        CBR 250r is not in the same ball park as the Ninja. Even though they both are 250's, they are poles apart in character. The CBR 250R will be competition to the Pulsar 220, ZMR & the likes. Sales wise of course its going to eat into the Ninja's pie, but for an enthusiast the Ninja is king of the hill.
                        And how the HECK can a 220, ZMA or R15 suppose to compete against CBR250, can you please explain ???? May I be I don't have a technical background that's why I am not able to understand
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post
                          And how the HECK can a 220, ZMA or R15 suppose to compete against CBR250, can you please explain ???? May I be I don't have a technical background that's why I am not able to understand
                          I think he's talking with respect to the cc's in mind as 220, ZMR, ZMA stand in the league of 200+ cc's. Again R15 being a track tool & CBR 250R which will most probably christened as a premium tourer, I'm blank in that comparison too..!
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post
                            I think he's talking with respect to the cc's in mind as 220, ZMR, ZMA stand in the league of 200+ cc's. Again R15 being a track tool & CBR 250R which will most probably christened as a premium tourer, I'm blank in that comparison too..!
                            I really really doubt if 220 or ZMA can give hard time to CBR on track. R15 can can kind of give but again CBR has 25 BHP of power !! I don't agree that CBR 250 can be compared with 220 ZMA or R15.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Sunny View Post
                              I am sorry, didnt clarify that I was speaking in terms of sales not performance. But in the end that what drive companies, the performance though should be acceptable tp most people if they know they are saving more than a lakh.


                              arre sunny bhai, bajaj auto churi nahi pehna hai , ninja ke liye kuch na kuch zaroor karega.

                              aur iske baad 600 aa raha hai...... i heard from a bajaj official that the 600cc ninja will be 4.5 to 5 lakh ( reason is hyosung gt-650r ).

                              hope our new year brings very good biking year 2011 for us.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by rx100.7050 View Post
                                I really really doubt if 220 or ZMA can give hard time to CBR on track. R15 can can kind of give but again CBR has 25 BHP of power !! I don't agree that CBR 250 can be compared with 220 ZMA or R15.
                                Agreed mate. But with R15, someone should try-out with a CBR in parallel, as i feel R15's handling department in corners will be more faster & confidence inspiring, me being personally been in tracks with that machine i still feel that R15 will have it's own Delta Box frame advantage in the corners and again CBR will catch-up on the straight lines...! Just my opinion though!
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