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Thats a nice kahaani. All the best for the future rides and plans

Busa. Hands down. Why? Ok. Here goes.
Seats are far more comfortable . Get raised handles and voila. A propah tourer.
In India, a tourer seems more practical than an out'n'out sportster.
Better resale value.
If you're thinking from your head, its the R1, if you're thinking from your heart, then its the HAYABUSA
The R1 guzzles fuel even by SBK standards.As for R1 it isnt really free of niggles.
but if you are not 6 foot+ you wont be able to sit on a busa properly .stopping in a traffic light is scary but you will get used to the weight.

Now that's a news for me

@ronaq : First things first, owning a super bike is a life style in itself and therefore it's very important that you decide that what kind of a life style suits you. If you talk about speeds, then both the machines are capable of reaching escape velocity even before you can think, but at the same time, you must step back and think, how many times in a year, you would actually get a chance to do that.

As sayank has apty pointed out, the Hayabusa is a more comfortable motorcycle, a motorcycle you can live with (as you can easily make out from Ram's thread), it's a total love affair in the making. The R1 on the other hand is all about living on the edge of things. It's one hell of a machine to own. The cross plane crank shaft engine and now couple with the 6 stage traction control, makes it a better street motorcycle to own, but because of the direct connect it provides between the throttle and the rear wheel. I've always been a R1 fan and it holds a very special place for me.

So, as I said earlier, both are just amazing machines, and your final decision depends on what kind of life style you want to go for - the Busa (relaxed and easy to go), the R1 (radical to say the least)

ok - i some how disagree to this point of yours. have you ridden both of them back to back?

because i did - and believe you me - busa was better as it's seat height is lower than the r1. (i think to keep the centre of gravity low) and hence it would be more comfortable for someone who is not tall.

a friend who's abt 5'8 is comfortable with a busa, but with the r1 he struggles a bit.

anyway - by view towards the busa has completely changed and i might sound more pro-busa than pro-yamaha. ride both the bikes back to back to know the difference is all i can say.

if i were in your place ronaq - i would have gone with the busa. not because it's the fastest production bike. not because its "dhoom" wala bike. not because i want to show off to people that i ride a 1300cc 200bhp beast (i know quiet a few posers). and definitely not because i want to tour the country on the bike. my reason to buy the busa over r1 are simple - busa is comfortable, busa has 3 riding modes which you can choose from as you graduate to a more mature level of riding (not sure abt the r1) and i assume that the busa has lesser niggling issues than any yamaha (not very sure whether it has any - but the yamahas sure do have their share of issues - that i am sure of)

It baffles me when people compare the r1 and the gsx1300r . Its like apples and oranges. You said you looking at the litre class so your options would include the honda 1000rr , bmw s1000 , zook gsxr1000 , r1 and maybe the ducati 1198. The busa does NOT fall in this category. The only bike presently sold in India that you can pit against the busa is the bmw k1300s unless you want to get the 14r/zzr1400 on your own . Suggesting you will depend upon what exactly you picking the bike for ? Track days , street riding , sports touring , two up riding , weekend rides etc etc.

well the issue of seat height & your height is a very easy one to resolve... Busa is way lower & way more comfortable...

Kitna deti hai??? - come on man, that question should not arise if you are considering a Super/Hyperbike... speed or extra premium will work just fine on both... but keep it constant, dont mix normal, then extra, then normal etc...

heating issue - both or infact all bikes heat up, so for an extra 5mins of overheating time between the 2, this should be the least of your worries.

The issue you will face is maneuvering in traffic, thats where I'm not sure if a lighter bike with higher seat position help (R1) or a heavier bike with lower seating (Busa)

there are some,hope you have heard about them.
not ridden them back to back infact havn't ridden r1.
but felt really uncomfortable on busa at parking speed.


1000rr is overall good package.
now zx-14 r gives real hardtime to busa.

@sayank - the question here is not which is better between the zx14 or the gsx1300r. the thread starter is confused between the r1 and the fat gsxrr. But if you insist the hayabusa was and will always be the fastest production stock bike ( 1999-2000)ever produced before the gentleman's agreement came into existence.After that every bike was/is limited to 186 miles per hour ( barring the italian mv 312 ). And that includes the new 2012 14r. Getting the bike and removing the limiter does not keep the bike stock and hence the title still stays with the busa for the fastest stock non modified bike ever produced. Now if you want to take this further lets not hijack this thread and lets take it elsewhere.

I would like to stay away from such news.... and most of them are fan boy assumptions. And as Bigron and Insaneroller have pointed out, it's a matter of what you want to live with and that's exactly what ronak has to decide.

Also, would suggest, please ride the R1 first and then decide if there's any unheard news for me and also not letting the thread stray away

check this out

please just go through this website,its just helpful will give you rough idea,best thing is ride both back to back.
Motorcycle Ergonomics

i was not talking about the old busa ,kawasaki is aiming at beating current busa's top whack,which is hardly 11-15 kmph more.
14 r scores better on corners than busa.
btw y2k don't have a limiter.

i don't need to ride a bike to figure out the niggles,a frequent visit to r1 forums will clear everything.
now you are having problem in accepting the facts,as you are fan of r1 but a fan should be the biggest critique too ,right?

What bigron wrote///

you need to drag race....Get the busa....extend the swingarm or get brocks perf kit.
You need to tour the country and attach heaps of luggage without affecting the handling too much: Get the Busa.

Need to go to track/see what extreme cornering is: Get the sports/R1 ( Not saying you cant do it on Busa. Many of my close friends do already) but you see Busas less on track for a reason

But then again, why R1... Its got least power in litre class sports and heaviest in the class?

I have test ridden both..... Both are awesome machines and beyond what I could manage...Congratulations on making your mid and a nice read

It would be good if you validate your claims as we all know that R1 is considered one of the best SBKs. The TS could also have CBR 1000RR in his mind. I would love to see TS go for the 200 PS powered 2012 Kawasaki ZX 10R... but I guess it would have to be imported