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**Samarth 619** · 03-27-2009, 07:48 PM

hey OF,

I quite like the basic yet very pertinent to this discussion data you have posted here. From the entire gamut of things you have mentioned here the one thing I can vouch for since I did own a Busa and currently do own a GSX-R 1000 is that the Busa does a 50-60kmph in 6th with a fair share of aplomb and can pull away to glory in the same gear...just is mindblowing!

Ken Bro, I wanted to ask one question.

Does this mean that there are no 600 substitutes, that can drive at 50 kmph in 6th gear?

Not even these FZ6, Hornet, etc?? I thought Hornet's undergearing would help it a lot, but no? is it?

**ken cool** · 03-27-2009, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by busalover42 View Post

hey OF,

I quite like the basic yet very pertinent to this discussion data you have posted here. From the entire gamut of things you have mentioned here the one thing I can vouch for since I did own a Busa and currently do own a GSX-R 1000 is that the Busa does a 50-60kmph in 6th with a fair share of aplomb and can pull away to glory in the same gear...just is mindblowing!

First of all, who are you addressing here... OF or Ken?

And yes, the Busa pulls away from 50 on 6th. But you should not normally try it very often if you want your gearing, clutches, compression, valves to go a long distance.

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

Ken Bro, I wanted to ask one question.

Does this mean that there are no 600 substitutes, that can drive at 50 kmph in 6th gear?

Not even these FZ6, Hornet, etc?? I thought Hornet's undergearing would help it a lot, but no? is it?

I think I have partly answered your question up there. You can with 600cc ride on 6th at 50. But why would you want to do that? That is my question. What is your objective. I think you should ride in the correct gear.

**L.P.** · 03-27-2009, 11:39 PM

If I could get some more gandhis in short span of time,i might go in for a GSXR-600 oR 750..
But Before that i need to learn a lot! about SBK's and riding them!

@Ken ChaCha: You've Got a PM!

Originally posted by busalover42 View Post

hey OF,

Where is OldFox??

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

Does this mean that there are no 600 substitutes, that can drive at 50 kmph in 6th gear?

You actualy want a superbike to ride at 50

,why don't you go in for a Hero Honda Splendor??
(Now with NXG Technology and MicroChips (i dont know where they are?but yes! they are!),and a mileage of 70+)

**Haroon** · 03-28-2009, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by L.P. View Post

You actualy want a superbike to ride at 50

,why don't you go in for a Hero Honda Splendor??

I dont think thats what Samrath619 meant.
With the traffic congestion, potholes, buses & autos etc, in most city roads (including some of the outer ring roads & highways just out of the city), it may be too risky to be riding at triple digit speeds and hence the question would be 'can we ride at 50-60kmph without the bike jerking & vibrating in the 6th gear for those painful long road stretches before hitting the expressways etc'.

**mzone** · 03-28-2009, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

Does this mean that there are no 600 substitutes, that can drive at 50 kmph in 6th gear?

AFAIK a 600 can run at 50-60 in 6th, my friend has a CBR 600 RR and he rides like that when required, its just that these bikes are so powerful that you can barely rev above 5000/6000 rpm while accelerating as the bike just rockets forward after that! Most of the time its riding at low rpm in higher gears...

**busalover42** · 03-29-2009, 11:42 AM

[quote=ken cool;184589]First of all, who are you addressing here... OF or Ken?

And yes, the Busa pulls away from 50 on 6th. But you should not normally try it very often if you want your gearing, clutches, compression, valves to go a long distance.

Lol! i meant to address you Ken...somehow wrote OF

**busalover42** · 03-29-2009, 11:46 AM

[quote=L.P.;184652]If I could get some more gandhis in short span of time,i might go in for a GSXR-600 oR 750..
But Before that i need to learn a lot! about SBK's and riding them!

@Ken ChaCha: You've Got a PM!

Where is OldFox??

Pretty observation aint it dude! Good on you!

**notorious_rider** · 05-02-2009, 11:06 AM

SuperBike My Dream

Well I never put so much of brain on bike specifications.... i jst love to ride them, but this post was a eye opener for me....well i always dream to buy a sports bike(600-650cc) but don't have much info about that. So if any one can guide me abt the best bike in this class like technical specifications, price, showrooms paper work required etc etc....

Thanks
notorious_rider

**sabret00the** · 05-04-2009, 01:17 AM

I hope all this information would be of use someday.

**Binoy** · 06-11-2009, 04:23 PM

Thanks dada,

Ha ha ha that's why i liked "R6"... hooray...

**sheelpriye** · 11-19-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by ken cool View Post

I realised that with the crash of the older xBhp, some of the data has been lost. I am putting back in what I could recover from my side. Some of the inputs here may not correspond to what I think and do currently. This is an article that I had written more than two years ago.

And with a good rider, a 600 cc Supersports can actually beat a 1000 cc Superbike. Which is why, in more mature economies and countries, there are more 600CC RRs sold than 1000cc Superbikes. Another reason being, the 600cc Supersports has a smaller wheel base and is around 15 kilos lighter, making it one of the lightest usable motorbikes available on sale upwards of 500cc. The 600cc supersports weigh in the region of 160 kgs which is extremely light compared to normal street bikes of the same capacity which weigh some 20-40 kgs heavier. The smaller wheelbase combined with the light weight, make the 600cc supersports category one of the most nimble and easiest bikes to handle in traffic once we get the hang of it. No other bike in any category can even come close to the ease of maneuverability of the 600cc Supersports.

And later if you want to graduate to the 1000 cc monsters and feel the raw grunt of power, you are free to do so. But the 1000cc Superbikes are less nimble and do constrain you in certain situations compared to a 600cc.

Ride safe.

thanks for bringing it back,

one quest-- why do 1000s lap faster compared to 600s? any track, fast slow, flowing? and that too by 4secs(avg per lap)

**csgup1** · 11-19-2009, 01:37 PM

1000's dont lap faster on absolutely every track. 600's can generally carry more corner speed , but thousands thave a time and half the power so they can more than make up the time on the straight bits.

**sheelpriye** · 11-20-2009, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by csgup1 View Post

1000's dont lap faster on absolutely every track. 600's can generally carry more corner speed , but thousands thave a time and half the power so they can more than make up the time on the straight bits.

say if we are going up & down a hill(full of corners) the 600's should be faster most of the time,

going up 'coz they can hold on gears for longer(know 1000's make way more power)

and down 'coz they are more agile & nimble, right?

**csgup1** · 11-20-2009, 06:51 AM

they feel lighter and you can put the power down earlier in a corner. its something you have to experience riding both one after the other. its got nothing to do iwht holding gears. if anything you have to shift more often on a 600 coz you need to stay in the top quater of the rev range

**DeepMahal** · 11-20-2009, 10:14 PM

very informative !! will come handy for sure in future bike purchase

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