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  • #46
    Originally posted by MAN_UTD View Post
    Yup you are right, but than to find a good 400cc bike, yes it would take time and depends upon the model too. I guess DREAM BIKES in Pune is the right place to find a good conditioned 400 cc bike.
    All the best, do keep us posted on how it goes.

    Cheers
    All riders fall; some get back on, some don't, some can't...

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    • #47
      Is Hyosung Comet gt250r and gt650r are going to be launched in India ? Is it worth buying one of them if launched..

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      • #48
        Originally posted by MAN_UTD View Post
        Is Hyosung Comet gt250r and gt650r are going to be launched in India ? Is it worth buying one of them if launched..
        There are absolutely NO plans as such, till now!
        :)

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        • #49
          more official bikes coming!!!!

          heard somewhere that by this diwali there will be official 650 +cc bikes available in the showrooms.
          keep your fingers crossed..
          dreams come true..

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          • #50
            Originally posted by doktor View Post
            heard somewhere that by this diwali there will be official 650 +cc bikes available in the showrooms.
            keep your fingers crossed..
            Are you referring to bajaj or in general ? cause I have heard bajaj is going to get some KTMs ?
            May the torque be with you..
            My first F1 @ Sepang

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            • #51
              Originally posted by doktor View Post
              heard somewhere that by this diwali there will be official 650 +cc bikes available in the showrooms.
              keep your fingers crossed..
              Utter rubbish!
              The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!


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              • #52
                somethings missing
                in pursuit of the "one".

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Prakrit Takkar View Post
                  somethings missing
                  Are you looking for this page? http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/122...tml#post422906
                  The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!


                  BMW Motorrad Days 2011

                  Xbhp's Indo-French Kashmir-Ladakh Tour

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by ken cool View Post
                    thank you sir,my bad
                    in pursuit of the "one".

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                    • #55
                      I went to KRP some days back and am keen to buy a 600 cc supersports, preferably Honda, but only next year. He said come when you are ready to buy. But still want to know what will the cost be like and what about them being legal. I really think a 600 cc or something like FJR is a much practical and usable choice than the hardcore 1000cc madhouses.

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                      • #56
                        I do not know if this is the right place fr my questions. I am confused with different species of litre class bikes available. Its not that I am buying something in the near future, but still I would like to get my doubts cleared.

                        As Ken has explained in the beginning about the various classes of bikes, but I would still like to know what are bikes like Yamaha MT01, Honda CBR 1000R, Yamaha FZ1, Suzuki Bandit called?

                        Why would one buy a Yamaha MT01 when you have likes of Honda CBR 1000R, FZ1 etc?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
                          I do not know if this is the right place fr my questions. I am confused with different species of litre class bikes available. Its not that I am buying something in the near future, but still I would like to get my doubts cleared.

                          As Ken has explained in the beginning about the various classes of bikes, but I would still like to know what are bikes like Yamaha MT01, Honda CBR 1000R, Yamaha FZ1, Suzuki Bandit called?

                          Why would one buy a Yamaha MT01 when you have likes of Honda CBR 1000R, FZ1 etc?
                          Please allow me to answer
                          the bikes mentioned in bold above are of different categories
                          the honda CB1000R and FZ1 belong to the street fighters, while bandit(with fairing) is called a sports tourer. the MT01 on the other hand is a Sports Torque.
                          Not my fault, they've just made it so complex these days
                          So coming to street fighters - similar to sports bike engine (not exact but similar) they are naked monsters with slightly less power than their sports counterparts. They are essentially for city use with comfortable sitting posture with straght handle bars and less rpm limit engines.
                          Now sports tourers(Bandit) on the other hand has similar engines to streetfighters just that it also has a half fairing which adds to comfort at higher speeds while touring long distances. this also gives them slight advantage on top speed compared to nakeds.Apart from that no other difference.
                          Yamaha MT01 - being called Sports Torque this category of bikes have similar (not exact, but similar) engines to cruisers. small bore, larger stroke, which gives them enormous torque. The power they pump is enough to pull cars along. though they're not so high reving engines result in lack of top speed. for eg. the MT01 goes just beyond 200kmph (somewhere upto 210kmph) but generating so much torque it can pull massive load upto higher speeds compared to full fairing track bikes like R1 or CBR1000RR. So its like a mix of cruiser+streetfigher charateristics.FYi -
                          Max. Torque of 150.3Nm at 3750rpm
                          and mind you its air cooled cos its not made to rev too high.

                          The reason why someone would by an MT01 is if that someone needs a cruiser type relaxed but torquie engine and the sitting posture of streetfighter. I hope this is satisfactory enough.
                          Last edited by R-series; 02-25-2011, 05:57 AM.
                          Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by R-series View Post
                            Please allow me to answer
                            the bikes mentioned in bold above are of different categories
                            the honda CB1000R and FZ1 belong to the street fighters, while bandit(with fairing) is called a sports tourer. the MT01 on the other hand is a Sports Torque.
                            Not my fault, they've just made it so complex these days
                            So coming to street fighters - similar to sports bike engine (not exact but similar) they are naked monsters with slightly less power than their sports counterparts. They are essentially for city use with comfortable sitting posture with straght handle bars and less rpm limit engines.
                            Now sports tourers(Bandit) on the other hand has similar engines to streetfighters just that it also has a half fairing which adds to comfort at higher speeds while touring long distances. this also gives them slight advantage on top speed compared to nakeds.Apart from that no other difference.
                            Yamaha MT01 - being called Sports Torque this category of bikes have similar (not exact, but similar) engines to cruisers. small bore, larger stroke, which gives them enormous torque. The power they pump is enough to pull cars along. though they're not so high reving engines result in lack of top speed. for eg. the MT01 goes just beyond 200kmph (somewhere upto 210kmph) but generating so much torque it can pull massive load upto higher speeds compared to full fairing track bikes like R1 or CBR1000RR. So its like a mix of cruiser+streetfigher charateristics.FYi -
                            Max. Torque of 150.3Nm at 3750rpm
                            and mind you its air cooled cos its not made to rev too high.

                            The reason why someone would by an MT01 is if that someone needs a cruiser type relaxed but torquie engine and the sitting posture of streetfighter. I hope this is satisfactory enough.
                            Hmmm.............Thanks for enlightening me. Things have become a lot clear. If I want a bike that has good pull across all the gears. I mean good bottom end pull (for City riding), as well as good midrange and top end (for frequent touring), then which bike a CBR1000RR or CB 1000R would fit the bill? If not they then what are the other options?

                            Also, as MT01 has oodles of torque, does it mean that it has faster 0-100 and 0-200 timings than a R1 or CBR1000RR?
                            Last edited by chinmayakar; 02-25-2011, 03:02 PM.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
                              Hmmm.............Thanks for enlightening me. Things have become a lot clear. If I want a bike that has good pull across all the gears. I mean good bottom end pull (for City riding), as well as good midrange and top end (for frequent touring), then which bike a CBR1000RR or CB 1000R would fit the bill? If not they then what are the other options?

                              Also, as MT01 has oodles of torque, does it mean that it has faster 0-100 and 0-200 timings than a R1 or CBR1000RR?
                              Yep, bikes like the CB1000R or the FZ1 are are good options for city riding, however, tourers generally prefer farings(half) to protect them from powerfull wind blasts.
                              Regarding the MT01's torque-imagine bruce lee fighting a mamoth of a Human body builder. A few punches at the right spot would be enough to bring down Mr. Lee. however, Mr. Lee being so fast can place over 20-30 Punches at the right spot within that same time.
                              The MT can pull an endeavor(ford) faster through a distance or say 100m, while the R1s or CBRs will take longer time. Thus with higher torque figures the MT has a good pickup but its only upto a few RMPs which is not enough to take it to 100kmph faster than Superbikes.
                              Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                              • #60
                                Kendada,
                                one small question, which might sound noob to you. Why are the middleweight bikes called, "middleweight". As far as the weight (dry or wet) is concerned, I didnt find any big difference (a SBK probably 5 kgs more than a SS) between them. So what makes them called middleweight?

                                e.g. my beloved CBR600F, a well known middleweight from Honda, weighs almost the same (~200 kilos) as its big bro fireblade.

                                Thanks in advance.

                                Abhishek
                                Ride safe..wear helmet.
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