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  • #16
    Re: Help me buy a superbike

    Originally posted by SBK4life View Post
    Thanks for this reply. I had in fact got in touch with some owners and hence arrived at the 1st year's figure. Yes the inflation and import duties also increases. so regular spares may also be more than previous years. With each service for z800 or striple costing around 8k, and twice a year service, I rounded off the figure to 20k. AFAIK any sbk owner would mostly go with NDV insurance to ensure a safe bet on bike. As far as fuel goes, for inline 4's and a good engine life, i was keen on going with shell super (Rs 86 approx in blore and a mileage of 10 kmpl). What u said is true no denial, but for me these figures are something i cant live with as a IT guy despite being our heard earned dream to pick up a sbk. These thoughts are not to discourage anyone, its just purely what i felt I couldnt afford a annual cost of atleast around 55k (minimum). . Peace
    Do not buy if you have apprehensions. But since these threads are open to public, we dont want to spoil the party for others. isnt it.
    8k per service would include around 3k worth of synthetic engine oil 4-5Lts. And around 500-1k for filter . @250KMS per month, if you are changing oil every 6 mths you are doing so at 1500KMS. for Modern sbks,recommendation being in vicinity of 10k KMS, this 1500 km oil change is overkill. You can very well live with one annual service a year. Regarding fuel cost you are right but 10 kmpl fuel consumption , unless your engine is unhealthy, would require you to over rev your bike at standstill half the time. Modern engines on highways( where you would be taking her most of the time ) give you very good fuel efficiency figures. A decent rider going easy on throttle can expect above 20 kmpl on the bikes mentioned here.
    Basically as an owner, more than routine routine Maintenance, its the damages to vehicle that ll pinch you more. Expect around 35k per year as a more realistic annual expense.
    Last edited by entsurgeon; 03-24-2017, 12:00 PM.

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    • #17
      Re: Help me buy a superbike

      Originally posted by entsurgeon View Post
      Do not buy if you have apprehensions. But since these threads are open to public, we dont want to spoil the party for others. isnt it.
      8k per service would include around 3k worth of synthetic engine oil 4-5Lts. And around 500-1k for filter . @250KMS per month, if you are changing oil every 6 mths you are doing so at 1500KMS. for Modern sbks,recommendation being in vicinity of 10k KMS, this 1500 km oil change is overkill. You can very well live with one annual service a year. Regarding fuel cost you are right but 10 kmpl fuel consumption , unless your engine is unhealthy, would require you to over rev your bike at standstill half the time. Modern engines on highways( where you would be taking her most of the time ) give you very good fuel efficiency figures. A decent rider going easy on throttle can expect above 20 kmpl on the bikes mentioned here.
      Basically as an owner, more than routine routine Maintenance, its the damages to vehicle that ll pinch you more. Expect around 35k per year as a more realistic annual expense.
      Thanks once again for sharing these vital info. It sounded very optimistic. The reason I mentioned my query was I didnt completely think about acutal real world annual expense of these beautiful machines. again my queries and thoughts were not to discourage anyone but to understand the costs. Thanks once again for this detailed explanation. Appreciate your post.

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      • #18
        Re: Help me buy a superbike

        Hello guys is the ducati 899 panigale any good ? i read about it overheating and some other problems like starting issues when engine heats up. i'm considering buying a second hand but i'm not sure if its a right choice. anyone who owns one and can give some feedback would be great. Thanks.

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        • #19
          Re: Help me buy a superbike

          Originally posted by danish7 View Post
          Hey guys absolute noob here currently rides a R15.
          like I ride 100kms a month
          note that I'd hardly be riding max i'll end up riding may be 200km's a month
          Based on just these 3 points: whenever you want to ride an SBK, rent it out! Would be cheaper by a huge margin.
          Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
          Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

          Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
          Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
          ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
          P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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          • #20
            Re: Help me buy a superbike

            Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
            Based on just these 3 points: whenever you want to ride an SBK, rent it out! Would be cheaper by a huge margin.
            haha i agree, although i want to buy one :P could you please answer my query about the panigale ? Thanks.

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            • #21
              Re: Help me buy a superbike

              Originally posted by danish7 View Post
              haha i agree, although i want to buy one :P could you please answer my query about the panigale ? Thanks.
              899 would take a while to come to the used market. Plus all big bikes would heat like crazy in India's weather, roads and poor fuel standards. No cooling tech can keep big bikes cool.
              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

              Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
              Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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              • #22
                Re: Help me buy a superbike

                i'm in talks with a panigale owner there are bunch of em already for sale

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                • #23
                  Re: Help me buy a superbike

                  Originally posted by danish7 View Post
                  i'm in talks with a panigale owner there are bunch of em already for sale
                  That's great! What's the reason they're letting it go?
                  Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                  Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                  Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                  Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                  ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                  P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                  • #24
                    Re: Help me buy a superbike

                    they said upgrade. obvious if they have issues with the bike they won't tell me.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Help me buy a superbike

                      I belong to a middle class family, back in the day i used to ride a modified cbz haha. i'm 29 now have worked really hard to reach where i am today. i wish you all the very best
                      Last edited by Divya Sharan; 04-02-2017, 10:57 AM. Reason: Editing out the removed quoted text.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Help me buy a superbike

                        These are just pieces of steel and plastic. Some people can afford them, some cannot. For every rich noob who crashes his sbk, there are a hundred fools on a Splendor or discover, who don't follow road rules and don't care about other road users.
                        Last edited by Divya Sharan; 04-02-2017, 10:58 AM. Reason: Left out the great general piece of advice.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Help me buy a superbike

                          Hi danish7,

                          Don't you think its very giant leap from R15 to a litre class?
                          I understand you have a dream to own a super bike and got the moolah as well but in my humble opinion you have to upgrade and not take giant leaps(which could be fatal for the rider as well others). Why don't you tame a Duke 390 or 650's which are quite handful for someone coming from 150cc category and then when you outgrow these go for a litre class.
                          Old saying "Better arrive late than depart earlier".

                          Cheers!

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                          • #28
                            Re: Help me buy a superbike

                            Originally posted by acdc View Post
                            Hi danish7,

                            Don't you think its very giant leap from R15 to a litre class?
                            I understand you have a dream to own a super bike and got the moolah as well but in my humble opinion you have to upgrade and not take giant leaps(which could be fatal for the rider as well others). Why don't you tame a Duke 390 or 650's which are quite handful for someone coming from 150cc category and then when you outgrow these go for a litre class.
                            Old saying "Better arrive late than depart earlier".

                            Cheers!
                            It is indeed I totally agree. i'll definitely consider. i have dropped the idea of buying a litre class. the 899 is light weight and come with different modes maybe it will be better for me ? i'm in talks with a seller i'll keep you guys updated.
                            Last edited by Divya Sharan; 04-02-2017, 11:00 AM. Reason: All members should take part in 'healthy and productive' discussions.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Help me buy a superbike

                              danish7 - don't worry about handling a sbk's power. There is a guy on another website who posted his transition from a scooter to a Hayabusa. He had no problem handling the power, and he rides the Busa almost daily.

                              All that it takes to ride a bike is control of the right wrist. I read of a young man in Chennai whose father bought him an R15 on his 18th birthday. And what did he do? Crash it on a turn. Too much speed going in. He died of a head injury, because, you see, only fools wear helmets.

                              I am of the opinion that you buy any bike you can afford, learn it's character, then ride it with the knowledge that anything can go wrong. Even Ducatis and Triumphs have stalling problems, and component failures. Your best bet at staying alive is : acceleration, evasion, and anticipation.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Help me buy a superbike

                                Originally posted by danish7 View Post
                                Hello guys is the ducati 899 panigale any good ? i read about it overheating and some other problems like starting issues when engine heats up. i'm considering buying a second hand but i'm not sure if its a right choice. anyone who owns one and can give some feedback would be great. Thanks.
                                ducati is a love affair for a lifetime. if you plan to retain her for long, its an excellent choice.
                                it is fast. means its not easy to ride her at 30kmph in 3rd or 4th gear. ( some people claim so about a lot of inline fours. i never rode em). stock sprocket is 15T and you d do good to change that to 14T and urban driveability will improve a lot. its sound is an instant love or hate thing. if your love heavy sound of RE bulletes ricocheting from close compounds, you ll love to ride her at thumping speeds. if you are captivated by those high revving screams, she wont disappoint you there either but she redlines at 11kay-ish where as most inline fours go 13 14 15 kays.
                                working on ducs will need a knowledgeable mechanic however more ducs are now on streets and more mechannics are getting exposure to working on them. modern ducatis are very reliable. most accessories will be a tad bit expensive. ever since Thailand treaty, 899 panigale is an excellent value for money.
                                dont buy it unless you fall in love with her.) only a true lover would bear all her nakhras. stay away if you dont wish to improve upon yourself to go with that ducati image.( like staying in shape and workout your wrist. if you are out to get a comfortable ride, buy a merc. if a million people on this planet can ride her , why cant you.
                                overheating is only a matter of getting used to. ride her above 60-70kmph and things will be fine. by the way hayabusas, r1s overheat too. mostly in bumper to bumper traffic.
                                and no. i dont think this overheating resulting in failed cranking has marred bikes in india. plus this problem can be solved if you d have read same forums some more u d know. you just need to remove charcoal canister.
                                if your heart is set on a duc, anything else is a compromise.
                                regarding power jump, i agree with leech. sbks arent that risky if you dont expect them to behave like your r15. still it is a good idea to start on deserted roads and staying away from antics ( high leaning angles et al.) absolutely stay away from stunting. if you are on forum and have read about living with superbikes thread, you can take the leap. daytona is also lightweight and she heats up too. i agree with divya sharan that all big engines heat up. that includes harleys too and that in turn includes street 750s too.
                                buy a panigale bro.
                                Last edited by entsurgeon; 04-01-2017, 05:05 PM.

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