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    Hi Folks,

    Usually, I take the "on the move decisions", but to this one I needed the "Guru's" opinion - So, xBhp!

    Firstly, thanks to JD I got a new bore-kit. I was running on the last size for 3 months or so. After I got it, I got it fitted and it's "fine" I mean no improvement in the pickup but the other aspects are good (like mileage, sound, etc....)

    * It got me thinking, why not use the old bore kit (which is on last size) to increase the pick-up - Get it ported (1st stage) and see how it performs - Your suggestions are deeply appreciated

    * My RX's fork assembly has problems (mechanic says it, although the springs were changed). I can feel it too - it's time to change! - With this, I was thinking of getting a pulsar disk set up - So the question is will this any way hamper the performance (added weight might drag a bit(?)), Also will this help in handling in any way? Main reason I brought this up here is that it'll not be stock anymore, so was looking for some real good reason to get it changed..

    * How do I decrease the smoke emitted? (Its healthy you say? Wrong answer). I have seen RX's which emit smoke like "Bajaj RE Two stroke autos" and the ones which doesn't at all - I want to decrease the smoke emitted especially in the band of 40-60kms - help me please!

    * Lastly, it's associated closely to the 3rd question - how do I decrease the noise? Even with out cat-con, some RX's dont have so much noise... Something to do with the muffler? (PS: I got a new muffler fitted, so it's not tampered, yet there is considerable noise)

  • #2
    Two-stroke query approved.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      Hey first of all congrats for the new bore/piston kit you are lucky to get one and thanks to jd also for helping our yammee fellow bikers.
      If you are running the new bore kit on the bike enjoy a hassle free ride for another 10-15years with out any worries regarding your old bore as of now keep it aside may be in future you can use it with what ever mods you wanna do to it.
      Regarding the front fork suspension yes its true that RX has a a bit tough sus compared to other bikes that does not mean to change the fork,what i did to my bikes fork is just changed the inner springs to that of the KB100 and it worked good almost similar to that of the KB,and believe me i landed up in a very good front suspension.
      Regarding the smoke you will always find RX emitting smoke but it should not smoke that much like people start staring at you on the road,there is an oil pump setting cable try adjusting that surely you will find some change in the emission
      RX is known for its exhaust note you cannot change the note of the bike,forget about the catcon,if you really want a soft noise like that of the RX135 i would suggest you fix the same silencer/muffler that of the RX135 may be you might find a complete change in the note

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      • #4
        Thanks RX88,

        If you are running the new bore kit on the bike enjoy a hassle free ride for another 10-15years with out any worries regarding your old bore as of now keep it aside may be in future you can use it with what ever mods you wanna do to it.
        Yes, the future is now .....

        Regarding the front fork suspension yes its true that RX has a a bit tough sus compared to other bikes that does not mean to change the fork,what i did to my bikes fork is just changed the inner springs to that of the KB100 and it worked good almost similar to that of the KB,and believe me i landed up in a very good front suspension.
        I changed the inner spring too.... Not much of a difference, want to know to use either "Pulsar 150 disk break setup or Stock"?

        Regarding the smoke you will always find RX emitting smoke but it should not smoke that much like people start staring at you on the road,there is an oil pump setting cable try adjusting that surely you will find some change in the emission
        I use the pre-mix, not very comfortable with side oil tank.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ramkumar View Post
          * It got me thinking, why not use the old bore kit (which is on last size) to increase the pick-up - Get it ported (1st stage) and see how it performs - Your suggestions are deeply appreciated
          Yes, you can do it, if you've the money & patience. However, you'll need to do change the piston & rings when changing the cylinder everytime. Piston needn't be new, but rings, yes, you need to change it everytime. You need to the same (change piston & rings) when you change the rebored cylinder to stock one. Most importantly when you change the cylinder, your bike should undergo a run-in period of 1000 Kms before opening the throttle.

          Originally posted by ramkumar View Post
          I was thinking of getting a pulsar disk set up - So the question is will this any way hamper the performance (added weight might drag a bit(?))
          Yes & it is noticable when you're racing in track

          Originally posted by ramkumar View Post
          Also will this help in handling in any way?
          You need to get used to braking with discs

          Originally posted by ramkumar View Post
          How do I decrease the smoke emitted?
          Use 18ml of 2T oil per litre of petrol & drive in strictest sane & never even above 60 Kmph even if you're chased by a Cheetah. You'll see negligible smoke.

          Originally posted by ramkumar View Post
          how do I decrease the noise?
          You need to specially construct an exhaust with help of experts to reduce the noise.
          Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
          Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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          • #6
            glad i could help!


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            • #7
              glad i could help!
              You are being very modest mate! In the world of RX, getting a new bore kit is as good as finding a way to travel @ the speed of light in space frontier! Thanks again JD, I appreciate it a lot! No, I am not trying to make you uncomfortable
              Last edited by ramkumar; 11-15-2010, 10:48 AM. Reason: better wording

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              • #8
                Thanks aargee.....

                Originally Posted by ramkumar
                * It got me thinking, why not use the old bore kit (which is on last size) to increase the pick-up - Get it ported (1st stage) and see how it performs - Your suggestions are deeply appreciated


                Yes, you can do it, if you've the money & patience. However, you'll need to do change the piston & rings when changing the cylinder everytime. Piston needn't be new, but rings, yes, you need to change it everytime. You need to the same (change piston & rings) when you change the rebored cylinder to stock one. Most importantly when you change the cylinder, your bike should undergo a run-in period of 1000 Kms before opening the throttle.
                I wont be interchanging it a lot of times. Port it and get the last drop of performace out of the old bore-kit, put it in a glass box, seal it and have it as suvonior

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                Originally Posted by ramkumar
                I was thinking of getting a pulsar disk set up - So the question is will this any way hamper the performance (added weight might drag a bit(?))

                Yes & it is noticable when you're racing in track
                I dont see myself going to the race track, for city driving is it convinencing enough to change the 'stock look'?

                Originally Posted by ramkumar
                Also will this help in handling in any way?

                You need to get used to braking with discs
                Yep, have a pular - used to disk breaks


                Originally Posted by ramkumar
                How do I decrease the smoke emitted?

                Use 18ml of 2T oil per litre of petrol & drive in strictest sane & never even above 60 Kmph even if you're chased by a Cheetah. You'll see negligible smoke.
                More or less I use that amount of 2T usually it's 120ml of oil with 5lts of petrol... And strictly I haven't crossed 60 in my RX after getting the new bore kit... Has any one tried various different 2T oils and seen which make/brand gives lesser smoke?

                Originally Posted by ramkumar
                how do I decrease the noise?

                You need to specially construct an exhaust with help of experts to reduce the noise.
                Where do I find one in B'lore
                Last edited by ramkumar; 11-15-2010, 10:50 AM.

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                • #9
                  If planning a disc setup, go for the gladiators setup. direct fit and works great. better feedback than the pulsar's disc.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jd666 View Post
                    If planning a disc setup, go for the gladiators setup. direct fit and works great. better feedback than the pulsar's disc.
                    After your suggestion, I've bought everything that I need for it & will be soon setting it up. If you see my thread, just a few pages back, I've posted its pics. All I need to do is get 2 things; one - the suspension bottom & second one - time

                    Originally posted by ramkumar View Post
                    I wont be interchanging it a lot of times. Port it and get the last drop of performace out of the old bore-kit, put it in a glass box, seal it and have it as suvonior


                    Originally posted by ramkumar View Post
                    I dont see myself going to the race track, for city driving is it convinencing enough to change the 'stock look'?
                    I didn't understand; what performance is affected with disc brakes? I didn't understand it seriously!!!!

                    Originally posted by ramkumar View Post
                    Yep, have a pular - used to disk breaks
                    Ok

                    Originally posted by ramkumar View Post
                    More or less...gives lesser smoke?
                    5 Lts to 120 ml is regular mix. I'm asking you to reduce it further for lesser smoke for you to notice. 5 X 25ml = 125ml whereas, 5 X 18ml = 90ml. Its makes a good difference

                    PS - I'm wondering why is it that you want to see lesser smoke emission?

                    Originally posted by ramkumar View Post
                    Where do I find one in B'lore
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                    • #11
                      Decided as below:

                      * Gladiator disk setup
                      * will port the old bore-kit
                      * Try find the expert to get the sound tuned to be a bit less louder
                      * For a month will use 18ml and see if there is lesser smoke

                      To answer aargee

                      Use the old bore as long as possible, when it gives way, put it for display... By the way, I have a 8x4 plywood sheet on the wall and I am nailing/sticking all the old spares from my RX on it as display (hobby)... This old bore-kit will also be stuck to it (Just to mimic the bike as is, but with old spares)

                      I didn't understand; what performance is affected with disc brakes? I didn't understand it seriously!!!!
                      I was keen to know if it's worth while to have disk setup and compromise the 'stock look'... Also but mentioning the performance, I think I went too far (the added weight difference)

                      5 Lts to 120 ml is regular mix. I'm asking you to reduce it further for lesser smoke for you to notice. 5 X 25ml = 125ml whereas, 5 X 18ml = 90ml. Its makes a good difference
                      Thanks! Will surely try...

                      PS - I'm wondering why is it that you want to see lesser smoke emission?
                      Why not?
                      Last edited by ramkumar; 11-16-2010, 04:52 PM.

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                      • #12


                        pls update your thread regarding disc setup (cost involved, parts purchased etc) and other mods too, i am asking this b'coz i do own a rx 100 and planning to get disc setup in next month or so...........
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ramkumar View Post
                          Why not?
                          Why would you want to circulate less lubrication to cylinder unless you're broke.
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                          Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ramkumar View Post

                            * It got me thinking, why not use the old bore kit (which is on last size) to increase the pick-up - Get it ported (1st stage) and see how it performs - Your suggestions are deeply appreciated

                            Ram, w.r.t 1st point, its a good option to experiment with an old bore. You can always go for an upsize piston with associated work on the barrel & trust me if done correctly you will be surprised with the result. On my 4-Speed RX i am using a 1.5mm piston (That is too be precise, 6th over-size) & you need to check what this machine is capable of with just 4-gears. I am telling you all this, coz you too stay in B'lore. You really need to meet some real 2-strokers, mate, & check out what level of mods they have done. You are always invited to check out my bike. I for one, always believe in bringing in the best out of a machine.

                            An RX100 for a street use can be made to deliver 16BHP safely. Rest, really depends on you.

                            P.S: I havn't run any dyno tests here, but all these BHP figures are based on 20+ Yrs of exp of my Tuner.
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                            • #15
                              A 6th oversize to an RX it must have become a Rocket

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