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  • So guys I heard you think RX stock timing is impeccable

    RX timing is screwed most of the time. My RX100 is bone stock no modifications were done anywhere it rolled off in 1992 so it's not one of the 6v to 12v cases. The motor was rebuilt this February ran the damn thing in just fine, been using excellent quality 2t oil. I did a WOT run recently the damn thing did not want to cross 80kmph came back home only to be greeted my old friend piston slap lol I am dead sure the clearances were set right because I read the numbers from the workshop manual and made the machine shop guy run those numbers down for me. With this grime in the back of my head I posted my query on what I like to call one of the best automotive forums on the internets, yes the RDD. Anyways for the doubters and haters ima post a bunch of clips I just got down from my phone let the marks speak for themselves but guys put your RXs under a timing light and if there are any problems dial your timing in because screwed up timing WILL trash your motor in no time.

    RX100 timing locked in advance - YouTube

    timing locked in advance and revving - YouTube



    Props fly out to Ron, Prd, satish and rohitsuparu at RDD.
    RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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    • #3
      if the timing was correct both the lines should have lined up with little or no variation, btw how did you set the tdc, also did you check it with another cdi unit
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      • #4
        RX stock timing is 3* BTDC at idle and it should advance to max 20* BTDC at 5k rpm as you can see it isn't 3* BTDC at idle. I found the TDC using a positive piston stop I made with an old plug, there's a new stock CDI in the bike that I got from the Yamaha dealership no swiss crap.
        RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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        • #5
          looks like screwed timing......royally screwed
          Kawasaki KB100/enduro/125 substitute parts list http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/508615-post105.html

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          • #6
            Yup!! hehehe a 2 stroke should never kick back my RX kicks back like a bullet would that's the first sign of wrong advance at idle. Need to work up a good number coz if I go crazy with the retard part I'll loose the low-mid end grunt but that should give me a good top, at least that's what theory says. As of now the top end is totally crap and need to sort out the jetting part as well OH! So much to do so little time!
            RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dafc View Post
              Yup!! hehehe a 2 stroke should never kick back my RX kicks back like a bullet would that's the first sign of wrong advance at idle. Need to work up a good number coz if I go crazy with the retard part I'll loose the low-mid end grunt but that should give me a good top, at least that's what theory says. As of now the top end is totally crap and need to sort out the jetting part as well OH! So much to do so little time!
              reminds me of my kb after the build . it was kicking bock like crazy , finally had to change the cdi to fix it , got hold of an original one from a scrapyard
              Kawasaki KB100/enduro/125 substitute parts list http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/508615-post105.html

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kb100 View Post
                reminds me of my kb after the build . it was kicking bock like crazy , finally had to change the cdi to fix it , got hold of an original one from a scrapyard
                ROFL!!!! Mine kicked back too after I rebuilt it!!! Horrendous it was. Took a couple of months to find an original. Yes, also from a scrapyard. Wonder why such awesome stuff goes into a scrapyard????
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                • #9
                  So finally you got hold of a gun a did the stuff yourself! Too good! That timing should really make you worry. What are the options you have? Change the CDI and check again or just retard your present timing but you'll still be stuck at static! [but hey, with so many champions running static time on their superfast RXs and RDs you shouldnt really be bothered!] What say?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by yamdoot View Post
                    So finally you got hold of a gun a did the stuff yourself! Too good! That timing should really make you worry. What are the options you have? Change the CDI and check again or just retard your present timing but you'll still be stuck at static! [but hey, with so many champions running static time on their superfast RXs and RDs you shouldnt really be bothered!] What say?
                    That's the least of my worries man Just marked the idle and max advance on the rotor started her up 2 observations, and I can tell you everything that Ron says about stock timing is nothing but the truth, anyways without further digression they are:

                    1. The motor is stuck in max advance, heh I can retard it by drilling holes in stater

                    2. When I "try" to rev it's tits off the timing jumps around everywhere like it's the end of the world and this is not good,<<< HOW IN THE BLUE HELL DO I SOLVE THIS?!?!?!

                    damn IT!!!!! NOW I CAN'T RIDE MY RX LIKE I NORMALLY WOULD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and I don't like riding around in uncleji mode :'( video will come soon and that will be the most conclusive proof of how the stupid RX stock CDI is nothing but "puto estupido perra"
                    Last edited by dafc; 10-13-2011, 04:06 PM.
                    RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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                    • #11
                      dont loose hope man
                      Kawasaki KB100/enduro/125 substitute parts list http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/508615-post105.html

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                      • #12
                        RX lads here's a video that'll rob you off your sleep LOL

                        timing locked in full advance and jumping around at rev - YouTube

                        make sure you watch it in 720p
                        RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dafc View Post
                          RX lads here's a video that'll rob you off your sleep LOL

                          timing locked in full advance and jumping around at rev - YouTube

                          make sure you watch it in 720p
                          I am not an expert on this issue but maybe you can try fitting it with RX-135-G, Magnet & Coil Plate I am sure that would solve this

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                          • #14
                            a new , drum and coil setup costs about 4k , and there is no gaurentee that it wont be worse
                            Kawasaki KB100/enduro/125 substitute parts list http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/508615-post105.html

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 2strokey View Post
                              I am not an expert on this issue but maybe you can try fitting it with RX-135-G, Magnet & Coil Plate I am sure that would solve this
                              how would that help? The problem is with the CDI not the way it generates electricity.


                              Guys I have back off of the timing
                              RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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