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  • RD350 - Restoration - Givng it a heart transplant

    I came back after a 3 year stint abroad. 'Cupid' was grounded in the garage all this time, started only once a week to keep the engine running. When I got the bike, she was still an HT..but running on the last oversize of 1mm.

    2 years back I was able to get a pair of LT cylinders ( unsleaved) with standard size. However, I hardly got a chance to ride her during the few days I got during my vacation. So...all this time..the poor thing proudly stood in my garage, waiting to be revved again.

    After all this time, she looks a bit rusty and I will be starting her restoration soon. Yesterday, I was fortunate enough to lay hands on a used pair HT cylinders with TKR pistons..running on the 1st oversize of .25mm.

    I just couldn't wait to put the new HT cylinders on...and got my mechanic to fit them. Took her for a spin with the 2 in 1 exhaust that we had made. I've posted a video on Youtube to demonstrate the exhaust note. If you get a chance have a look. Here's the link

    RD350 - Running on a single exhaust - YouTube

    I will soon be posting a video of the bike running on the KRP type expansion chambers in a couple of days. Will also be posting the pics here of her restoration process as well.


    In the mean time have a look at my rusty Cupid.
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    Motorcycles Owned Currently -
    1. H.H CBZ (2001)
    2. Yamaha RX 135-4S (1998)

    Motorcycles Owned in the Past -
    1. Bajaj Chetak (1996)

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    Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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    • #3
      Nice work Sohaibak. Whos your mech. there? Cylinders unsleeved? Try to get original silencers as a 2x1 exhaust will not work and is not good for your newly rebored engine.
      1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
      1989 Ki-Honda 110
      1994 Suzuki Shogun
      1997 Yamaha RX135
      2008 Yamaha FZ
      Suzuki Supra Powerup
      IND-SUZUKI AX100
      Hero IMPULSE
      TVS NTORQ


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      • #4
        memories of old days.........
        engine still has got potential,but iz that a four stroke exhaust??

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        • #5
          Originally posted by yamdoot View Post
          Nice work Sohaibak. Whos your mech. there? Cylinders unsleeved? Try to get original silencers as a 2x1 exhaust will not work and is not good for your newly rebored engine.
          Hi Yamdoot. Thanks for the reply.

          My mech's name is Younus Shaikh aka BUILDER( The guy in the checks shirt in the pictures above. He was a professional bodybuilder, hence the name).

          Yes both the cylinder sets are unsleeved. The LT cylinders are on standard size pistons, and cost me a fortune. The HT cylinders are unsleeved with 1st oversize pistons. I have another set of HT cylinders that came with the bike running on the last oversize and am planning to sell them.

          Yes, Yamdoot you are bang on about the original silencers. I have a set of those and the RD flies on them.

          I am a casual rider and just idle around the city. So to get the different exhaust note, the 2 in 1 exhaust was made..and it in no way hampers the bike.
          Yesterday we put on the KRP type chambers on Cupid. I will be posting another video of the same and will be posting the link here.

          A small favour. The guy from where I used to RD stuff from Pune has shut shop and I need to know a new place to buy stuff, in and around Pune. So if you or some of the forum members can point me to the right direction that would be awesome.

          I need to buy new cables, brake liners, clutch plates, engine packing, head packing, and a set of indicator for Cupid.

          Once again, thanks for your reply.

          Cheers,
          sohaibak
          Motorcycles Owned Currently -
          1. H.H CBZ (2001)
          2. Yamaha RX 135-4S (1998)

          Motorcycles Owned in the Past -
          1. Bajaj Chetak (1996)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by insane_x97 View Post
            memories of old days.........
            engine still has got potential,but iz that a four stroke exhaust??
            You know what? That put me off completely as soon I entered with heavy heart beats as it is one of my dream-come-true-never-will-bike....
            Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.

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            • #7
              Hi insane. Well...it was hand made by my mechanic for my RD,with a proper chamber and everything.

              Keeping in mind the RD needs a proper chamber to vent out the exhaust gases correctly.
              Motorcycles Owned Currently -
              1. H.H CBZ (2001)
              2. Yamaha RX 135-4S (1998)

              Motorcycles Owned in the Past -
              1. Bajaj Chetak (1996)

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              • #8
                Nice work there bro. Being a shithead (myself) apologize but what is HT and unsleeved cyclinders
                Ride Safe
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by IronHide Shetty View Post
                  what is HT
                  High Torque (RD was available with LT, Low Torque engine also)

                  More info here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajdoot_350

                  Originally posted by IronHide Shetty View Post
                  unsleeved cyclinders
                  Sleeved & unsleeved? You still didn't get even after going through the war thread eh ?

                  Pls go through this - Cylinder (engine) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                  Cylinder Sleeving
                  Cylinder walls can become very worn or damaged from use. If the engine is not equipped with replacable sleeves there is a limit to how far the cylinder walls can be bored or wear before the block must be sleeved or replaced. In such cases where the use of a sleeve or liner can restore proper clearances to an engine. Sleeves are made out of iron alloys and are very reliable. A sleeve is installed by a machinist at a machine shop. The engine block is mounted on a precision boring machine where the cylinder is then bored to a size much larger than normal and a new cast-iron sleeve can be inserted. The sleeves can be pressed into place, or they can be held in by an interference fit. The interference fit is done by boring the cylinder (between 3 to 6 thousandths of an inch) smaller than the sleeve being installed, then heating the engine block and while hot, the cold sleeve can be inserted easily. When the engine block cools down it shrink fits around the sleeve holding it into place. Cylinder wall thickness is important to efficient thermal conductivity in the engine. When choosing sleeves, engines have specifications to how thick the cylinder walls should be to prevent overworking the coolant system. Each engine's needs are different dependant on designed work load duty cycle and energy produced. After selecting and installing the sleeve, the cylinder needs to be finish bored and honed to match the piston. Care needs to be given to the finish of the cylinder walls to prevent improper ring seating at break in.
                  Last edited by aargee; 09-28-2012, 02:52 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by IronHide Shetty View Post
                    Nice work there bro. Being a shithead (myself) apologize but what is HT and unsleeved cyclinders
                    Hi IronHide, thanks for the reply.

                    There were two variants of the RD launched in India, HT and LT ( High Torgue and Low Torgue respectively). The HT version were directly imported and produced around 32bhp. The later version of LT was toned down to suit the Indian roads. They were producing around 27bhp of power.

                    Normally, the standard block has a diameter of 63mm. After that the cylinders are bored to a max of 4 oversizes in .25mm increments, i.e 0.25mm, 0.5mm , 0.75mm and 1 mm.

                    When the cylinders are used upto the last oversize and still the bike doesn't ride well, that's when the sleeves come into picture.

                    By inserting sleeves, what happens is, we add another material to the block to restore it to the original diameter of a standard size, ie 63mm. That way we can reuse the block again.

                    Hope this answers your query. Seniors, please correct me if I'm wrong.

                    Cheers,
                    Sohaibak
                    Motorcycles Owned Currently -
                    1. H.H CBZ (2001)
                    2. Yamaha RX 135-4S (1998)

                    Motorcycles Owned in the Past -
                    1. Bajaj Chetak (1996)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sohaibak View Post
                      Hi Yamdoot. Thanks for the reply.

                      My mech's name is Younus Shaikh aka BUILDER( The guy in the checks shirt in the pictures above. He was a professional bodybuilder, hence the name).

                      Yes both the cylinder sets are unsleeved. The LT cylinders are on standard size pistons, and cost me a fortune. The HT cylinders are unsleeved with 1st oversize pistons. I have another set of HT cylinders that came with the bike running on the last oversize and am planning to sell them.

                      Yes, Yamdoot you are bang on about the original silencers. I have a set of those and the RD flies on them.

                      I am a casual rider and just idle around the city. So to get the different exhaust note, the 2 in 1 exhaust was made..and it in no way hampers the bike.
                      Yesterday we put on the KRP type chambers on Cupid. I will be posting another video of the same and will be posting the link here.

                      A small favour. The guy from where I used to RD stuff from Pune has shut shop and I need to know a new place to buy stuff, in and around Pune. So if you or some of the forum members can point me to the right direction that would be awesome.

                      I need to buy new cables, brake liners, clutch plates, engine packing, head packing, and a set of indicator for Cupid.

                      Once again, thanks for your reply.

                      Cheers,
                      sohaibak
                      If i remember the name correctly, you can try the parts at Bharat. If the last OS HT bores are unsleeved, im interested.
                      1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
                      1989 Ki-Honda 110
                      1994 Suzuki Shogun
                      1997 Yamaha RX135
                      2008 Yamaha FZ
                      Suzuki Supra Powerup
                      IND-SUZUKI AX100
                      Hero IMPULSE
                      TVS NTORQ


                      No Cams, No Valves, No Headaches.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by aargee View Post
                        High Torque (RD was available with LT, Low Torque engine also)

                        More info here - Rajdoot 350 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


                        Sleeved & unsleeved? You still didn't get even after going through the war thread eh ?

                        Pls go through this - Cylinder (engine) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                        Cylinder Sleeving
                        U know i am a shithead. Jahan panaa tussi great ho, tohfa kubul karo Thanks buddy

                        Just read the wiki pages and i guess looking at the figures i feel like this bike was way ahead of its time (indian biking), i mean Parellel twins, Torque induction system, 6 speed. Thanks buddy
                        Last edited by IronHide Shetty; 09-28-2012, 03:08 PM. Reason: More lines
                        Ride Safe
                        Vrooom Vroooom

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                        • #13
                          IIRC...
                          Originally posted by sohaibak View Post
                          The HT version were directly imported and produced around 32bhp
                          Japanese made 39Bhp & toned down (IIRC 37 or something) was available here

                          Originally posted by sohaibak View Post
                          The later version of LT was toned down to suit the Indian roads. They were producing around 27bhp of power
                          29, IIRC

                          Pls...stop cursing yourself
                          Originally posted by IronHide Shetty View Post
                          Thanks buddy
                          Anytime
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                          Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by aargee View Post
                            IIRC...

                            Japanese made 39Bhp & toned down (IIRC 37 or something) was available here
                            US Spec RD350 Pumps 39BHP @ Crank, Indian HT pumps 30.5BHP @ Crank.

                            And Indian RD was not just Toned down version of US Spec RD, the barrels were completely redesigned along with matching head. Look at the port geometry & you will know.


                            Originally posted by aargee View Post
                            29, IIRC
                            LT ---> 27BHP

                            I personally own all 3 cylinders, hence commenting on it.
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                            • #15
                              Ok, thanks
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