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    Which Two-stroker to buy?

    Hello everyone!

    I'm 20 years old and currently ride a 4-month old Hero Splendor Pro Classic, which is a gorgeous looking bike that turns heads everywhere I go but sadly lacks in performance (no sh1t). I'm thinking of buying a second bike and have always been fascinated by retro-looking bikes. I've shortlisted the following 2-strokers:

    Yamaha RXZ
    Yamaha RX135
    Suzuki Shaolin
    Suzuki Shogun

    As you all know, a major issue with buying discontinued 2-strokers is Spare parts availability. I'd like to know which of the above models' spare parts are easily available, relatively speaking. Yamaha and Suzuki both have dealers in my town, and I also travel to Bangalore frequently. I'm also ignorant of the pros and cons of each bike and would be grateful if the knowledgable members here can help me out.

    Thanks!
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    Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

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    • #3
      Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

      hello brother,

      I would suggest Yamaha rx 135 5 speed. It is maintained much better by its owners than shoguns. Also, spare parts are much easily available. Yamaha also has much reliable engines as compared to Suzuki. Yamaha engines have legendary endurance levels. Also the build quality is superior. Most importantly, you will be able to find much better conditioned yamahas than well maintained suzukis.

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      • #4
        Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

        The only two-stroker which scores in all aspects (reliability, spares availability, etc) is the RX135!!!
        It gets defeated in only one aspect (power) by a bike named SHOGUN, The Boss!
        Go for if you are a true-blue 2-stroker, otherwise, dont even think of it, mechanics have headaches with Shogun, You cant find spare parts (esp. engine related parts) even if you stand in your fingers, and reliability, it may die on you in any point!
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        • #5
          Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

          Thanks for your replies @portedyammie and @RVSB.

          So you guys are saying the RX135 is the one to go for, all things considered. How come spares for RX135 are easily available but not for its successor the RXZ?
          Last edited by Retro; 03-15-2015, 01:11 PM.

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          • #6
            Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

            I am owning a RXZ the first gen 1997, 4 gears with drum brakes. Really most of the times i never had any problems whatsoever with it and maintenance. Absolute fun to ride

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            • #7
              Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

              well said RVSB,

              Yamahas are much more reliable and long lasting than suzukis. You can race rx-100 and rx-135 in higher rpms the whole day, and they will still be ready for another race in the night. No problems whatsoever. Their endurance levels are legendary. Shoguns engine life was not that long-lasting. Their piston and crank were short-lived.


              Also, in the power department, shogun was company ported with expansion chamber concealed in a normal looking exhaust. That's the actual reason for its better power and megaphonic sound. Whereas, yamahas were absoleutly stock.
              And I don't see any problems regarding spare parts for RXZ , at least not here in delhi.

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                Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

                Originally posted by Retro View Post
                Thanks for your replies @portedyammie and @RVSB.

                So you guys are saying the RX135 is the one to go for, all things considered. How come spares for RX135 are easily available but not for its successor the RXZ?
                You can find RXZ spares, almost all things can be found except Body parts. But body parts can also be found but you will have a little difficulty in finding those.

                Yes, the Shoguns were cheaters! But I love them.
                Still RX 100 manages to beat a Shogun in 0-40 clock timings.

                RX were always reliable, my dad toured on a RX100 for 150 kms at only a small break of 15 mins.

                Yammie parts had there unique quality till pre-2000, after that time, the quality had become so-so.

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                • #9
                  Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

                  Originally posted by portedyammie View Post
                  well said RVSB,

                  Yamahas are much more reliable and long lasting than suzukis. You can race rx-100 and rx-135 in higher rpms the whole day, and they will still be ready for another race in the night. No problems whatsoever. Their endurance levels are legendary. Shoguns engine life was not that long-lasting. Their piston and crank were short-lived.


                  Also, in the power department, shogun was company ported with expansion chamber concealed in a normal looking exhaust. That's the actual reason for its better power and megaphonic sound. Whereas, yamahas were absoleutly stock.
                  And I don't see any problems regarding spare parts for RXZ , at least not here in delhi.


                  Iam also from delhi but i was not able to find body parts for one Rxz which i was getting and in the end i dropped the idea of restoring the bike, so where in delhi one can find parts for Rxz, are you talking of Naiwala, karol bagh area for the parts , if yes then 90% parts sold here are fake so can you pls pin point any location for genuine Rx series parts.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

                    You don't get genuine RX spares anymore. But, the quality of fakes are better than the genuine ones 20-25 years ago. I have an RX 100, a friend has a RX 135 tiger. I have restored both the bikes and I did not re use even one old nut from the bike as everything is available in plenty and they are priced reasonably well. You have to have a keen eye while picking up these spares as you might get shiny stuff which ends up rusting by the second. I love Yamaha and have only worked on them and rode them, if you want a daily ride which will be easy on the pocket and will give you a grunt in the city, go for the 135 4 speed. if you have 40% city and 60% highway use go for the 5 speed, this will give a slightly less millage. if you are a little ok with the millage and want something bullet proof go for the 100. If you want a style statement and exclusivity go for the RXZ(you can decide between 4 & 5 speed based on the above)

                    I would personally love to add an rxz to my stable.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

                      Originally posted by yam View Post
                      You don't get genuine RX spares anymore. But, the quality of fakes are better than the genuine ones 20-25 years ago.

                      Pramod
                      I wont agree sir, my friend bought a fake handlebar (budget issues!) for his RX 100 2 months ago and after q month it started rusting and spots of rust are visible. Same for Bajaj, I bought a fake Pulsar UG1 handlebar to fit on my Splendor and the same things happened.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

                        Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
                        I wont agree sir, my friend bought a fake handlebar (budget issues!) for his RX 100 2 months ago and after q month it started rusting and spots of rust are visible. Same for Bajaj, I bought a fake Pulsar UG1 handlebar to fit on my Splendor and the same things happened.

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                        Its quite common in online forums, that people only read and quote a selected sentence, hence I am quoting what I wrote.

                        Originally posted by yam View Post
                        You have to have a keen eye while picking up these spares as you might get shiny stuff which ends up rusting by the second.
                        This is precisely talking about the issue you discussed, my experience is also about handle bars and bend pipes. One workaround is to buy them and get them re plated. But quality of stuff is definitely better, especially when metals are considered. Metallurgy has come a long way and people now a days know a lot more about raw materials than what they key about 15 years ago. My point is simple, in the past fakes looked really fake and the original looked very high quality, Now fakes are better than NOS stuff we get from most shops. There are always exceptions though.

                        Pramod
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                        • #13
                          Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

                          Ok, thanks for the correction, I love to get corrections and advice.

                          Can you mention any fake parts maker's company name which has good quality?
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                          • #14
                            Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

                            Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
                            Ok, thanks for the correction, I love to get corrections and advice.

                            Can you mention any fake parts maker's company name which has good quality?
                            The fake parts are usually packed in Yamaha packing, else why would they called by fake? Are we not going OT? May be a bit, No?

                            Pramod
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                            • #15
                              Re: Which Two-stroker to buy?

                              Originally posted by yam View Post
                              The fake parts are usually packed in Yamaha packing, else why would they called by fake? Are we not going OT? May be a bit, No?

                              Pramod
                              I thought like the companies which manufacture side panels, tail panels, cowls, etc (eg. Zadon).
                              Ok ok, lets come to the point.
                              Yamaha RX 135 has that initial low end grunt, the 135 5S has good high end.
                              A comparison here:
                              1) RX 100 ( Firing is awesome and awesome pickup even faster than RX135 at low-end).
                              2) Shogun (The best pick up than all of them but no spare parts around though some parts are shared with its siblings).
                              3) RX 135 (This has some less pick up as compared to RX 100 but gives better mileage than RX 100 ).
                              4) Shaolin (high maintance among 4 of them and no spare parts around like engine block kit, flywheel, crank, etc though some parts are shared with its siblings).
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