Atul instead of working on stock tranny why dont you go for a shaolin 5 speed unit, it rocks on the shogun trust me. I rod one and found to be much better than the stock tranny(but i think it was a shaolin engine case with a shogun block, dont know whether the engine case used are different, bot dont think so).
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Atul instead of working on stock tranny why dont you go for a shaolin 5 speed unit, it rocks on the shogun trust me. I rod one and found to be much better than the stock tranny(but i think it was a shaolin engine case with a shogun block, dont know whether the engine case used are different, bot dont think so).
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That will not help much, since the top gear, that is the fourth on the shogun and the fifth on the shaolin, both run on 0.954 ratio. The Shaolin eases itself into the ratios with one more gear since it does not have a powerband as drastic as the shogun.
The only possible advantage is the better progress through acceleration, but the shogun has a lot of grunt and that is precisely why Suzuki has put a taller (than shaolin) 2nd gear on it. Putting a Shaolin gearbox, in my opinion will only make it more docile.
Also, I have heard that changing the gears without the case causes a neutral finding issue, but I cannot say that for sure.
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Please don't use top pro untill and unless your budegt is on downside.Originally posted by vasanth kumar View Post@ atul - i think tvs guys didnt release oversize pistons for shaolin, only std is avilable. few technicians use Toppro piston from yamaha vr 150(thailand). U shud be having experience . Can u explain in detail about using these oversizes.
See which you can get there's hardly any difference between the two.Originally posted by vasanth kumar View Postatul - which carburator upgrade is good for shogun and shaolin ?
Is it RX135 4 speed or RXZ 5 speed.
Thanks for your kind words atul, i am very much specific on picking what to do on the bike and what not to do, doing all the wrenching myself makes me tired like hell i am not used to it you see, now all the jetting issues sorted out my old man (referring to my rx) needs a separate thread will start it once i get a sigma, by the way i need those barrels which are there on your drag bike when are you gonna courier it to meOriginally posted by atul_astro View Postah the way pradeep is into his bike im sure he can handle a shogun project easily to be honest..the guy is too damn anal about each and every thing on the bike..its all a matter of interest man..At this rate he'll be there soon
nice quote man...i appreciate you hold people in such high regard
better do it else will be flicked across.
You are wrong thambi i am a pure 24carat kannadiga.Originally posted by MavericK46 View Post@Pradeep : Tamilians and Tamil galore on xBhp !
"Engine tuning is not an exact science, but with some practice and patience you'll get comfortable with your skill and be able tune for any conditions mother nature throws at you"
Still the Boss -- RX 135
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The RX 4-speed has a round venturi and the RX 5-speed has an oval carb. Both have a lot of difference when it comes to flowing. The 4-speed carb with a 5-speed barrel is the best combo.Originally posted by psycho 98 View PostSee which you can get there's hardly any difference between the two.
And the difference is as visible as day and night.sigpic
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Oh thanks for the info, so its best he decides on the availability.Originally posted by Joel View PostThe RX 4-speed has a round venturi and the RX 5-speed has an oval carb. Both have a lot of difference when it comes to flowing. The 4-speed carb with a 5-speed barrel is the best combo.
And the difference is as visible as day and night.
P.S : looking forward to meet you joel, haven't met you till date."Engine tuning is not an exact science, but with some practice and patience you'll get comfortable with your skill and be able tune for any conditions mother nature throws at you"
Still the Boss -- RX 135
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@atul
brother i see u stay in andheri mumbai...so where exactly did you get these aprts from...if you dont mind sharing that info....besides are the shaolin stickers easily available at the place u went or it was like a last stock. grrrrrr u bought the oversizes
..........anyway man its cool
go ahead and show us here what ure coming up with. Keep us updated on ure shogun project.....al do the same with my shaolin project
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjWXI8T2HUM
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07' Pulsar 200 DTS-i
99' Suzuki Shaolin
85' Royal Enfield Bullet 350 (Sold)
86' Ind-Suzuki Ax 100 (Sold)
03' HH Splendor
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Baah..Too tiring a day..Have been out for the last few days, parts hunting..Finally managed to get hold of the last set of parts I need [hopefully]

Here's a list of what I managed to get this time
A few sets of piston rings..Managed to get hold of a set for swingarm too

A spare 0.5mm SGP piston with rings


Original set of indicators [Fiem] found too
The old clutch bell was shot, The ears had deep grooves formed on them, and they had been filed to the limit..It was bad


and here's the new bell

I thought I'd couple that with a new clutch boss too..So an overall clutch replacement instead of a shitty overhaul

The old worn gears get new replacements
..The old ones looked something like this

And in came the replacements

Lucky for me I managed to get suzuki fork seals too..Hopefully way better than the local crap dished out here

Will start assembly tomorrow..Will keep you guys posted
Cheers
Atul83' RD350 HT
96' RXG
97' RXZ
91'RX100>09'RX165
2010' HH ZMR
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RXG round bore carb anydayatul - which carburator upgrade is good for shogun and shaolin ?
Is it RX135 4 speed or RXZ 5 speed.
pistons have hardly made any difference IMHO...Piston rings do matter..Good example is that I have an RXG that runs a shitty TKR piston with Yamaha Rings that takes all the abuse, crappy gas and crappy 2T oil i put into it..16,000 KMS so far and still strong at 155psi..Make sure you get your rebores right..Thats the make or break point of any build..Hope this helps@ atul - i think tvs guys didnt release oversize pistons for shaolin, only std is avilable. few technicians use Toppro piston from yamaha vr 150(thailand). U shud be having experience . Can u explain in detail about using these oversizes.
haha..thanks guru..well you're gonna be more than reviving the ringading vroom with your teezer..Im already jealousAtul - great project and thanks for reviving this awesome ringading.
Rongom is in for a shock when he rides the bike the way it was meant to be. Are you going to put some Motorhead pipes on it?
yea rongm hasnt seen this thread I assume..Last I heard he messaged me from hongkong about how excited he was to start riding the bike again
Motorpipes?
Yea mostly..It all depends if rongom wants this to be an everyday commuter [bugger is spoilt for choice with 2 RD's as it is] or a complete petrol drunkard :P I claim heavy mileage losses with my pipes \..lol
good going pradeep..i see you're getting hooked to the DIY trip too..Join the gang..Yes do start a thread for your bike..should be a lot of help for other guys taking a similiar route for modding their RX'sThanks for your kind words atul, i am very much specific on picking what to do on the bike and what not to do, doing all the wrenching myself makes me tired like hell i am not used to it you see, now all the jetting issues sorted out my old man (referring to my rx) needs a separate thread will start it once i get a sigma, by the way i need those barrels which are there on your drag bike when are you gonna courier it to me
better do it else will be flicked across.
My drag bike barrel goes with me to my grave..
I'm never giving it away ..hehe
hey man yea im based in andheri..My distributor is based in south mumbai and thats where I get all my stuff at..Top secret :P@atul
brother i see u stay in andheri mumbai...so where exactly did you get these aprts from...if you dont mind sharing that info....besides are the shaolin stickers easily available at the place u went or it was like a last stock. grrrrrr u bought the oversizes
..........anyway man its cool
go ahead and show us here what ure coming up with. Keep us updated on ure shogun project.....al do the same with my shaolin project
Best of luck with your shaolin project..I see quite a few suzuki strokers coming up to give the RX boys a run for their 2T oil now :P...Good going83' RD350 HT
96' RXG
97' RXZ
91'RX100>09'RX165
2010' HH ZMR
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Another huge tip I got from one of my gurus..The shogun and shaolin liners are not fused to the bore..i.e, they can be extracted on a press. So all the shaolin guys can buy a std piston kit and make a similar/ better liner with the help of a portmap..Should be huge help for I see a lot of junk shaolin bores lying around in the junkyard83' RD350 HT
96' RXG
97' RXZ
91'RX100>09'RX165
2010' HH ZMR
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@ ATUL - @Joel - Thanx for information
Have u replaced full transmission or only 3rd gear
These days its hard to get primary gear driven with 51 teeth
Is it necessary to change intake manifold every time means during rebore.
@ atul - regarding clutch plates ? can u specify( u got from sgp or suzuki - zeus ?)
its good to see primary gear driven.
is it hta box with intake manifold ?
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Sorry to hijack this thread again, but all these parts replacement makes me think (and worry!) - how long can the Shogun engine and transmission be expected to last (in moderate kinda use) without needing to open it and replace anything?
My Gun has done about 30,000 km in all these years. Engine/crankcase has never been opened... no engine parts have been replaced.
Can anybody make a rough estimate at least?Last edited by Raccoon; 04-11-2009, 02:00 AM.
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