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  • Yet another rx100

    Hi guys,

    If you want a real short intro into my rx story, go through my intro page.


    In short, I was left high and dry without a bike away from home in the busiest of times.
    So I decided to buy a bike.

    I'm the type of guy who calls a bike a bike. What I wanted was a crap bike I can build from scratch. only issue was it should come cheap and papers should be clear.

    I wanted to get involved in it or literally build the bike.
    Bikes I really wanted were
    1. shogun (as new as possible)
    2. Bullet (as old as possible)
    3. rx 100 (does age matter?)
    4 rx 135 5s (my bro has a 4s so i want 5 s)

    So i started hunting
    My bro was doing most of the work. going round workshops and used bike shops etc. I went 'round a couple of places near me. But no luck!

    From what I gathered, the asking rates were like this
    rx 100 ->20-23 & up depending on condition
    rx 100 86~87 -> 25 for crap condition and upwards
    rx 135 5s ->30-35 & up depending on (you know what!)
    rxz 5s ->40 & up

    bullet - 40 & up (older the higher)

    Shogun ->Absolutely no idea!

    I called up my friends and one guy told me that his friend sold an rx 100 for 11k - 11k!!
    One of my class mates had sold his 135 5s with catcon(the bigger one )for 15 k in '06

    And one of his uncles had an '85 bull and said he was asking 20 k for it. 20K! I was already dreaming of riding that bike home to kochi. Another call revealed that the bike had been given for restoration and the guy was asking 30k for the bike still in the workshop.

    Then suddenly yesterday my bro calls and tells me that he's seen a '90 rx100 that looks like crap for 16k.
    he took a ride on it says that the bike pulls like anything probably coz it's running 16" in the back.

    My bro really liked the way the bike moves . He says it pulls a real lot better than his 135 and took his mech over. Finally thay fix the deal for 14k and lol' today noon the bike's at my home.

    Even I got to see only a few snaps today.
    Here goes pics.
    My bro took the pics with his phone and mailed 'em. so pretty low res(read vga)

    Before I plan anything on the bike, let me have your valuable suggestions.
    All inputs will be highly appreciated.

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    Topic Approved.
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    • #3
      Congrats, from the pics its seems the bike is laoded with rust everywhere an anti-rust coat and paint job is badly needed to the frame, your manifold and carb is in bad shape too.
      "Engine tuning is not an exact science, but with some practice and patience you'll get comfortable with your skill and be able tune for any conditions mother nature throws at you"


      Still the Boss -- RX 135

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      • #4
        Assuming this will result in a no-holds-barred restoration:

        1. Cosmetics:
        Take it all apart, right down to the last bolt. Replace all bolts/nuts/screws that look worn or old, galvanize the rest. Replace all chrome plated bolts/nuts/screws. Powder-coat the black metal frame parts.

        I would personally choose a standard colour and graphics when repainting.

        2. Engine:
        If the engine is shot, replace the bore. While doing so, consider replacing it with the 135cc kit. If you switch, you'll need to replace the crank & the head as well, along with the chain/sprocket set (Which is probably shot anyway).

        When you take the engine apart, make sure you replace all bearings and seals.

        3. Brakes/performance:
        Replace front brakes with a Pulsar disc brake. Go back to 18" on the rear wheel.

        4. Electrical: Replace entire wiring, switch to 12V electricals.

        5. Tyres: Put new, modern rubber on the bike. Stick with 2.75x18 at the front and 3.00x18 or 90/90-18 at the rear.

        Cost: This will probably set you back:

        1: Rs. 7500
        2: Rs. 9000
        3. Rs. 6000
        4. Rs. 2000
        5. Rs. 2500
        6: Miscellaneous: Mudguards/silencer/brake shoes/battery/seat/rear shocks/+ odds and ends: Rs. 6000

        All told, this would then cost you a total of Rs. 47,000. Factoring in cost overruns, it would come to about Rs. 50,000, all told. Mods extra
        Last edited by nirvan; 04-21-2009, 07:08 PM.

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        • #5
          congrats on the 100. . .but 16K is too much. ..here in Goa that condition or better will b got for ntohing more than 14. . .crappy condtion ones like what atul put up before he made his 100 a drag one goes for 3 K here....its not like Goa doesnt know their bikes if at all people stil love the RX's and loads of bulls found here. . .we get decent second hand bulls with absolutely no work req for 30 K. . .std classic 350's in and around 90's models. . .

          but either way restoration is a fun job and if ure loaded (with cash) its all the more faster and easier...all the best ride safe
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjWXI8T2HUM
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          07' Pulsar 200 DTS-i
          99' Suzuki Shaolin
          85' Royal Enfield Bullet 350 (Sold)
          86' Ind-Suzuki Ax 100 (Sold)
          03' HH Splendor

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          • #6
            oh ya ttg a few more things. . .
            from ure pics ure carb and intake manifold seem fine ure carb jsut needs a through petrol shower i feel . . .
            revert back to 18's coz ure currently ure gearing is high and ure performance is messsed up . . .thanks to downsizing 2" by the previous owner
            start with engine work if any (that ull know only after u hear her and ride her and fine things if need to be worked on when u visit a mech those shud b revealed. . .)
            as it sits ure bike doesnt seem to be that badly corroded.
            GO FOR A STRIP DOWN AND ENGINE CHASSIS ONLY AFTER URE ENGINE WORK IS COMPLETE. . .

            again i feel the body seems fine. . . u can restore this 100 to a nicety and its got odes of potential . . . all the best witht he project
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjWXI8T2HUM
            ---------------------------
            07' Pulsar 200 DTS-i
            99' Suzuki Shaolin
            85' Royal Enfield Bullet 350 (Sold)
            86' Ind-Suzuki Ax 100 (Sold)
            03' HH Splendor

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            • #7
              Originally posted by nirvan View Post
              Assuming this will result in a no-holds-barred restoration:

              .................................................. ...
              .................................................. ...

              All told, this would then cost you a total of Rs. 47,000. Factoring in cost overruns, it would come to about Rs. 50,000, all told. Mods extra

              Mate, you make me cry! or rather weep!!!
              So that's what an rx 135 cost the yamaha factory to make
              {considering that we trade the disc setup for the chassis}


              From what I gather, this bike ain't shot!
              My bro who's been on an rx for the last 3 yrs says the bike runs like a champ & His mech (who claims to have been trained by yamaha in 80's) says the engine is in superb condition.
              Usually this guy says everything is screwed up in any bike he sees. Maybe he'll start that line now as he had earlier seen it before we bought it.
              Anyway one never know for sure unless the engine's opened up.

              What really is wrong with the bike is that it just looks like a wet dog!
              Funny thing is,the tires are pretty good, brakes are good and even the speedo's working!

              Right now, I'll get it cleaned up a bit, get a new seat, redo the forks, plonk in an 18 incher at the rear, set the tank right and do a complete electrical overhaul.
              The painting'll have to wait until the monsoon is over (it has started here)

              I'm planning to get it back to stock.
              After that I'll do some very simple mods.
              Any idea how to source a rdd cdi. IIRC torque is the guy for that rt?
              Also any suggestions on a solid disc other than the fury?

              Originally posted by Nikhil Pereira View Post
              congrats on the 100. . .but 16K is too much. ..here in Goa that condition or better will b got for ntohing more than 14. . .crappy condtion ones like what atul put up before he made his 100 a drag one goes for 3 K here....its not like Goa doesnt know their bikes if at all people stil love the RX's and loads of bulls found here. . .we get decent second hand bulls with absolutely no work req for 30 K. . .std classic 350's in and around 90's models. . .
              thx mate.
              I picked it up for 14 grand. I'll leave the enfield for my second attempt.
              apart from cosmetics, the bike ain't that bad.
              I could get cheaper ones but the problem that was I never had the time to go hunting. Also we was looking at dealers, workshops and used bike shops.If i had bought it from someone selling his own bike it would've cost 2~3 k less.


              Originally posted by Nikhil Pereira View Post
              but either way restoration is a fun job
              Absolutely. makes you feel like god.
              Originally posted by Nikhil Pereira View Post
              and if ure loaded (with cash) its all the more faster and easier...all the best ride safe
              There you got me wrong. I ain't loaded with cash. If so i would've picked up something bigger or exotic.
              But then, longer the process, the longer i can enjoy it!

              Originally posted by Nikhil Pereira View Post
              oh ya ttg a few more things. . .
              from ure pics ure carb and intake manifold seem fine ure carb jsut needs a through petrol shower i feel . . .
              revert back to 18's coz ure currently ure gearing is high and ure performance is messsed up . . .thanks to downsizing 2" by the previous owner
              start with engine work if any (that ull know only after u hear her and ride her and fine things if need to be worked on when u visit a mech those shud b revealed. . .)
              as it sits ure bike doesnt seem to be that badly corroded.
              GO FOR A STRIP DOWN AND ENGINE CHASSIS ONLY AFTER URE ENGINE WORK IS COMPLETE. . .
              As i've put it before, the bike just looks like a wet dog. or maybe a cat!

              I need to run it around for a couple of weeks before any resto.
              (I need it for the next 2 weeks. that's why i bought it in the first place!)


              Originally posted by Nikhil Pereira View Post
              again i feel the body seems fine. . . u can restore this 100 to a nicety and its got odes
              -> did you mean that? or maybe you meant odle?

              Cheers
              Last edited by ttg; 04-22-2009, 10:21 AM. Reason: missed a few words!

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              • #8
                oops i meant it got oodles of potential . . .either way i like ure theory of lesser the cash longer the rebuild experience. . .whenever i build a bike in he future and am strapped for cash (which is alwaz am) al think of these words. . .
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjWXI8T2HUM
                ---------------------------
                07' Pulsar 200 DTS-i
                99' Suzuki Shaolin
                85' Royal Enfield Bullet 350 (Sold)
                86' Ind-Suzuki Ax 100 (Sold)
                03' HH Splendor

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                • #9
                  No point using a solid disc. Lots of brake fade.

                  Yes I distribute RDD CDIs for RXs.
                  AMD Me
                  http://torqu3e.blogspot.com/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ttg View Post
                    From what I gather, this bike ain't shot!
                    My bro who's been on an rx for the last 3 yrs says the bike runs like a champ & His mech (who claims to have been trained by yamaha in 80's) says the engine is in superb condition.
                    Usually this guy says everything is screwed up in any bike he sees. Maybe he'll start that line now as he had earlier seen it before we bought it.
                    Anyway one never know for sure unless the engine's opened up.
                    If your engine runs well, that is great. However, I'd strongly recommend you take the head/bore off and check clearances. This will give you a chance to check ring clearance, decarb the ports and check the crank for play. Who knows, you may get away with a mere replacement of the rings - and this simple act will prolong engine life.


                    Originally posted by ttg View Post
                    Right now, I'll get it cleaned up a bit, get a new seat, redo the forks, plonk in an 18 incher at the rear, set the tank right and do a complete electrical overhaul.
                    The painting'll have to wait until the monsoon is over (it has started here)
                    Sounds like a good plan. The monsoon has begun already in KL? Wow, you guys are lucky, we've got another ~45 days of raw heat ahead of us in Hyderabad.

                    Originally posted by ttg View Post
                    Also any suggestions on a solid disc other than the fury?
                    Like torqu3e pointed out, a solid disc seems pointless. Buying the Pulsar bits from a regular Bajaj spares store in the market will give you access to OEM pricing that skirts the manufacturer add-ons. (Expect to save about 30% over a Bajaj dealer's price). You'll save even more if you source some parts from a salvage dealer.

                    You need:
                    1. A Pulsar v1 hub, spokes & bearings
                    2. Pulsar fork legs, oil seals and dust covers + oil. (if your fork pipes are in good shape, they are a direct fit and need not be changed).
                    3. Disc (I recommend you buy this new).
                    4. Hose, calipers and reservoir set.
                    5. Pulsar speedo cable
                    6. Pulsar wheel accoutrements (dunno what they are called, used to ensure a snug fit between axle and fork legs).

                    I *highly* recommend you perform this upgrade. I've surprised myself several times with the huge change this has made to my RX.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by torqu3e View Post
                      No point using a solid disc. Lots of brake fade.

                      Yes I distribute RDD CDIs for RXs.
                      Thought I'd get to you next time I'm bangy.
                      I def want the CDI
                      but there are things and knowhow i want from you.!

                      BTW. Never knew that solid disc caused too much fade. Honestly don't remember seeing one on a 2 wheeler.

                      I've read(courtesy wikipedia) that crossdrilled rotors cause more pad fade while solid disc has problems with water, dirt, gas etc etc.

                      Maybe i'll should look for a rxz disc setup

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                      • #12
                        This is a post in the two stoke owner ship thread i have changed it according to the changes made in the bike recently may be this would give you an idea
                        Mods done

                        Some desi Sh#ty alloys(but they look good) - RS. 3500. (they may go soon)

                        Electricals changed from 6 Volt to 12 Volt - almost Rs. 4000

                        RDD cdi- RS. 2200 (i think its worth it)

                        Pulsar analogue Speedo console :
                        tacho working and giving acurate readings. not sure about the speedo it self. - Rs. 1200 (meter labour extra)

                        MSR toe gear shifter: Motocross style- Rs. 900
                        would be getting fibre reed today (You may not need this i did it cause it looked good)

                        RX135 Seat - Rs. 400

                        DURO 100/90 Tubless in the rear - RS. 1600

                        This has been changed to a 3 x 18 M45 now with a honda tuffup tube

                        Mods done and taken off

                        BOX swing arms

                        TVS victor : did not feel any difference.

                        CBZ : the bike handels like a bullet on the corners. but the straight line handeling was real good.

                        but reverted it back to the originals


                        Engine rebuild
                        conversion to 135 5 speed almost 11K including the Barrel kit and a rebuild crank with a TKR rod. and the gearbox and all other stuff.

                        change wheels to 17 inch (from r15 ) (Not done yet)

                        rear and front disk brakes (would be done in a week.)

                        a repaint in original colors. (not done but would cost mo more than 4K)


                        THIS IS A OLD PIC

                        you may reffer to the above it was a 100 and now is a 135 runs amazing and has still to be painted and stuff.
                        Last edited by desideep; 04-23-2009, 12:22 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by desideep View Post
                          This is a post in the two stoke owner ship thread i have changed it according to the changes made in the bike recently may be this would give you an idea



                          you may reffer to the above it was a 100 and now is a 135 runs amazing and has still to be painted and stuff.

                          Thanks a lot
                          Things i'd like to adopt from your list

                          1. Electricals + CDI

                          2. working tacho + speedo (optional )
                          Would get the z setup if available

                          I've spotted a crashguard at a yamaha genuine store.

                          wheels will be 18" spokes
                          rubber will depend on availability.

                          Front disc - if I can get a good looking one.
                          Repaint - in the original blue

                          swing arm - I want the stock swb.
                          will go for box section only if I ever plan for a rear disc.

                          I like the way your grabrail is cut. I might do something similar.

                          AND no matter what, I'll keep the engine stock.

                          BTW, does the 5 speed gear setup go in the original RHS casing.
                          I thought the 5 speeds came with the extended oil pump cover to accommodate the 5th cog. but I think i've seen converted 5 speeds in the old casing

                          If this is possible, where can i source the gears? Are they OE or aftermarket or pulled off a junked bike?
                          I have a 135 4s too. that's why.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by torqu3e View Post
                            No point using a solid disc. Lots of brake fade.
                            Havent faced such problem till now [i have a fury disc on my RD350].. Its an original Brembo unit.. solid, heavy and big[around 285mm]with immense stopping power. but the comparison must be true. Its always better to choose a new-age set-up.. and the Fury set up is an overkill on an RX.. go for the Gladi one

                            N.B Most of the cars have solid discs
                            Jawa 250 1970
                            Rajdoot GTS 1978
                            Rajdoot 350 1986
                            RE Classic 500 2011
                            TVS Victor 2003

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Arun Cheloor View Post

                              N.B Most of the cars have solid discs
                              i think all cars come with solid discs. . . correct me if im wrong. . .
                              Last edited by Nikhil Pereira; 04-23-2009, 09:30 PM.
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjWXI8T2HUM
                              ---------------------------
                              07' Pulsar 200 DTS-i
                              99' Suzuki Shaolin
                              85' Royal Enfield Bullet 350 (Sold)
                              86' Ind-Suzuki Ax 100 (Sold)
                              03' HH Splendor

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