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  • #46
    Mahaul Garam he yaha pe :P

    Nice solo trip there

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    • #47
      half-truth is my reality,it works out good for both me and my parents,i get to enjoy my ride and they don't need to keep on worrying.
      and the question remains why do i race?
      every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

      #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
      #overkill is underrated.
      #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
      #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

      (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by alankarmisra View Post
        Oh come on. You know it as well as I do that there are plenty senior members who offer half truths and complete lies at work, at home (parents/girl friends/wives) to fullfill their desire for riding. So long as you are geared and carrying all the information and keeping SOMEONE responsible informed it shouldn't be a problem. This is NOT a mistake merely acceptance of a fact that people can't/won't/don't sometimes understand our perspective to riding and we either have a choice of causing them great grief or circumventing it - and YES I have personally tried to explain things to people but sometimes they just dont want to understand.
        Yes.. I do agree, at times we dont have a choice left if they fail to understand.. But then, its always better to attempt making them understand. All here are speaking from their experiences & the support which they do/dont have. Similarly I have my set of experiences. I have learned going through really hard times of convincing. And finally, managing to succeed. As I wouldn't have thought lying them about me going on ride for weeks.! Hence the advice...
        Alternatively, as you said, some close one is informed about our whereabouts, is equally the best thing.

        Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
        half-truth is my reality,it works out good for both me and my parents,i get to enjoy my ride and they don't need to keep on worrying.
        Agreed..!! I have a satisfaction to myself when atleast I manage to tell them the half truth, if not full This is not just catered to riding.


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        • #49
          Originally posted by rachitkohli View Post
          Yes.. I do agree, at times we dont have a choice left if they fail to understand.. But then, its always better to attempt making them understand. All here are speaking from their experiences & the support which they do/dont have. Similarly I have my set of experiences. I have learned going through really hard times of convincing. And finally, managing to succeed. As I wouldn't have thought lying them about me going on ride for weeks.! Hence the advice...
          Alternatively, as you said, some close one is informed about our whereabouts, is equally the best thing.
          Why is better to attempt to make them understand? My experience HAS been different, my attempt to make them understand led to a chain reaction that made me and them MISERABLE for years until eventually I simply stopped telling them things. And now I wish that perhaps had I never attempted to explain to begin with. The whole effort was a painful one and it caused everyone pain and anguish.

          And yes I'm sure your experience has been different. That is my WHOLE point! I'm saying let HIM decide what the best course of action for HIS specific conditions are. Maybe he KNOWS for sure that his parents will not understand, in which case he has EVERY RIGHT not to tell them and seek out alternative options (which he did though nobody gave him credit for it). We have NO RIGHT to judge him or his conditions, we have NO RIGHT to tell him he is wrong simply because he chose not to tell his parents, we have NO RIGHT to think we know better and treating him like a child on account of some of us being "elder" to him and BULLYING him into admitting he was wrong (even though he wasn't).

          I thought this platform was about understanding and acceptance of the different view points we all come from not stuffing our idealistic viewpoints down someone's throat especially when his way works equally well. He did a long solo trip - his first, he had the forsight to be fully geared, he had the good sense to keep people informed, he took great pictures and he shared it with us. Applaud him for it instead of being bullies and saying "We all make mistakes.". He didn't.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by alankarmisra View Post
            Why is better to attempt to make them understand? My experience HAS been different, my attempt to make them understand led to a chain reaction that made me and them MISERABLE for years until eventually I simply stopped telling them things. And now I wish that perhaps had I never attempted to explain to begin with. The whole effort was a painful one and it caused everyone pain and anguish.

            And yes I'm sure your experience has been different. That is my WHOLE point! I'm saying let HIM decide what the best course of action for HIS specific conditions are. Maybe he KNOWS for sure that his parents will not understand, in which case he has EVERY RIGHT not to tell them and seek out alternative options (which he did though nobody gave him credit for it). We have NO RIGHT to judge him or his conditions, we have NO RIGHT to tell him he is wrong simply because he chose not to tell his parents, we have NO RIGHT to think we know better and treating him like a child on account of some of us being "elder" to him and BULLYING him into admitting he was wrong (even though he wasn't).

            I thought this platform was about understanding and acceptance of the different view points we all come from not stuffing our idealistic viewpoints down someone's throat especially when his way works equally well. He did a long solo trip - his first, he had the forsight to be fully geared, he had the good sense to keep people informed, he took great pictures and he shared it with us. Applaud him for it instead of being bullies and saying "We all make mistakes.". He didn't.
            +1million..
            You couldn't have said it better,Bhaiya!

            @Sunny: That was a fantastic triplog, buddy. And tell you what, I'm stealing your 'bike is at the sevice centre' idea.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by alankarmisra View Post
              Maybe he KNOWS for sure that his parents will not understand, in which case he has EVERY RIGHT not to tell them and seek out alternative options (which he did though nobody gave him credit for it).
              OK. I understand.. And trying to agree.!

              Applaud him for it instead of being bullies and saying "We all make mistakes.". He didn't.
              No, I didn't bullied him like other posts & low-bred replies (if its for me).! Just shared my perspective in a coolest way and advised based on experiences.. Like we do for wearing gears, riding sanely,etc.!
              First post about the ride, was by me only.!


              Blog : Mumbai - Leh - Mumbai : 21 Days, 6500kms. Journey to Heaven..June'09
              GreatIndianRide - West India on a 110cc for over a month
              Mumbai-Leh-Mumbai - A Sequel : July'11 (Blog coming soon)

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              • #52
                ok, lot of heat here.
                Just felt like posting my experience.

                My family didn't felt it was ever right to let me have a motorcycle.
                And I second them on that, as i blasted my LML on the very first day, had a good skid on Activa. So whole of my study days went like that and well I, just waited.

                Post studies, when I got my job, got a Pulsar 180 Ug4, sold it within 14 months. currently own a R15v2.

                I used to go for small rides and kept my parents informed and well, they told me to be safe.
                When i went for my first biggy, Pune-Bangalore, my fellow rider insisted on letting my parents know, which i did, and after a bit of 'WHY's', he agreed on terms i keep him updated on regular basis.

                Then I went for the Pune-Delhi, this time I told him when I was in jaipur and he was much calm. and this day, he tells all people in my family with pride what I achieved though always making me aware of the danger involved. He was much intereseted in learning specs of R15 when I was booking it. Mother worries, but she believes that i won't do anything stupid and I try not to break her trust.

                I have friends whose parents have gone to extent of selling their bikes when they didn;t stopped touring, and much more. So, you can not always convince your family. It is a very individual thing and can not be generalized. I guess if a, god forbids, biker goes wrong, would immediate family members/relatives be ever ready to let their son go that way. I don't think so. In India, we still have a long way to go. and that is why we as a community exist, to spread awareness, but give time some time. You can not show every family some facts and let their son follow this hobby.

                Mine is a typical middle class family and I only son, touring in India is not a very safe hobby to follow, even everyday when I give life to the engine. I have no clue whether this might be my last ride and I might end up in Hospital ever after. But then, that is what life is all about.
                Ride On,
                Akshat

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by nastrofaction View Post
                  Mine is a typical middle class family and I only son, touring in India is not a very safe hobby to follow, even everyday when I give life to the engine. I have no clue whether this might be my last ride and I might end up in Hospital ever after. But then, that is what life is all about.
                  it makes me sad that in our locality biking is often regarded as low class act and death ride,so my parents keep on telling me to drive car rather than riding.
                  and the question remains why do i race?
                  every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                  #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                  #overkill is underrated.
                  #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                  #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                  (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by nastrofaction View Post
                    ok, lot of heat here.
                    Nah.. None..

                    I share somewhat similar experience as you..! Even they Love to flaunt about the rides to others
                    Yes, all have distinct ways suitable to them to achieve their feat.!


                    Blog : Mumbai - Leh - Mumbai : 21 Days, 6500kms. Journey to Heaven..June'09
                    GreatIndianRide - West India on a 110cc for over a month
                    Mumbai-Leh-Mumbai - A Sequel : July'11 (Blog coming soon)

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post
                      Read inbetween the lines,Sir.
                      Some parents are highly conservative and sternly orthodox minded. Convincing someone with a closed mindset is highly subjective. And criticizing someone on the same grounds was wrong.

                      As for your son, teaching an underage kid how to ride even if under your 'highly professional' supervision doesnt make you any less irresponsible. But what can I say, he's your son, not mine. Better for me to keep silent. Afterall,its the adage of the horse who wasnt thirsty.

                      Thank you!
                      BAH, therein lies the greater challenge, man. For me, it was, I admit, very easy. My father was in a very dangerous profession and he used to ride a Bullet (those days, THE Royal Enfield..). But my real riding started after I got married so now I had to convince my wife, which, again, was even easier because she was an adventure sports type herself.

                      I have NOT criticized any body's parents here. Hell, who am I to criticize the rider himself? A nobody as far as he is concerned. What I am attempting to do is to prevent him/them from making the mistakes that I made, though at a much earlier age - I used to ride my father's Bajaj 150 when in Class 8, drive his car in the dead of the night in Class 9 and to spice things up, get pulled by trucks on roller skates on NH3, just outside Nasik. BUT and BUT, would I like my friends or my son to do? I don't think so. See, 13 and 14 is not the age to be mature about these things so I was forgiven these transgressions but 23/24 is, isn't it?

                      And yes, I agree, teaching my son at 14 is incorrect. Actually, it is just the very beginning - what are the controls, how do they operate etc. I think I will postpone the lessons for the next 2 years before he starts getting the ideas I used to get and emulate me - for all the wrong reasons. Thanks for the rebuke, taken correctly, no offence.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                        it makes me sad that in our locality biking is often regarded as low class act and death ride,so my parents keep on telling me to drive car rather than riding.
                        True, happened with a friend, when he was willing to upgrade to duke, parents offered a car instead and now poor fellow has to continue with his Pulsar.

                        Much to blame to inexperienced drivers without gears along with rash driving causing damage to themselevs and others on street. If we need the change in mentality, we need to educate the still unaware street riding community in India.

                        My sister still says I could have gone for a Nano for that price.

                        Originally posted by rachitkohli View Post
                        Nah.. None..

                        I share somewhat similar experience as you..! Even they Love to flaunt about the rides to others
                        Yes, all have distinct ways suitable to them to achieve their feat.!
                        Second you, when there is a will, there is definitely a way.
                        Ride On,
                        Akshat

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                        • #57
                          Sunny: It was a good trip but yes, going forward, try to make your parents understand what you are doing. Most of the guys face the heat while they are young.

                          For me, biking came pretty late since I bought my bike with my money. Even when I used to ride rx, I would foot all the bills for it even though owner was my mamaji. With age comes maturity & that's when parents became more understanding. To this age (30), my mom is not very happy about my biking but I still do it. She knows that her son, does follow safety procedures & even encourages it in others.

                          And don't get dis-heartened when someone calls you STUPID in this forum.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by nastrofaction View Post
                            My sister still says I could have gone for a Nano for that price.
                            tell your sister if nano could give me knee-scraping delight i would have gone for it
                            and the question remains why do i race?
                            every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                            #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                            #overkill is underrated.
                            #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                            #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                            (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                              tell your sister if nano could give me knee-scraping delight i would have gone for it
                              . Reminds me of that ad, wherein, the guy opens his car door and steps his foot out on every stop. Few habits just don't go.
                              Ride On,
                              Akshat

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by alankarmisra View Post
                                Why is better to attempt to make them understand? My experience HAS been different, my attempt to make them understand led to a chain reaction that made me and them MISERABLE for years until eventually I simply stopped telling them things. And now I wish that perhaps had I never attempted to explain to begin with. The whole effort was a painful one and it caused everyone pain and anguish.

                                And yes I'm sure your experience has been different. That is my WHOLE point! I'm saying let HIM decide what the best course of action for HIS specific conditions are. Maybe he KNOWS for sure that his parents will not understand, in which case he has EVERY RIGHT not to tell them and seek out alternative options (which he did though nobody gave him credit for it). We have NO RIGHT to judge him or his conditions, we have NO RIGHT to tell him he is wrong simply because he chose not to tell his parents, we have NO RIGHT to think we know better and treating him like a child on account of some of us being "elder" to him and BULLYING him into admitting he was wrong (even though he wasn't).

                                I thought this platform was about understanding and acceptance of the different view points we all come from not stuffing our idealistic viewpoints down someone's throat especially when his way works equally well. He did a long solo trip - his first, he had the forsight to be fully geared, he had the good sense to keep people informed, he took great pictures and he shared it with us. Applaud him for it instead of being bullies and saying "We all make mistakes.". He didn't.
                                Hey Alankar, don't get angry, man. Relax, old boy, nobody is bullying anybody here, ok? We are all united in our pursuit of Promoting Safe Riding and Helmet Awareness Shaping motorycling as a lifestyle in India, especially on performance bikes Support bikers in India to realize their dreams and potential on two wheels
                                especially Objective No 2 and 3.

                                Alankar, there is a difference between understanding and accepting. Like, my wife did not accept my spending big money on a CBR but she UNDERSTOOD why I did it. Similarly, some parents do both, some either of the two. Where all parents are on a common platform is the concern and worry for their children (like all of us, I understood the full gravity of this only when I became a parent myself...) which is felt with the same intensity and pathos by all.

                                No, no. Biking is supposed to be a highly pleasurable experience for all involved including the parents. Why the pain and the trauma? Yes, their enjoyment is tinged with worry but they then understand and accept. And thru' the fotos of their child, they see places they have never been to and enjoy HIS/HER happiness. I think you need to be at it, coaxing, cajoling - the saam, daam, dand, bhed method. One day they will, mark my words. They are your PARENTS, not some disembodied online forum buddies who cannot feel the same personal concern that they can. Use all the charms at your disposal and then some more; they will stand you in good stead when you start wooing a woman for the long term

                                I deduce that the seniors were a bit harsh on Sunny 'cause they seemed to be placing themselves in the shoes of his parents; a very natural thing to do. But was there ever the slightest malice in their words of advice? No, how can there be malice when one is seeing thru' the eyes of one's online BIKING friend's parents, towards that said friend? All of them, including me, must have had that thought running in their minds "what if my son takes off like this without informing me, what if the unthinkable happens to him. I will never forgive MYSELF for not teaching him to trust me..."

                                Alankar, nobody is judging anybody, yaar. The Almighty judges us all in His court, on the day of reckoning. They are just honestly vocal with their feelings, that's all. After all, what he does is his prerogative and the same for the readers; opinions are like........, I am sure you have heard the saying.

                                He is still very young. People have just advised him, some softly, others a little harshly to info his parents, that's all. He himself has understood, accepted and resolved not to repeat the act. Good for him and his parents; there is relief both ways. That shows that he is learning,like all of us are, about life...

                                Should we stop this slugfest now, please. There are many better things to do on the forum. Sorry if I trod on some corns, all in good faith, no offence even hinted at.

                                Regards

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