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Jut get the right size of tube as per the Tyre.

So you're tyre will be inflated as earlier just the tune will hold the air and it will kr leak from the bend in Alloy.

You may feel a bit of handling up & down.
No effect on performance though. But its not for sure and you don't have any other alternative.
But yes don't make it permanent else you have to drag the bike like old bikes if any puncture hits.



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Good news or something similar

Went to my old trusted puncture wala with the problem and had taken the cash to get the tube.
When he saw the problem, the guy smiled. Next i know is that guy is keeping a wet towel on the rim and going at it with a hammer the size of his arm.
I was like wtf! Then he put some liquid on it and viola its done.

He wasn't ready to take any money but i somehow convinced him to take 50 rs atleast.

Ridden the bike for 100 kms since then and it hasn't leaked any pressure.

Infact did my best speed on the R15 yet. 127 kmphr!


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Good.
Now takecare of it.
Enjoy !!


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Guys, in this thread where most people are discussing tyres of performance bikes. I ask a humble question- What rear tyre for my 10 year old TVS Victor?
Spec sizes are- 3" x 18", Tube type TT
I have the following things in mind considering the above size:
1) Michelin Sirac Street - I heard its a hard compound tyre good for off-road grip but on tarmac I am still get any info yet.
2) Ceat Secura Sport - This tyre has been praised for its off-road grip again but not so sure about the Wet Onroad grip.
3) MRF Zapper C or Q (if i dont get 'C')- Read onroad grip is good especially the wet grip on road. But difficult to find as its always out of stock in Pune.

I am purely interested in On-road Wet grip only. Rest other factors are secondary.
I am getting inclined towards Ceat Sport as getting MRF is difficult and Street I am not getting pretty info.
(The other reason for being inclined towards MRF Zapper C or Ceat Secura sport is that I have yet to replace tyres on my Apache RTR 180 and these tyres on my Victor will provide a first hand experience on the grip provided by the compound of these tyres. I plan to get the softest compound tyres to get good grip but not the ones which will get punctured very easily.).

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Ok guys so this time I didnot wait for the inputs from your side. I trusted the saying - Without dying yourself you can not get heaven.
Today I reeced the market and found:
CEAT Tyres:
Ceat Gripp
Ceat Vertigo Sport
Ceat Secura

All the above tyres with tube were near about 1700 Rs or less.
Difference between GRIPP and Vertigo sport is that Gripp has Studds with greater height and more spacing between the studs.
MRF tyres:
MRF MOTO D, METEOR M,

MRF has launched a plethora of tyres under the dual purpose category and its so confusing to choose one.
MRF Meteor M costs 1850
and MRF MOTO D and METEOR costs 1750.
MICHELIN tyres:
Michelin Sirac Street

Michelin has only one model for 3 x 18 size thats the Michelin Sirac Street Tubetype.
Cost- Rs 1800 but in Pune I think it doesnot sell much so one of the dealer was ready to reduce it to 1700 rs.
Criteria used for selection:
I shortlisted the above tyre companies based on reading a lot of feedbacks, but as I had not much clear, sometimes contradicting feedback for above tyres I used my own way of coming up with the selection. I dont know whether the below mentioned ways do any justice to the real world grip levels. But the below points were used based on my experience on hard compound tyres like TVS, Contigo and to some extent Dunlop.
1) Pinching the tyre with my nails and checking for the depth of the depression and the time taken to recover.Soft or medium compound tyres have bigger depressions and takes more time to recover and the depression lasts longer.
2) Rubbing the tyre with my thumb and feeling the minute layers of rubber come out.For hard compound tyres I hardly find enough layers of rubber coming out. But this test is little bit vague as some times some known hard compound tyres also loose some layers of rubber. I think it all depends upon what the tyres are coated with at the final stage. Overall Hard compound tyres have smooth and hard surface and your thumbs slide easily over the surface.

The winner in the first test was CEAT GRIPP even better than Michelin Sirac Street. MRF was a little second as compared to the other two.
For the second test Michelin was the winner, second was MRF and third CEAT GRIPP.

I have chosen CEAT GRIPP.

Why did I choose CEAT GRIPP:
1) After the wonderful recent add of CEAT focussing on the superior Wet grip, I admit I was little bit biased.
2) Ceat gripp had the biggest height of studs and they were bending with my fingers thus giving me the feeling that the rubber was not too hard.
3) I have still not upgraded my RTR180's stock tyres and was planning for Ceat Vertigo Sport so using CEAT tyres in my Victor will give me a real first hand experience to confirm my decision.

ON-ROAD Experience of CEAT GRIPP:
As soon as my Victor was fitted with the new tyre I directly took the bike in and around Saswad Ghats (In Pune) and through some off-road slush although it was getting dark.
Following are my observations:
1) Grip on wet tarmac has increased by leaps and bounds as compared to the previous TVS Crappy tyre. I am satisfied with the grip levels and felt confident driving on-road on average speeds.
2) Dry road grip is also good and has improved over the other tyre, but need to do a more exhaustive test to come out with specific points.
3) Braking on dry road has improved substantially, the earlier tyre used to skid easily with the lightest tap on brakes.
4) Braking and grip in gravel has improved drastically, I felt quite confident on gravel.
5) Grip during off-roading is also good as the long studs edge themselves on the stones and sharp ground contours.
6) Grip in Slush,Slurry- One word excellent falls short.
7) Cornering Grip is good but very hard cornering- I wont recommend because I think the long studs bend during hard cornering giving a feeling of slight movement of the rear tyre. But I want to be specifically clear that for an average joe like me I would rarely feel this as a limitation.
8) High speed on dry tarmac - I cant comment because the Victor is too old to get to high speeds and I am an average joe so wont dare to take a bike 10 years old without disc brakes to its top speed on roads filled with villagers.
Other points:
1) I didnt choose TVS and Dunlop because read some negative reviews about the same and actually felt their hardness when tested.
2) All the above market reece was done in Hadapsar Pune, which is not known to be a good tyre market so could not get any other brands like IRC or Vee rubber.
3) One of my favourite Zapper C was not available.CEAT Vertio Sport was not available in 3x18 size.
4) I observed that now the trend in market is to bring tyres like motocross stud type gears and most people feel that a stud type tyre gives more grip on road! Inspite of the reduced contact patch people feel the stud type gives more grip on roads although for off-road grip they are correct.
5) Market changer was CEAT's adds and they were to first to bring tyres having studds (eg. CEAT Vertigo Sport).
6) Rest other manufacturers have followed like TVS,DUNLOP,MRF- recently launched MOGRIP and Meteor series.(Correct me if I am wrong.)
7) In one of the tyre shops Dunlop's van had come. Dunlop has now recently come with a nearly identical Motocross type tyre. This is a growing fad (Studd type tyres). They have gone to the extent where alternate studs have micro studs on themselves. The spacing between two studs is huge nearly like a tractor wheel lugs spacing.
8) The Dunlop Van carried away a lot of defective under warranty Dunlop tyres. The number of defective tyres sentback from a single shop were quite high. This does not create a good impression at least to me. But I have not seen the defectives for MRF and CEAT so can be wrong.

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how about Ceat ZOOM??
i used ceat vertigo on my r15 ....30000 km..the tyre was just apearing worn out but was griping gud ..but still i had to change...hard on bumps.
Now i hav got ZOOM...better on corners....handle bumps nicely...grip is also gud

Tyre change in TVS APACHE RTR HYPER EDGE

hey guys, hope you are doing well. i recently went to hunt tyres for my 1.2 year apache bike. saw many tyres like pirelli sport demon 3900 k ! MRF zapper Q , C ,Y all below 3 k. i went it for MRF zapper Q. The tyre is awesome. rides smooth, mileage is almost the same. but i have a issue sprouting up, the rear alloy wheel gets heated up. ANY IDEA WHY ITS HAPPENING?? Kindly provide your valuable inputs

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@amit_purohit20, chill mann, I'l help you out,
Considering from your main thing wanting from the tire is wet grip and you short-listed these,
1. Michellin Sirac Street: It's a great tire, so that's why it's not available everywhere, these are the tires key features,
A. Big block patter contributes to confident & stable handling in dry conditions.
B. Superb grip, efficient braking and easy handling in wet conditions.
C. Reinforced casing construction for enhanced puncture resistance.
D. High mileage in both on and off-road conditions.

2. CEAT Secura Sport: I haven't used it so can't comment much about it, I have a friend who uses this tire for this Victor and he's pretty much happier with it and yes they provide good wet grip as he says so and also I have ridden his bike and they are quite good and grippier. . .

3. MRF C or Q: This is where I can give you more suggestions. . . MRF has I have been using are the best tires to say actually and I myself am using Zapper Vyde, soft rubber tire which gives awesome grip and cornering too. Zapper Q is the best I can say has it's,
A. Excellent traction.
B. Better Cornering.
C. Better wet traction.
D. Better wear.

Choose any of these and they are good. . .

PS: If you would like to upgrade the size, go for 100/90-18 and I think that'll fit to your bike. . .

Cheers!!!

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Thanks for your help buddy, I have chosen CEAT Gripp for my Victor Rear tyre and the results are very good. Good grip in wet conditions too.And slush and off-road is where it actually shines. Infact in slush my engine died because the tyre was gripping the slush hard causing additional load on the engine. This never happened with my TVS tires as it hardly had any studds.

For Apache RTR180,
I have two plans either I will go for Vyde 120/80 x 17 or I will go for R15 rear MRF tyre.
Whats the grip levels of Vyde on wet tarmac? Is it really good? How long the tyre lasts? I know R15 tyre is very good but its Puncture prone and thats why I wanted to go ahead with Vyde so your help is required.

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Thanks for the help guys. response time is amazing

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Good selection for your Victor as my friend here who has a Victor has CEAT tires both for the front and rear. . . Now coming to RTR180, it has 110/80-17" tires, if you are having the same specs for your RTR tires, den you can go by these tires, (I am telling only in MRF)
1. MRF Meteor: Good tire with excellent on/off road application, better stability and good grip.
2. Zapper Y: Sharp cornering, good maneuverability, good traction and and wet traction.
3. Zapper Q: Excellent traction, better cornering, better wet traction and better wear (wears out little less compared to Vyde).
4. Zapper Vyde: Excellent traction, better stability and better wet traction (no better wear as it's a very soft rubber, it wears off early like somewhere 10k kms less than other zapper tires).
5. Zapper C: Excellent traction, better cornering, superior wet braking and better grip. . .

I think these information will help you choose the tire you need. . . I have put Zapper Vyde on my bike and I really enjoy it a lot riding with it. . . The only disadvantage is it is a soft rubber and may wear out fast. . . So, you can opt for Zapper Q as it is more or less equal to Vyde and has better wear, so you can opt for this. . . If you have money and are ready to spend then go for Vyde like me as the last time I did a burnout, the width of the tire reduced more than I expected , so won't try it from now on, except that it's a great tire. . . Any time tag me to your post and I will attend you. . .

Cheers!!!

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no idea/comments about that but for the tires, you made a good option choosing the Zapper Q as I personally do like it or else if you want a little more softer rubber, go for Vyde, the best and that's what I am using for my bike. . . Pirelli's no comments, but if you want a tire around 2k, then zapper are the best choice for you. . .

Cheers!!!

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cool mann, be patient not everyone gets to see your post, you either have to send requests and make friends so that they can see and tell you or you need to wait until someone sees it and answers your queries. . .

Cheers!!!

Re: Tyre change in TVS APACHE RTR HYPER EDGE

anybody from pune know any good tyre shops that deal in imported motorcycle tyres, i need tyres for my NS. 100/80-17(Front) & 130/70-17(Rear) both Pirelli Sports Demon. or something like bridgestone battlax.

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I'm selling my Pirelli Tyres.
Done 3.4k km near.
I can send u clear pic to show tyre condition.
New condition, even those threads are still there. And never did burnout or other enjoying thing because of its soft compound and price :/
Trying to sell it from long actually as my bike already have a bit of problems.

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^^ thanks for the offer bro, but i want to purchase brand new tyres.