Re: Tyres

I have been doin a lil study on tyre treatments and softners and ive read that there is a way to soften up hard compound tyres,
Quite a few go carters and dirt track users do this and even drag racers,
Drag racing puts immense pressure on tyres and soft compound tyres just rip up with the g forces also in dirt riding too hard compound tyres are a death trap in sludge and wet mud.
Now,
I have a dunlop monster 3.00/18 for my bike that I didnt use for more than 3000km because of the hard compound. I will be experimenting in this tyre and will be posting results next month since I am a little busy with college and work and family. But couldn't help sharing the idea.
Now
This is the method to soften up the tyres
Stuff you need is
- WD-40*about 200ml
- Toluene*200ml
-Alcohol or paint thinner 200ml
-Acetone 100ml
- a brush
- lots of toilet paper
- gloves
- saftey goggles
-air tight container (old engine oil can wil do fine)
- grit 80 sand paper
-large plastic bag so that the tyre can get in it
Mix them up well and let them sit for about 30 mins and the put them in a air tight can.
Rub the surface of the tyre with the sand paper and get it ito the tread knooks and crannies....
Dont rub the side wall or inner surface.
Dont put the liquid on the tyre walls or inner surface.
Put the liquid you made with the brush on the tyre treads etc.... and let it dry for 20 mins, then apply another coat again let it dry for 20 mins, apply another coat and let it dry for 20 mins, do 5 such coates,
Now, wrap the toilet paper on the tyre, and apply the mixture generously.... let all toilet paper soak it up on the tyre face.... then put the wet tyre wrapped in the toilet paper in the plastic bag and tie it and let it sit overnight or for 24 hours.
Next day open it and repeat the process.
Repeated application will soften the tyre even further but dont make it too soft
We live in pothole heven india:P


Voila a softer tyre:P
Please do this in a well ventilated area,
People with spare tvs and other old tyres can give it a try
Pretty cheap fix.

If you want to spend a little cash youcan buy tyre softner compounds online but you will have to do the same method, or you can make your own compound with the above ingredients.
Ps:- at ur own risk,.. evry1 rites this I must too. Standard policy.



divyansh....

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my p220 came with eurogrip and changed to mrf and michelin in few kms.

When pulsar owners are changing from euroslip why would u choose it?

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Brilliant brother your understanding of tyres is commendable, what i have readed about these tyre softeners is that by using xylene,tolulene and acetone you make your tyre soft but with it they also become weak, i was reading some articles of drag racer and they says, soaking of tyres do make them soft but for not very long, infact in racing all of this soaking vanishes in mere one lap, soaking tyres in kerosene also make them softer, another way is mixing one part thinner and one part diesel, using a paint roller apply this solution on tyres, let the tyres dry and repeat the process, but don't oversoak them, it cold ruin the tyre, so pls keep a watch bro.

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Yes brother
Only the tyre tread should be made soft not the walls since most tyres we use are non radial most support is provided by the tyre face and walls and walls should not be made soft. Making the treads soft will give more grip but the tyre will also loose its treads quickly.
Maybe in 7 to 8 k kms. Fortunately you wil get good grip til then
Thats the case with soft compound tyres too.
I will experiment with the tyre soon and let you know:P


divyansh....

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Hmm, all right bro waiting for your experiment result.

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I don't mean to sound a spoilsport, but please do not let acetone, turpentine and WD40 touch your tyres.
You obviously do not understand the risks here, and some other person following in your footsteps is liable to have a burst tyre or worse while riding.

Manufacturers make the tyre compound according to a certain target market, here in India, people want a harder compound (a longer lasting compound), I'm not talking about the enthusiasts who want medium or soft compounds, but the general populace who go years without changing a tyre. There are other medium and softer compounds available for those with the budget and the need.

Now, Acetone melts plastic, rubber and paint, thinner is not recommended near such surfaces and WD40 is a very slick/slippery lubricant, but it is also detrimental to rubber/silicone O Ring seals as has been mentioned elsewhere.

By using a concoction of these materials, you will degrade the tyre to such an extent that it obviously becomes soft because the rubber has been destroyed. I do not need to say anything further. Please do not risk your neck in such a manner.

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Not at all brother.....your knowledge is always appreciated.
Thank you for the warning, but I have seen so many people use these tyre softeners and even home made ones. I obviously do not whant to risk anything and I want the application to get ito the tyre treads only and I will monitor it very well. Worse case scenario the tyre treads will fall off:P and I will not rip and ride with these I just have a almost brand new tyre thats unused and I wanted to experiment instead ofthrowing it away.
Will tacre not to get hurt and will do it in controlled conditions.
So many people have used this that I cannot help myself but use it once.
I will make sure I dont soften the tyre to much and will reduce the application. But I have to try it..... I just have too, and everyone please dont try this unles I post reaults. Its just that so many people using these methods in liter class bikes and on tyres that are much softer than out tvs and dunlops
I think our tyres will be less affected by these due to the harder compound and will degrade lesser.

divyansh....

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Guys, i have to replace the rear tyre of my FZ-S, 16k kms on odo and had 5 puctures suddenly. Tyre profile is 140/60 17.

Need suggestions for few pointers mentioned below:

1) MRF REVZ-M - Stock profile. Is it still a soft compound or any improvement in the same?
2) Michelin Pilot Street Radial - 140/70 17 profile.
3) Dunlop Tuff Grip - 140/70 17 profile.

Have heard good reviews about Michelin and Dunlop tyres, the only issue i am concerned is that, the tyre is on slightly heavier side. So, does it have any detrimental effect on chain life, top speed, handling, cornering ability, bumpy ride.

Any other tyre options on the cards?

Cheerz!!

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Air has 78% nitrogen remember so top up with air will not cause that much difference

CyanogenMod 10.2.1 d2att

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If you are happy with the stock tyre stay stock. The Michelin would last a few miles lesser but even heard that they last longer from a few users. Its better than the zapper. Perfect grip. Has a curvy profile. Won't have any performance or mileage differences but you sure get a lot of grip. No idea about the dunlop tuff grif. AFAIK it looks like a dual purpose tyre

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I have already tried by filling nitrogen and didn't found any difference, so i reverted back to air.

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Mrf Revz is a very good tyre, the average mileage of the tyre is near about 18000kms or so, if you look after your tyre then you can probably stretch the life to 20000kms , but after that you have to change it, Yamaha had done quite a lot of work with mrf for this tyre.

I think my brother divyanshp is the man who can give right advice on choosing tyres other than mrf.

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Any reviews for Ralco tyre 140/70 17 profile? Costs Rs. 3600.

Cheerz!!

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Take ceat dhoom 140/70 in 3200 if you are looking for such a profile.

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Thanks for the help. There are no options in 140/60 17 profile. So, have to go for stock option or some other that are available. Any review for Ceat tyre?

Cheerz!!